Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2022 (Finally a new Eneloop, June 2022)

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Can we use them in ANY device that takes AA/AAA batteries???

Not all, there is a few low power device that requires the slightly higher voltage from unloaded alkaline.

My website with reviews of many chargers and batteries (More than 1000): https://lygte-info.dk/

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like what Chibim?

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That really depends, I personally can't remember any device in my house that can take alkaline batteries, but not rechargeable batteries. Maybe HKJ can give you some examples?

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Maybe HKJ can give you some examples?

I do not have any examples, it will typically be devices that can run months or years without battery change.

My website with reviews of many chargers and batteries (More than 1000): https://lygte-info.dk/

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I have one of those cheap fibre optic desk lamps with all the strands that won't run on eneloops.   They take 3 x AAA and have no problems with alkalines.  What is confusing is that they will run down the alkalines after hours and hours of continuous use, yet won't even turn on with fully charged eneloops.

 

What I can say is that on my Nitecore EA81 that takes 8 x AAA, the eneloops are just incredible.  With alkalines, you just use turbo briefly a couple of times and then the flashlight will only go to high thereafter.  With the eneloops, turbo seems to last amazingly long, maybe 5 or 10 times longer or more than the alkalines.  I'm really not sure why they are that good in this particular flashlight, but they are.  They may last even longer in turbo than what I am saying  as I have not charged them for a long time and it is still working.

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@klrman, I think you meant 8AA Wink 

I also heard some older digital camera's had problems with rechargeable batteries. But these days most cameras use rechargeable lithium batteries. 

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Sometimes AA and AAA look the same to me when I post late at night and my mind starts getting a little fuzzy!  Yes, 8 x AA for the EA81 

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lol so basically…if not so older then your kids then they will be fine… brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

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lohtse wrote:
lol so basically...if not so older then your kids then they will be fine... brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

That's about right! Wink

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lol so basically…if not so older then your kids then they will be fine… brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a thermostat in my condo that will trigger the low voltage icon when NiMH are used. It still works, but it does show a ‘low battery’ level.

It’s probably 13-15 years old. For that, I use regular alkaleaks mostly due to my OCD.

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lol so basically…if not so older then your kids then they will be fine… brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a thermostat in my condo that will trigger the low voltage icon when NiMH are used. It still works, but it does show a ‘low battery’ level.

It’s probably 13-15 years old. For that, I use regular alkaleaks mostly due to my OCD.

Chris

same here. Use alkilies in mine.
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The voltage of the NiMh (1.2 V) cells is lower than the alkaline (1.5 V). Some devices will not accept the lower voltage. Try them and see what happens with a particular device. And, of course, the discharge patterns are different.

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@chibiM, on my Nitecore EA81 that is running 8 x AA eneloops, after charging and using the light for a short while, I tested the battery voltage and they range from 1.424v to 1.415v.   Is that within the safe limits to run all eight batteries in one light? 

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klrman wrote:

@chibiM, on my Nitecore EA81 that is running 8 x AA eneloops, after charging and using the light for a short while, I tested the battery voltage and they range from 1.424v to 1.415v.   Is that within the safe limits to run all eight batteries in one light? 

Ideally, what you’d want to do is buy an analyzing charger that allows you to do a discharge test, or something like a ‘break-in’ function (as found on the Maha C9000) and match your closest 8 Eneloops, since that’s a lot of batteries to run in any device, let alone a high current flashlight.

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@chibiM, on my Nitecore EA81 that is running 8 x AA eneloops, after charging and using the light for a short while, I tested the battery voltage and they range from 1.424v to 1.415v.   Is that within the safe limits to run all eight batteries in one light? 

Ideally, what you'd want to do is buy an analyzing charger that allows you to do a discharge test, or something like a 'break-in' function (as found on the Maha C9000) and match your closest 8 Eneloops, since that's a lot of batteries to run in any device, let alone a high current flashlight. Chris

 

I have the MC3000 but never used it yet for my eneloops.  I have to get going on it to see if I can get a closer match.  I gave another EA81 to my brother and when I tested just the voltage on those eight batteries that were inside it, the voltage was exactly the same for all of them.

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Some of my older cameras needed the higher performing “lithium” throw away batteries, I think it was the demanding flash bulbs.

