[4K Review] IMALENT MS03 - 13000 lumens, World's Brightest EDC

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I removed the white plastic that was protruding from the positive button of the Imalent cells with a razor blade, and that solved both problems: the turbo red light problem and the difficulty with getting contact to power the lights were both solved. I can use the solder top cells in my other 21700 lights.  

I have tried this and I can confirm that it hasn’t worked, I still get a red light and I think you will too if you keep playing with the MS03.

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Bummer, I wanted to get this flashlight… why is Imalent so unreliable…

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Tbf, I’ve ever had an issue with IMALENT until the disappointing LD10 “keychain” light and MS03.

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I did not experience any problems with my MS03, the only thing is that you’ve gotta be careful where to place it doing current testing.
It actually does over 30A and it does get HOT!

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Flashaholics wrote:
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I removed the white plastic that was protruding from the positive button of the Imalent cells with a razor blade, and that solved both problems: the turbo red light problem and the difficulty with getting contact to power the lights were both solved. I can use the solder top cells in my other 21700 lights.  

I have tried this and I can confirm that it hasn't worked, I still get a red light and I think you will too if you keep playing with the MS03.

 

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I did not experience any problems with my MS03, the only thing is that you've gotta be careful where to place it doing current testing. It actually does over 30A and it does get HOT!

Amaretto just posted his comprehensive and valuable review in the German forum. He did not mention the red light turbo phenom.

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My MS03 also has the red light issue, not often but randomly. I haven’t tried the glue or white ring removal tip yet.

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Samsung 40T with solder blob powered up the lights, but turbo red light problem with both of my MS03 and all four of the 40T blob top cells. Clean up glue at seal between head and tube and tighten did not solve the problem. Also, I had difficulty getting the extra long Imalent cells to power up the lights, even with tightening both the head and tail by hand as tight as I could. I removed the white plastic that was protruding from the positive button of the Imalent cells with a razor blade, and that solved both problems: the turbo red light problem and the difficulty with getting contact to power the lights were both solved. I can use the solder top cells in my other 21700 lights. 

Thanks for sharing this tip… i was pretty upset on the turbo red light issue as well, also the light cant seem to ramp up to level 4 after i use Turbo.

I went out for a night walk and was met with some light rain. Used the MS03 in the rain, Pretty cool until this morning, i saw this:

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Imalent MS03
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I contacted Imalent Support, they told me to wait for a few hours to see if the moisture is still showing, if so I have to send it back for repair or replacement.
What a bummer.

Update:

Contacted Imalent, they will send a replacement for me once they received my shipment with the moisture soaked unit.
In the meantime, i will use my Lumintop FW21 pro, which is pretty rad.

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How do you unscrew the body from the head? Mine is tight.

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If people who want to solve the problem themselves, just need to take off the body, clean the glue and make it tight”

Just to make sure I can follow: Are we talking about heating up the tube and unscrewing it from the head?

Just cleaning off the glue, it doesn’t work, I still get the red light.

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Samsung 40T with solder blob powered up the lights, but turbo red light problem with both of my MS03 and all four of the 40T blob top cells. Clean up glue at seal between head and tube and tighten did not solve the problem. Also, I had difficulty getting the extra long Imalent cells to power up the lights, even with tightening both the head and tail by hand as tight as I could. I removed the white plastic that was protruding from the positive button of the Imalent cells with a razor blade, and that solved both problems: the turbo red light problem and the difficulty with getting contact to power the lights were both solved. I can use the solder top cells in my other 21700 lights. 

Thanks for sharing this tip… i was pretty upset on the turbo red light issue as well, also the light cant seem to ramp up to level 4 after i use Turbo.

I went out for a night walk and was met with some light rain. Used the MS03 in the rain, Pretty cool until this morning, i saw this:

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Imalent MS03
!

I contacted Imalent Support, they told me to wait for a few hours to see if the moisture is still showing, if so I have to send it back for repair or replacement.
What a bummer.

Update:

Contacted Imalent, they will send a replacement for me once they received my shipment with the moisture soaked unit.
In the meantime, i will use my Lumintop FW21 pro, which is pretty rad.

