Which one? Leatherman squirt or Gerber dime.

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Which one? Leatherman squirt or Gerber dime.

I need a tiny multi tool for my pocket pouch. It needs to be tough because it will sometimes be used in sandy, humid places around saltwater.
Does not have to be leatherman or gerber; but has to be small to fit in with a lumintop tool 2.0, a bic mini, chapstick, and nail clippers, has to have pliers.
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Leatherman is a much better choice for the quality and warranty. Their service is top notch and each tool has a 25 years warranty. Gerber feels cheap compared to Leatherman.

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I agree and I’m an old USAGerber man. Leatherman is the choice

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Gerber was fantastic when they used to do all their stuff in Portland. AFAIK, everything is now made in China and you can feel it.

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I'm actually looking for another multitool. I got the one below from Ali. Its only $15 but then again, can't compare to the Leatherman's lol. I mean the darn thing is only 15 bucks!innocent

 

 

 

Thinking about getting the Leatherman Sidekick full size though...$60 USD

 

or the Leatherman Skeletool CX-7 pocket-size one...$80USD

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If your budget is tight, I’ve read good reviews on this one:

http://en.nextool.cn/index.php?g=&m=article&a=index&id=36&cid=3

I’ve seen it around 20$ on Banggood

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I have a Leatherman Squirt PS4 for around 5 years now and I am happy with it! It will not be the pliers you want for a thick thing or for heavy works, but it is quite reliable for what it is needed! I love the scissors and the blade too!
Major con is that to use the “side tools”, you cannot be using the pliers or vice versa!

I carry it in a Arc Bolder wallet, along with a LAMY Pico pen and Olight i3T EOS!

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derfyled wrote:
If your budget is tight, I’ve read good reviews on this one:

http://en.nextool.cn/index.php?g=&m=article&a=index&id=36&cid=3

I’ve seen it around 20$ on Banggood


Yep, use it often. Can’t compare to Leatherman et al. since this is my first and only MT. The only problem it had was a dull blade. Easy to fix. Saw and blade have liner locks, which is great.

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I also have a Leatherman Squirt PS4.

It's expensive, but I don't think there's any worthwhile competition for a multitool of that size (except for other Leatherman multitools.)

If you want something bigger, some of the Nextool multitools are very nice for the price.

(I own two different Nextool multitools.)

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I’ve had the Dime, Travel Dime, and PS4 Squirt. There really isn’t much competition in this size category. I really wish that would change because this is such an easy size for carry. It can go on a key ring, in a fifth pocket, and most of the places people previously carried a Bic lighter. While the small size can be limiting, the sheer amount of utility packed into the space of these tiny tools is incredible.

The pliers on both multi-tools are decent. There are things to like about the Dime but ultimately, the Squirt is a better-built tool. The main place the Squirt falls flat is the bottle opener. If you regularly need a bottle opener and don’t want to carry a separate cap lifter then the Dime is a good choice. The Dime’s bottle opener can be a joy to use. An important limiting factor is its orientation relative to the ring attachment. (It can be awkward if you keep you plan to put it on a key ring.) The other tools on the Dime are so-so. The build quality isn’t great. The knife is pretty shabby, which is a shame because the shape is nice.

I really wish someone would make a better pliers-based multi-tool in this size class. Right now, my EDC includes a dedicated pocket knife, a small titanium cap lifter, and a Squirt.

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I have Leatherman Wingman which is kinda basic multitool. If I would buy one right now I would probably get that Skeletool because its lighter, it has carabiner, bit driver and not too much unnecessary gimmicks. I havent really needed any other functions than pliers, blade and phillips head in that order probably too.

If I had to choose between Squirt and Dime well maybe Squirt because its a bit lighter I think, but in that size maybe Leatherman Style even though you would have to choose between blade or pliers, but carrying also blade with that aint really a problem. Again same reasons, lighter and only “necessary” tools on it.

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Nextool actually has a mini version of the flagship pro if you want bigger scissors.

