What type of light would you like the next BLF Special Edition to be? As in developed by us over a year or so from scratch.... like it used to be

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What type of light would you like the next BLF Special Edition to be? As in developed by us over a year or so from scratch.... like it used to be
Multi Emitter - Short Range / Pocket Rocket
8% (17 votes)
Multi Emitter - Long range (thrower)
8% (16 votes)
Single Emitter - Short range / Pocket Rocket
9% (19 votes)
Single Emitter- Long range (thrower)
11% (23 votes)
Multi Emitter - Mixed colours / tints / types of led
14% (30 votes)
Multi Headed - able to swap to several configs of head using same body
13% (27 votes)
Keychain / Pen sized type - stumpy little powerhouse
14% (30 votes)
Head Torch of some description
23% (49 votes)
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This is all theoretical of course…. but if there were one. Wink Silly
Haven’t seen much in the way of ‘real’ BLF special editions of late, at least not in the sense / number they were when I first joined. Back then there always seemed to be one on the go so to speak. Kinda miss it, but I know it’s hard work and a tonne of hassle.
Just wondered what you guys would fancy should anyone take up the challenge again…….
I tried to sum up groups as well as I could without having a million choices! there are certainly other types. I know a head torch was being talked about at some point. I have enough throwers I don’t use, and i do love a multi emitter light. I’d like a 21700 pocket rocket with aux leds/ usb charging.

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A revamped FW4A would be good, like the next version? If that is possible. With charging unit inside or wireless charging, built-in AUX leds.

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I would like to see a flooder with good amount of cooling mass to get a nice sustainable wall of light. Mainly because I’m looking one and nothing on the market really ticks all the boxes.

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2A wrote:
A revamped FW4A would be good, like the next version? If that is possible. With charging unit inside or wireless charging, built-in AUX leds.

I agree with that, but I’d like to step up to 21700 if poss, I like a chunky monkey!
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Yes whatever it is, it should use 21700’s.

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Disappointing that none of the options include a balanced, versatile beam. Just pocket rocket or thrower. Really says a lot about how much this forum values actual utility of a light.

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I try my best to encourage manufacturers finally building (more) dual e-switch lights. While Andúril is unfortunately not (yet) compatible with two e-switches, I still think this will mean a major breakthrough in UI experience. Fenix uses this concept already but they still pursue a rather classic interface and light design. Especially, when we start to talk about multiemitter lights with different tints, different emitters, different mode groups, a second switch will be advantageous in many ways. I hope nobody minds if I use my "WK30S" example again, see illustration below.

 

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That being said Anduril does support e-switch + tail switch, and I’d love to see it used that way in a thrower.

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Yes, but the tail switch will only benefit from the momentary mode, if I got TK's words right. What I am trying to push is a real new UI, making use of two e-switches that can be independently programmed to carry out different functions.

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bmengineer wrote:
That being said Anduril does support e-switch + tail switch, and I’d love to see it used that way in a thrower.

Take it one step further and go dual e-switch + tail switch Smile .

I voted for multi-emitter (mixed colours). I think LP’s multi-emitter Flashlight Concept #1 will be great if that comes to life.

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bmengineer wrote:
Disappointing that none of the options include a balanced, versatile beam. Just pocket rocket or thrower. Really says a lot about how much this forum values actual utility of a light.

Yeah, honestly what I want is basically… Anduril SC64c LE (or SC64w HI). But to wait for the “Anduril 2.0”. I want it to be efficient, Buck/Boost Driver type efficient, with PID for the turbo modes.

Actually, here is what I really want, my “Dream” EDC light…

I want it to be the equivalent of the SC64w HI “CRI” 90+ CRI (like the Bob_McBob custom I have on order), Buck/Boost/PID, with Anduril 2.0.

But ALSO, I want to take the concept of the button AUX lights and repurpose it. I want the Button LEDs to be something like a quad-emitter of the high-cri AUX led on the Nitecore TIKI, to where the side button can be used as a full-flood headlamp. Maybe a quad E17 under the button?. I don’t know if that makes any sense. That way, I always have a full-flood headlamp/90 degree light, AND a throwy high cri EDC.

I may not be explaining this very clearly, but this would be, my ideal EDC. If I this could be had in different materials, such as clear-anodized aluminum, copper, brass, titanium, “natural” hard-anodized like Zebralight does (this would be my choice), etc. Then that would be awesome.

I know… dream big, right?