Will Imalent cover shipping for you?

How does the FW21 pro compare to the MS03?

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JordanZHP][quote=dmstar88 wrote:

Will Imalent cover shipping for you?

How does the FW21 pro compare to the MS03?

No, I am paying shipping on my own as i brought direct from Imalent Lights.

FW21 pro is a pretty fun torch with some cool Blinkies function. The Turbo mode is pretty usable and stable, meaning I can hit on turbo again when it step down and it will still work.
Hope this is helpful…

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How does the FW21 pro compare to the MS03?
In what ways? In many ways they are similar, and in many ways they are very different. They are in the same size, power, throw and runtime class. Single 21700, about 9000 lumens. For me, the choice of FW21 Pro or MS03 or NSX53 or TM9K is a matter of personality, that’s why I got all four, even though they are very similar in size, runtime, lumens and throw. 

The FW21 Pro is a little less floody than the MS03, with a little more throw. 

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I did not experience any problems with my MS03, the only thing is that you’ve gotta be careful where to place it doing current testing. It actually does over 30A and it does get HOT!

Amaretto just posted his comprehensive and valuable review in the German forum. He did not mention the red light turbo phenom.

https://1lumen.com/review/imalent-ms03/

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I removed the white plastic that was protruding from the positive button of the Imalent cells with a razor blade, and that solved both problems: the turbo red light problem and the difficulty with getting contact to power the lights were both solved. I can use the solder top cells in my other 21700 lights.  

I have tried this and I can confirm that it hasn't worked, I still get a red light and I think you will too if you keep playing with the MS03.

 

Please remove the battery tube from the head (if unable to unscrew by hand, cushioned tools may be needed, due to the glue) and then check to see if there is any glue or small amount of grey stuff on the annular gold contact where the tube makes contact with the head. It has to be squeaky clean, as well as all contact points. Before re-assembling the tube to the head, grease the threads and grease the inner wall of the head where the o ring needs to travel down as the tube is screwed into the head. Max hand tight is indicated, but just a small amount of additional tool tight may be needed.

 

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richbuff wrote:

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I removed the white plastic that was protruding from the positive button of the Imalent cells with a razor blade, and that solved both problems: the turbo red light problem and the difficulty with getting contact to power the lights were both solved. I can use the solder top cells in my other 21700 lights.  


I have tried this and I can confirm that it hasn’t worked, I still get a red light and I think you will too if you keep playing with the MS03.

 


Please remove the battery tube from the head (if unable to unscrew by hand, cushioned tools may be needed, due to the glue) and then check to see if there is any glue or small amount of grey stuff on the annular gold contact where the tube makes contact with the head. It has to be squeaky clean, as well as all contact points. Before re-assembling the tube to the head, grease the threads and grease the inner wall of the head where the o ring needs to travel down as the tube is screwed into the head. Max hand tight is indicated, but just a small amount of additional tool tight may be needed.


 

Did all that a while ago after IMALENT claimed it was the issue.

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Yokiamy wrote:
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Yokiamy wrote:
I did not experience any problems with my MS03, the only thing is that you’ve gotta be careful where to place it doing current testing. It actually does over 30A and it does get HOT!

Amaretto just posted his comprehensive and valuable review in the German forum. He did not mention the red light turbo phenom.

https://1lumen.com/review/imalent-ms03/

Like Charles Bridgtec, he gets commission on sales.

I’m finding a lot of “reviewers” are failing to mention universal faults lately.

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Flashaholics wrote:
Yokiamy wrote:
richbuff wrote:

Yokiamy wrote:
I did not experience any problems with my MS03, the only thing is that you’ve gotta be careful where to place it doing current testing. It actually does over 30A and it does get HOT!

Amaretto just posted his comprehensive and valuable review in the German forum. He did not mention the red light turbo phenom.

https://1lumen.com/review/imalent-ms03/

Like Charles Bridgtec, he gets commission on sales.

I’m finding a lot of “reviewers” are failing to mention universal faults lately.

I dislike charles bridgtec, he dodges all the questions about problems and it is just a puppet. I will never use one of his affiliate links.

