"Petition" to persuade Emisar (Hank Wang) to make a larger version of D18

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Go big or go home. Look no further, pure brass Haikelite MT03 is still available.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/66532

It weighs 1450 grams. That is a massive upgrade from the Emisar D18! (pun intended)
21k lumens! It can probably hold turbo for more than a minute.

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I’d buy anything from Hank

Where would we end up with 3 × 21700? Just increased runtimes?

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So I decided to buy the D18 with custom XPL HI emitter settup:

3 × 2850K
6 × 4000K
6 × 5000K
3 × 6500K

This should give ne better tint than sst20 5000K and better/higher lumen output than sst20 4000K.

If Hank comes out with a D18v2 I’m gonna be so pissed Big Smile (just kidding).

But seriously, D18v2 could have a bit beafier head with more heat dissipation options and either 3×21700 or 4×18650. That alone should make higher output possible.

Also D18v2 should have more emitter options. Like XHP 70.2 high CRI

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Dr.Phillip wrote:
…If Hank comes out with a D18v2 I’m gonna be so pissed Big Smile (just kidding).

But seriously, D18v2 could have a bit beafier head with more heat dissipation options and either 3×21700 or 4×18650. That alone should make higher output possible.

Also D18v2 should have more emitter options. Like XHP 70.2 high CRI

XHP70.2 is meaningless even at the highest offered CRI due to huge tint-shift in beam. That emitter is anything but quality light source, unless someone skilled enough dedome each one installed.

Speaking of high CRI, if someone could make a flashlight with 12, 18 (or even more, e.g. 36) pieces of E21A, that could be really something.

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adam7027 wrote:
XHP70.2 is meaningless even at the highest offered CRI due to huge tint-shift in beam.

It doesn’t seem true for the whole XHP70.2 series. zieloczek100 made a review of the EAGTAC TX3G Pro using a Cree XHP-70.2 in a small SMO reflector and the beam doesn’t look as bad as expected. It looks pretty good.

A few of his pictures :

Field shots, camera settings ISO-200, f / 2, 1s, white balance – Fluorescent H
EAGTAC TX3G Pro – TURBO

Emisar D4 – TURBO

EAGTAC TX3G Pro – TURBO

Emisar D4 – TURBO

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My FW21 Pro actually looks decent. Greenish yellow corona but apart from that it’s not too bad. I think I don’t notice it much due to the floody beam. With the EC01 and SP33 it was more annoying.

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Can I add to the Petition a 1/4”-20 UNC tripod thread on any future versions of the D18.

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I love my D18 vn 18 x W2. I would love to have the next bigger thing in this department. I do not have anything against the lights that other people like that I am not excited about. It seems that some people are against the lights that I am excited about, for all of the same old reasons that have been repeated 47 trillion times.  I like maximum thrust to weight ratio. Added plus is ability to access normal modes in both pocket rockets and shoulder fired rockets.

Please count me in as petitioning Hank Wang to make a larger version of the beloved D18.

 

My current favs: Nitecore TM9K, Astrolux EC03, Imalent MS03, Lumintop FW21Pro, Nitewatch NSX53, Emisar D4V2 W2, Lumintop FW4a W2, Noctigon KR1 vn 90.2, Mateminco MT07 vn  W2, Acebeam X45, Imalent MS18, Acebeam X65, Imalent R90TS, Acebeam K75 and Astrolux MF05.

Because I like big lights, my flashlightical views lean heavily toward both the extreme bright and the extreme heft.

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2 years ago Matt Smith modded a BLF GT with a COB LED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_T-YIvWNmQ

I wonder if we will see more flashlights with a COB LED in the near future. If a decent driver was available, maybe it could be used to get more (floody) lumens and much better efficiency from a D18-sized host. Better efficiency would mean less heat and longer battery life, which could make a bigger difference than upgrading from a 14k lumen turbo to (for example) 25k lumen turbo.

I don’t actually know much about COB, maybe the technology isn’t there yet.

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adam7027 wrote:
Dr.Phillip wrote:
…If Hank comes out with a D18v2 I’m gonna be so pissed Big Smile (just kidding).

But seriously, D18v2 could have a bit beafier head with more heat dissipation options and either 3×21700 or 4×18650. That alone should make higher output possible.

Also D18v2 should have more emitter options. Like XHP 70.2 high CRI

XHP70.2 is meaningless even at the highest offered CRI due to huge tint-shift in beam. That emitter is anything but quality light source, unless someone skilled enough dedome each one installed.