Edit: Actually, I would take this a step further, and also figure out how to do a boost-driver AAA size version of this, a “mini” perfect EDC, to use as my keychain light.

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Nah, I’m good.

All of my wish-list items, I already have something close to it already.

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I’d love to have a FW4A in 21700 flavor.

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I’m high-en the stakes. Want 3++ x XHP 70 and 3×18650. Or one with flat 2×18650 battery case, with 2 or 3 XHP 70 head.

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I would like to see a “re-invention” of the human powered flashlight.

Most things I see on the market are low quality, with plastic gears, plastic case, fake emitters etc.

I am wondering what would be possible with modern bearings, brushless dnyamos, good optics efficient LEDs, super-capacitors etc.

How many watts can a human produce with his hand? I don’t know.

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What type of light would you like the next BLF Special Edition to be?

 

Add the Mateminco MT07 and the Emisar D18 and divide by two. Twelve W2 emitters, two 21700 or three 18650. 12,000 lumens, optics configured for a balance between flood and throw, so as to have a beam not too narrow, and throw not too low. 

Not to brag or anything, but I'm kind of a big deal to my flashlights.

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bmengineer wrote:
Disappointing that none of the options include a balanced, versatile beam. Just pocket rocket or thrower. Really says a lot about how much this forum values actual utility of a light.

It’s just a rough poll, and having too many choices often waters it down so much the result is pointless. Generally reflectors/beams etc are thrashed out after the form factor is chosen, though I agree a balanced versatile beam is what we all want right? Wink
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I think the next BLF light should be

Whatever someone wants enough to gather support for, organize development for, get an interest list for, and successfully pitch to a manufacturer.

It’s a lot of work. I don’t think the development is going to happen based on poll results or even popularity. It’s going to happen because one person, or a small group of people, get really dedicated to a project and make it happen. Sure, it helps if something can generate a 1000+ name interest list, but it takes more than just that to happen.

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I voted for a keychain light.

I'm thinking something similar to what Rovyvon offers, but at a more budget price.

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EDIT:

I also like Multi Emitter - Short Range / Pocket Rocket because I cannot have enough of those.  ;)

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raccoon city wrote:

I voted for a keychain light.


+1

Something true EDC-able. BLF spirit in the pocket.

Let’s see … 23%. We won, poll can be closed Thumbs Up

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Single emitter, 16340, Anduril.

Anduril olight s mini / mini emisar

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  I'd like to see an angel eyes kind of light . A light that is lightweight ,hangs around your neck and knows exactly what mode you want at any and all times ...Alexa  dim the lights  !!!

 maybe a nice BLF AA driver......

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Side by side AA/14500 light with Narsil. White, red and UV emitters. No FET drivers and a simple ramping UI. I am tired of FW Andruil lights. I’m over it.

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toddcshoe wrote:
Side by side AA/14500 light with Narsil. White, red and UV emitters. No FET drivers and a simple ramping UI. I am tired of FW Andruil lights. I’m over it.

At this point I don’t think Tom E is working on Narsil anymore. It would be a bit wild to see it on a new light.

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BLF Zoomie, single cell single emitter with variable focus lens.

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leestrong wrote:
BLF Zoomie, single cell single emitter with variable focus lens.

With the Convoy Z1, that would be what the BLF A6 is to the S2.

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the sofirn q8 is a fantastic job and i love it.

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A single 21700 cell single emitter utilitarian flashlight/headlamp with simple UI that chases usable runtime and useful beam profile rather than over-the-top few-second turbos and bunch of gimicky aux lights for show.

Something usefull, not just a flashy decoration you show your friends.

But who am I to say what’s needed.

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What about a duel 21700 cell light with an optical lens that creates a massive flood beam around the outer rim of the optic while the center throws a 2000m beam down the center. 2000 to 2500lm should do it. Maybe use a single 35HI or a XHP50. The emitter could be whatever as long as it was stable in turbo mode for 5 minutes+. Can a special optic lens be made for something like this or would the cost be ridiculous. Just thinking out loud. With the L17, W30 and MC13 and others using lenses, this IMO is the next stage of super throwers but with power behind it in a much smaller platform.

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RapidLux wrote:
I’m high-en the stakes. Want 3++ x XHP 70 and 3×18650. Or one with flat 2×18650 battery case, with 2 or 3 XHP 70 head.

I also really hope that manufacturers will release something similar.
Sloppy sketch:

Option 2*14500 can also be interesting

Sorry for my poor english.

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