What type of light would you like the next BLF Special Edition to be? As in developed by us over a year or so from scratch.... like it used to be

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this might be a duplicate posting….

id like to see a:

ultra high brightness 50000 lumens, have an oscillating phase shifting variable frequency pulsed output mode.

It must be handheld and waterproof.

This is well within the capabilities of this community.

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Just voted for a head torch. Every once in a while I go jogging with a flashlight attached to my head with a head strap. I often use a zoomie, but I find the beam profile of a Convoy S2+, S21A or similar quite useable. Some throw is needed, but nothing excessive. Color rendering is super important, in my opinion.

I would love to see a head torch built with a sunlight spectrum led. Take a look Sunlight spectrum leds @ Guangzhou Juhong Optoelectronics Co., Ltd., for example. I understand these are COB leds with very high Vf and low intensity, but these are minor issues in a head lamp (imho). Wheight doesn't frightens me (my usual setup is nearly 190g already and I find it comfortable), and I think it would be easy to use one of those sunlight spectrum COB leds (maybe with tint to choose from to the consumer's preference), combine it with an efficient boost converter driver with nice software and… voilà! A bestseller head torch.

Optics would need to be carefully chosen for it to deliver the right amount of throw for night jogging or even bicycle riding. Maybe dual emitter with two different reflectors, or daring short focus travel aspheric setup with precollimator. 

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Id like to help design a head lamp. Lumintop made one that was very close to what I want- the HL3A- but it could be better. I am starting to think theyve discontinued it as the links to the light are now broken on both lumintop’s website and Neal’s.

I agree with some of what he said ^^. Dual led- one part has interchangable optics, the other is possibly a mule with a cob led. Both hi CRI or at least very easy on the eyes.

This will be a very compact and lightweight unit for what it is. I have much of the design of the body already worked out, just would ned to wait for the final custom driver dimensions.

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Barkuti wrote:
Wheight doesn’t frightens me (my usual setup is nearly 190g already and I find it comfortable), and I think it would be easy to use one of those sunlight spectrum COB leds (maybe with tint to choose from to the consumer’s preference), combine it with an efficient boost converter driver with nice software and… voilà! A bestseller head torch.

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I support the idea of HCRI in a headlamp. Hate to step on fire bugs and other insects. But it would take big lumens to work.

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I also like the sound of a BLF headlamp/right angle light.

Something like 4x E21A with a efficient buck driver and TIR.

If it ran Anduril 2 it would be even better.

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3 x SST-40 1000 meters thrower, 5000k, 3×18650 and usb-c charger.

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3 x SST-40 1000 meters thrower, 5000k, 3×18650 and usb-c charger.

You stole the words right out of my mouth… couldn’t agree more (despite my previous post). This sounds like my HK04, bit with a better/deeper/wider(?) lense! Probably one of my favorite lights!

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I really thought anduril 2 was going to be the bees knees, but it kinda took a turn away from my ideal U/I.

I think a blf headlamp should have its own brand new U/I that is not a real similar copy of anduril, and it needs a different name. As a headlamp interface it needs to be simpler to use, and ANYONE including my mom should be able to figure it out. It needs to be easier to lock and unlock.

I dont need the option for strobe or blinkies on my headlamp. I just need instant unlock and up/down. Any options to change stuff are limited and well hidden.

I do have U/I in mind and will post it when I get time.

Efficient driver would be great. I like loneocean’s new super efficient driver. A quad is going in the wrong direction for a headlight I think, because it makes the head get too fat. For when a headlamp is not being worn on the head, pocket carrying a quad is too bulky. Even a triple could be slimmed down by being only 2 emitters with optics side by side. You could theoretically have a light body and head that is barely bigger than the battery itself if you positioned the emitters with the idea of keeping things skinny. Keep in mind this is a clean slate light and we can do whatever we want.

Im not sure that 2800+ lumens are needed, but the option to have some decent throw, along with the option to have a floody beam in the same light appeals to me. Sometimes when I’m riding I need throw, and when working I need flood.

Tater Tot wrote:
I also like the sound of a BLF headlamp/right angle light.

Something like 4x E21A with a efficient buck driver and TIR.

I dont have machine tools at my disposal any more infortunately but can rough out a hand made prototype for testing and collaberating on ideas. Maybe I’ll enter it in the old lumens scratch mad contest. Id need lots of help with sourcing components though so I dunno if that would be smart.

If it ran Anduril 2 it would be even better.

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How about a light the size of an MF01S with 18 SST70s and tint shifting? A 30000lm popcan light would be nice. Currently we only have the X80-GT which is expensive.

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Most high quality flashlight categories are available for somewhat easy purchase.

Except the supreme head torch which only BLF can bring.

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RapidLux wrote:
My 2nd choice would be a Sofirn SP36 like flashlight, 3×18650, with 4xXHP 50.2, 10.000lm, usb charger and Anduril.

…with tripod mount (as in the Q8 and ROT66 II), and decent heat sinking (>1,500lm sustained).