Speaking of high CRI, if someone could make a flashlight with 12, 18 (or even more, e.g. 36) pieces of E21A, that could be really something.


Email Hank, he will build you a 16 emitter beast like this (E21A): https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/i0u34v/custom_brass_d4v2_mu...
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lightdecay wrote:
2 years ago Matt Smith modded a BLF GT with a COB LED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_T-YIvWNmQ

I wonder if we will see more flashlights with a COB LED in the near future. If a decent driver was available, maybe it could be used to get more (floody) lumens and much better efficiency from a D18-sized host. Better efficiency would mean less heat and longer battery life, which could make a bigger difference than upgrading from a 14k lumen turbo to (for example) 25k lumen turbo.

It really doesn’t have an efficiency or price advantage over many small LEDs.

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I’ll take a d18, but filled with 18 SBT90.2 emitters. Make it as large as it needs to be,
to support as many 21700 batteries that is needed. Heck, I want it full copper too.

Hank, take my money.

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Why only 18 SBT-90.2 emitters? At $35 each these emitters would cost $630, but they wouldn’t even be able to put out 100k lumens.

A flashlight this expensive is not worth it, if it is not brighter than Imalent MS18 (100k lumens).

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lightdecay wrote:
Why only 18 SBT-90.2 emitters? At $35 each these emitters would cost $630, but they wouldn’t even be able to put out 100k lumens.

A flashlight this expensive is not worth it, if it is not brighter than Imalent MS18 (100k lumens).

But wouldn’t it throw almost twice as far? even though it may ONLY be 75,000 lumens, couldn’t it potentially throw 2200 meters? reflector dependent of course. I mean come one… you wouldn’t pay $2,000 for a 18 x sbt90.2 , 6 × 21700, full copper, 26lb thrower? I would, if Hank made it! And if my wife never found out though it’d be hard to hide.

ps- I got my ridiculous theoretical math from comparing the gt4 to the gt94, and the ms18 to this new Noctigon Coppertron (thats a trademark name i just made up).

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bmengineer wrote:
You’re listing way too many features that are typically not compatible.
Good flood, and good through.
4-8 cells and USB charging.
More overpowered and a good emergency light.

I think if you want to create an interest list, you should narrow down what you want to capture interest in, and I think Hank might not be the best bet since he typically doesn’t make items just because people asked for them.


You can have good flood and good throw by including 10 or 15 and 45 deg TIR, but the throw will never be super amazing. Likewise, you could have an aspheric lens option, granted the lens would extrude.

I would be interested in a crazy light if it uses SUNLIKE-tier emitters and buck/boost, or at worst, E21A emitters. I don’t like the green halo from E21A and a TIR won’t correct that, so 219b would technically be a step up

I miss the lights with handles lol, I used to use one in the offhand while shooting coons with my rifle, despite the weight the handle actually easier to hold than a light

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k (all copper, in mail)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Awaiting release of E07x Pro, only if 219b still stocked.

Emisar D4 (v1) SST20 4000k frosted

 

Varmint removal (throw):

Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

Convoy S2+ SST20 4000k (3200ma)

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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Artiet59 wrote:
lightdecay wrote:
Why only 18 SBT-90.2 emitters? At $35 each these emitters would cost $630, but they wouldn’t even be able to put out 100k lumens.

A flashlight this expensive is not worth it, if it is not brighter than Imalent MS18 (100k lumens).

But wouldn’t it throw almost twice as far? even though it may ONLY be 75,000 lumens, couldn’t it potentially throw 2200 meters? reflector dependent of course. I mean come one… you wouldn’t pay $2,000 for a 18 x sbt90.2 , 6 × 21700, full copper, 26lb thrower? I would, if Hank made it! And if my wife never found out though it’d be hard to hide.

ps- I got my ridiculous theoretical math from comparing the gt4 to the gt94, and the ms18 to this new Noctigon Coppertron (thats a trademark name i just made up).


in the 600+ price range you just as well ask Silent Thunder to custom for you, probably won’t have a metal body though

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k (all copper, in mail)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Awaiting release of E07x Pro, only if 219b still stocked.

Emisar D4 (v1) SST20 4000k frosted

 

Varmint removal (throw):

Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

Convoy S2+ SST20 4000k (3200ma)

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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Jeeze how did I not see this thread before… I have three 9.3’s, two K1’s, a D18, KR4, some D4SV2’s

I love the idea of a massively powerful Hank light. I blew $600 on my Imalent MS18 so I’d happily spend that much for something like this

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