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IMALENT were keen to send me a 2nd light after they saw my review:

The 2nd light is also faulty and also makes just a touch over 10,000 lumens like the 1st MS03.

Basically you can use Turbo for a few seconds (Occasionally not once) or if you’re lucky a couple of times then you can’t use it again (or high mode) until you break the tailcap connection.

Looks like this light will sort the good reviewers from the greedy.

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Flashaholics wrote:
IMALENT were keen to send me a 2nd light after they saw my review:

The 2nd light is also faulty and also makes just a touch over 10,000 lumens like the 1st MS03.

Basically you can use Turbo for a few seconds (Occasionally not once) or if you’re lucky a couple of times then you can’t use it again (or high mode) until you break the tailcap connection.

Looks like this light will sort the good reviewers from the greedy.

Thanks for the update, do you have the FW21 Pro? I was gonna get the MS03 but might get that one instead.

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lotrbfme wrote:
Flashaholics wrote:
IMALENT were keen to send me a 2nd light after they saw my review:

The 2nd light is also faulty and also makes just a touch over 10,000 lumens like the 1st MS03.

Basically you can use Turbo for a few seconds (Occasionally not once) or if you’re lucky a couple of times then you can’t use it again (or high mode) until you break the tailcap connection.

Looks like this light will sort the good reviewers from the greedy.

Thanks for the update, do you have the FW21 Pro? I was gonna get the MS03 but might get that one instead.

I would currently advise against the FW21 pro after seeing a post where someone melted his emitter domes and phosphor off by using turbo.

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I’ve not been asked to review a FW21 yet and I don’t personally buy LUMINTOP lights anymore due to poor build quality.

I am due to review the Astrolux EC03 soon which I believe will be brighter than advertised at turn on.
It’s been a long time since I personally had an issue with Astrolux.

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Well my ms03 functions as should.
I cam confirm the short turbo time, but mine does over 12000 Lumens, when you calculate an error of 10% this one might do 13k.
If you want it, i am willing to sell it

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The Turbo lasts 45 secs as stated and can do it a few times unless it glitches and gives the red light with Turbo/High lockout.

Yours will glitch eventually! Everyone but greedy affiliate reviewers have the issue.

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What kind of 21700 battery can i use instead this proprietary imalent 21700 battery on this MS03?

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What kind of 21700 battery can i use instead this proprietary imalent 21700 battery on this MS03?

Anything with a stupidly big magnet/solder blob on it. The light is only good for 2200 lumens so take your pick.

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Ahh, thanks. Still not decided yet, saw so many pros and cons about this MS03

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Ahh, thanks. Still not decided yet, saw so many pros and cons about this MS03

Oh lordy.

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 I think that there may be variation between samples. There are a lot of people on the German forum that have not reported any issues with the MS03. I purchased two of them, and after cleaning up the glue from in between the tube and the head, and tightening the head and the tube down very tightly, I have no issues with the factory battery. I have this issue with the very large solder blob 40T cells, but I do not have this issue with the factory batteries. 

My historical perspective: Before the R90TS was released, I was interested in Imalent high power flashlights, but I was advised to wait for Imalent to improve its QC. That happened when the R90TS and MS18 were released. I got both, and they are the Kings of Flood and Search.

 

This light is speced at 9,500 lumens by Vinh, but to my eyes, it tops the TM9K and the FW21Pro and the NSX53. My only disappointment with this exciting light is that it is factory rated at 13,000 lumens, and Vinh rated at only 9500. However, to my eyes, it is a little bit more visibly brighter than the other three that I just mentioned above.  Someone in the German forum said that unprotected cells yield another thousand lumens, but I have the red light issue with large solder blob unprotected cells.  Also, there are a few people in the international community who do report lumens close to 13,000. To my eyes, Vinhs’ rating may be 2000 lumens too low. 

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Vinh’s ratings are fine, he doesn’t use a shitty tube, his measurements are usually close to mine (as are Maukka’s) and I got approx 10000 twice at turn on.

I suspect you will get the red light sooner or later with the stock cell as I could use Turbo quite a while before the first red light.

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