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sofirn tried 3*21700 prototype which is too big, much bigger than Q8

But Q8 Pro with 4*XHP50.2(3V), SP36 Pro with 4* SST40 are tested in the lab, both have USBC charging port. I think SP36 Pro will be available soon.

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Barry0892 wrote:
sofirn tried 3*21700 prototype which is too big, much bigger than Q8

But Q8 Pro with 4*XHP50.2(3V), SP36 Pro with 4* SST40 are tested in the lab, both have USBC charging port. I think SP36 Pro will be available soon.


Do they have a tripod mount?
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stephenk wrote:

Do they have a tripod mount?

Yes, please do a tripod mount. Missing the tripod mount on the SP36 that I currently have.
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Uuh Q8 Pro and SP36 Pro sounds like a lot of lumens. I need that you know. Probably getting Q8 Pro then because that could be the flooder I been looking for.
I hope that there is lanyard hole in both and yeah tripod mount would be also good to get better carrying strap.

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I’d be very interested in a Q8 w/ XHP50.2 – added feature with USB C charging.

Tripod mount – can screw an eye attachment for lanyard.

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And finally add the LANYARD HOLE!!!

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Barry0892 wrote:
But Q8 Pro with 4*XHP50.2(3V) […] are tested in the lab […]

Interested.

Barry, it has been quite some time since 3V 5000K XHP50.2 were available. Do you think there’s still a chance to get them?

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Disappointing that none of the options include a balanced, versatile beam. Just pocket rocket or thrower. Really says a lot about how much this forum values actual utility of a light.

Yeah, honestly what I want is basically… Anduril SC64c LE (or SC64w HI). But to wait for the “Anduril 2.0”. I want it to be efficient, Buck/Boost Driver type efficient, with PID for the turbo modes.

Actually, here is what I really want, my “Dream” EDC light…

I want it to be the equivalent of the SC64w HI “CRI” 90+ CRI (like the Bob_McBob custom I have on order), Buck/Boost/PID, with Anduril 2.0.

But ALSO, I want to take the concept of the button AUX lights and repurpose it. I want the Button LEDs to be something like a quad-emitter of the high-cri AUX led on the Nitecore TIKI, to where the side button can be used as a full-flood headlamp. Maybe a quad E17 under the button?. I don’t know if that makes any sense. That way, I always have a full-flood headlamp/90 degree light, AND a throwy high cri EDC.

I may not be explaining this very clearly, but this would be, my ideal EDC. If I this could be had in different materials, such as clear-anodized aluminum, copper, brass, titanium, “natural” hard-anodized like Zebralight does (this would be my choice), etc. Then that would be awesome.

I know… dream big, right?

Edit: Actually, I would take this a step further, and also figure out how to do a boost-driver AAA size version of this, a “mini” perfect EDC, to use as my keychain light.

^ I am all for this! Anduril SC64c LE

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varbos wrote:
I would like to see a “re-invention” of the human powered flashlight.

Most things I see on the market are low quality, with plastic gears, plastic case, fake emitters etc.

I am wondering what would be possible with modern bearings, brushless dnyamos, good optics efficient LEDs, super-capacitors etc.

How many watts can a human produce with his hand? I don’t know.

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I would like to see something like this as well.
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OK, Here it is, lol. What about a torch that can sustain its highest setting for hours and not just minutes at best. A max of 600 to 800lm with enough mass for cooling and powered by three 21700 cells. Use the Anduril UI and maybe a TIR for both flood and decent throw. instead of overdriving an emitter maximize it for longevity, 600 to 800lm in the right body should be able to run without overheating for hours or until LVP kicks in. I think we have enough super duper I can blind you from a mile away and light up an entire county at the same time flashlights lol. It’s not always about power, I guess what I am trying to say is more battery and less lumens. I want a long hauler Big Smile Low horsepower lots of torque and tons of fuel Big Smile

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Majoroverkill wrote:
OK, Here it is, lol. What about a torch that can sustain its highest setting for hours and not just minutes at best. A max of 600 to 800lm with enough mass for cooling and powered by three 21700 cells. Use the Anduril UI and maybe a TIR for both flood and decent throw. instead of overdriving an emitter maximize it for longevity, 600 to 800lm in the right body should be able to run without overheating for hours or until LVP kicks in. I think we have enough super duper I can blind you from a mile away and light up an entire county at the same time flashlights lol. It’s not always about power, I guess what I am trying to say is more battery and less lumens. I want a long hauler Big Smile Low horsepower lots of torque and tons of fuel Big Smile

Personally I think pop can lights should be able to sustain at least 1500lm. It’s a shame that quite a few don’t – such as the ROT66 GenII.