Horizon still has the Japanese version AA’s at a good price I think. $37.99 shipped on eBay for 16. Not too bad on price, about .37 cents more per battery than the last sale. I use these in many devices including my water proof Panasonic camera. https://www.ebay.com/itm/16x-Panasonic-eneloop-Rechargeable-AA-Batteries-NiMH-2000mAh-min-1900mAh-BK-3/162035038880?epid=2254437328&hash=item25ba0a7aa0:g:15EAAOSwsN9XC5rs

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klrman, I think that is fine! Not sure how much of a difference they were beforE they were used in the light, but just to be on the safe side, I would not let the light run out of batteries. Because that would cause the weakest of the bunch be much deeper discharged than the rest.. and the second round that weak battery will become even weaker, and the third round even weaker. 

So better charge them when they arent empty yet. You might see a difference in output when they get empty, and that might be a good time to recharge them.  

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The interview question and answers for the Eneloop technicians are on the website. Until I have time to put them 1 by 1 in the correct section on the website, they can be found here: https://eneloop101.com/interview-with-eneloop-technicians/

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ChibiM wrote:

The interview question and answers for the Eneloop technicians are on the website. Until I have time to put them 1 by 1 in the correct section on the website, they can be found here: https://eneloop101.com/interview-with-eneloop-technicians/


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1. I have installed a chat bot on the website.. it took me hours to put all the questions and answers in the chat, 

but I think it looks nice:

Take a look at the new chatbot Smile

https://eneloop101.com/search/

 

2. I installed heatmap software on the website, to see what people actually click on... but when I see the recording, it looks like all the numbers on my Charge page: https://eneloop101.com/charge/ are gone.. it only shows *****mAh.. So I'm curious if you guys can actually see the numbers like 1900mAh, or if you also get the ****mAh ? 

 

please let me know

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klrman, I think that is fine! Not sure how much of a difference they were beforE they were used in the light, but just to be on the safe side, I would not let the light run out of batteries. Because that would cause the weakest of the bunch be much deeper discharged than the rest.. and the second round that weak battery will become even weaker, and the third round even weaker. 

So better charge them when they arent empty yet. You might see a difference in output when they get empty, and that might be a good time to recharge them.  

 

Thanks for the info!  They were the same voltage  after I charged them the first time and were new eneloops from costco or amazon.  I usually charge them when there is no difference between turbo and high on the ea81 and will keep an eye on them.  BTW, nice chat bot on your website!

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ChibiM wrote:

2. I installed heatmap software on the website, to see what people actually click on... but when I see the recording, it looks like all the numbers on my Charge page: https://eneloop101.com/charge/ are gone.. it only shows *****mAh.. So I'm curious if you guys can actually see the numbers like 1900mAh, or if you also get the ****mAh ? 

 

Looks ok for me (W7 + Firefox, everything up to date)

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Awesome guys! 

klrman, yes, always try to be on the safe side.. Smile 

Kame Sennin, thanks.. good to know.. I don't know why the software doesnt show the numbers... thanks for checking!

 

BTW, if you guys look at the /charge/ page, you can see I changed the layout completely, instead of an extremely long page, I put all the questions in tabs.. if that is what you call it. 

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Anyone know where I can get a deal on a BQ-CC17 charger in Canada?  Looking for four of them.  So far, the only option I can see is waiting for Costco to do a black friday sale if I'm lucky where they include 8xAA and 3xAAA with the charger.

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Why exactly would you want it?

A Liitokala Li-402 would work well, and can be used via USB, which is nice for casual users.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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I've grown to like it.  It does only aa and aaa whereas the other multi chemistry chargers always seem to go bust and I want to gift the bq-cc17 to a few friends along with eneloops and an 4 x aaa lights and keep it as simple as possible for them.

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Costco is the only place I’ve found in Canada.

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Thought that may be the case, thanks.  Amazon.ca sells that charger with 4xAA for around $29 so another option possibly.  Since I want four of them, maybe the price is going to drop for black friday if I'm lucky.

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The Liitokala Li 402 has been very reliable for the 3 years that I’ve owned it.

It’s not a high power charger(max 10W total power for lithium ion cells, lower for NiMH), so it is not prone to failure like the other chargers.

Are you sure you aren’t willing to take the plunge?

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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