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stephenk wrote:
Majoroverkill wrote:
OK, Here it is, lol. What about a torch that can sustain its highest setting for hours and not just minutes at best. A max of 600 to 800lm with enough mass for cooling and powered by three 21700 cells. Use the Anduril UI and maybe a TIR for both flood and decent throw. instead of overdriving an emitter maximize it for longevity, 600 to 800lm in the right body should be able to run without overheating for hours or until LVP kicks in. I think we have enough super duper I can blind you from a mile away and light up an entire county at the same time flashlights lol. It’s not always about power, I guess what I am trying to say is more battery and less lumens. I want a long hauler Big Smile Low horsepower lots of torque and tons of fuel Big Smile

Personally I think pop can lights should be able to sustain at least 1500lm. It’s a shame that quite a few don’t – such as the ROT66 GenII.

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stephenk wrote:
Majoroverkill wrote:
OK, Here it is, lol. What about a torch that can sustain its highest setting for hours and not just minutes at best. A max of 600 to 800lm with enough mass for cooling and powered by three 21700 cells. Use the Anduril UI and maybe a TIR for both flood and decent throw. instead of overdriving an emitter maximize it for longevity, 600 to 800lm in the right body should be able to run without overheating for hours or until LVP kicks in. I think we have enough super duper I can blind you from a mile away and light up an entire county at the same time flashlights lol. It’s not always about power, I guess what I am trying to say is more battery and less lumens. I want a long hauler Big Smile Low horsepower lots of torque and tons of fuel Big Smile

Personally I think pop can lights should be able to sustain at least 1500lm. It’s a shame that quite a few don’t – such as the ROT66 GenII.

I love this about the Q8. I run it well above half way for extended periods. It’s a comfortable hand warmer on cold nights.

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Barry0892 wrote:
… Q8 Pro with 4*XHP50.2(3V)…

WOW!!!

I am interested!!!

I am also interested in spare Q8 MCPCB with 5050 footprint.

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Hugh Johnson wrote:
stephenk wrote:
Majoroverkill wrote:
OK, Here it is, lol. What about a torch that can sustain its highest setting for hours and not just minutes at best. A max of 600 to 800lm with enough mass for cooling and powered by three 21700 cells. Use the Anduril UI and maybe a TIR for both flood and decent throw. instead of overdriving an emitter maximize it for longevity, 600 to 800lm in the right body should be able to run without overheating for hours or until LVP kicks in. I think we have enough super duper I can blind you from a mile away and light up an entire county at the same time flashlights lol. It’s not always about power, I guess what I am trying to say is more battery and less lumens. I want a long hauler Big Smile Low horsepower lots of torque and tons of fuel Big Smile

Personally I think pop can lights should be able to sustain at least 1500lm. It’s a shame that quite a few don’t – such as the ROT66 GenII.

I love this about the Q8. I run it well above half way for extended periods. It’s a comfortable hand warmer on cold nights.

The original BLF Q8 was a fantastic light – tripod mount, good heat handling, good neutral tint,compatible diffuser, and Narsil UI allowing ramping or choice of 12 stepped modes.
Everything since has been a step backwards.

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stephenk wrote:
The original BLF Q8 was a fantastic light – tripod mount, good heat handling, good neutral tint, and Narsil UI allowing ramping or choice of 12 stepped modes.

Everything since has been a step backwards.

Yeh. All it needed was charging and it would’ve been ideal. Needing to break out a 4-bay charger each time, then having to screw with the dinky O-ring that did what it could to try to escape every time it needed to be opened’n‘closed, was the biggest pain in the ass.

That inconvenience is why I switched to a DC7 as my go-to big donk. Cooler and throwier vs warmer and floodier as I like, and a dumbed-down UI vs Narsim, yet being able to charge all 4 cells in situ is what wins out.

And I get the feeling any “Q8 Pro” will still have the cooler/throwier setup vs the original, and probably an overloaded UI.

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varbos wrote:
I would like to see a “re-invention” of the human powered flashlight.

Most things I see on the market are low quality, with plastic gears, plastic case, fake emitters etc.

I am wondering what would be possible with modern bearings, brushless dnyamos, good optics efficient LEDs, super-capacitors etc.

How many watts can a human produce with his hand? I don’t know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6GsRQdy6xQ

I would love something like that.

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Powerful right angle headlamp like the size of the fw3a
I’m in for 5

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stephenk wrote:
The original BLF Q8 was a fantastic light – tripod mount, good heat handling, good neutral tint, and Narsil UI allowing ramping or choice of 12 stepped modes.

Everything since has been a step backwards.

Yeh. All it needed was charging and it would’ve been ideal. Needing to break out a 4-bay charger each time, then having to screw with the dinky O-ring that did what it could to try to escape every time it needed to be opened’n‘closed, was the biggest pain in the ass.

That inconvenience is why I switched to a DC7 as my go-to big donk. Cooler and throwier vs warmer and floodier as I like, and a dumbed-down UI vs Narsim, yet being able to charge all 4 cells in situ is what wins out.

And I get the feeling any “Q8 Pro” will still have the cooler/throwier setup vs the original, and probably an overloaded UI.

I prefer to monitor my batteries, so 4-bay chargers all the way, but no issues with lights with USB charging even if I don’t use it.
The Convoy 4×18 has a nice simple UI, good heat handling, and USB charging, but sadly lacks a tripod thread.

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