Not mine. grabbed from google. Probably from this video

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That Nextool mini looks pretty good, but I was hoping for it to be cheaper...

https://www.banggood.com/NEXTOOL-10-in-1-Mini-Multi-Functional-Plier-Folding-EDC-Hand-Tool-Set-of-Tools-Knife-Screwdriver-for-Outdoor-From-Xiaomi-Youpin-p-1710846.html?cur_warehouse=CN

 

EDIT1:

I take that back.

The Nextool mini is almost $20 with shipping, and the Leatherman PS4 is $40 on Amazon.com

I had forgotten how much the Leatherman PS4 usually sells for, though it's probably cheaper on eBay.

So the Nextool mini is a good deal right now, especially if you want nicer scissors in a small multitool.

 

EDIT2:

The Leatherman PS4 is also $40 on eBay brand new.

That's crazy expensive for such a small tool.

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I have both. The Leatherman is worth the extra $. Everytime I get pinched by the Gerbers POS pliers or they slide sideways when I’ve got something clamped down, I wish I’d never bought them. Why did it and why do I still put up with them or take them instead of the Leatherman? Because it would be less painful to lose them.

I know, I know. [shakes head]

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I have both the Squirt ES4 and the Dime.

As mentioned, the dime is good IF your tasks are more often
opening bottles than cutting.
I much prefer the Squirt ES4 over the PS4, because I find the PS4 pliers
to be too flimsy for most tasks. (Wish list would be to have forceps style locking pliers to hold small items)
The ES4 wire strippers are IMHO, actually quite good for their diminutive size.

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The small leathermans suck at opening bottles but are otherwise better quality. I carried the Micra for a while, the larger scissors were handy. The lack of pliers was annoying though and I EDC a pocket knife so the Micra is back on the shelf for now.

Something small with decent pliers, bottle opener, pry and drivers would be ideal. Maybe I’ll try the nextool.

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Leatherman tools are tough and well made with a great warranty. Gerber use to be good but not anymore.

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i use the tweezers and scissors on the leatherman micra quite a bit
not so much the blade or screwdrivers though

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The ES4 performs its functions as long as you don’t overtax its limitations.

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wle wrote:
i use the tweezers and scissors on the leatherman micra quite a bit
not so much the blade or screwdrivers though

wle


Those scissors are the sweetest. I use then regularly on tender new growth on bonsai
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raccoon city wrote:

That Nextool mini looks pretty good, but I was hoping for it to be cheaper…


https://www.banggood.com/NEXTOOL-10-in-1-Mini-Multi-Functional-Plier-Folding-EDC-Hand-Tool-Set-of-Tools-Knife-Screwdriver-for-Outdoor-From-Xiaomi-Youpin-p-1710846.html?cur_warehouse=CN

So I bought the Nextool 10-in-1. It broke the second time I opened it. I didn’t even have a chance to use it. The little stop for the pliers handle just snapped off. Now the handle folds out freely and can’t apply lever action to the pliers. Crying

Looking closely, there was a little metal tab at the back of the pliers handle. That little tab was supposed to engage a little slot at the base of the pliers. The tab was long because it pulls double duty, also acting as a spring against the back of the pliers as they rotate. (That is what makes the scissors and pliers “snap” into place as they are fully opened.) I’m guessing that it was just a little bit out of spec and the tab missed the slot, causing it to simply ride up over the lip of the slot. This applied lever action to the tab, which is apparently not very flexible. Simply swinging the handle open to deploy the pliers was sufficient to snap off the tab without resistance.

This appears to be a design flaw and that’s a shame. I let myself get excited about this one. Now I guess we’ll see if banggood’s customer service is as good as AliExpress…

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Wow, that's a shame.

It has good reviews on Banggood, so I'm thinking you just got a dud.

If Banggood gives you too much trouble, a PayPal dispute is in order.

And if that doesn't work, if you used a credit card, you might have to rely on that.

Or at least that's what I would do.

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That sucks. I hate when something I was looking forward to turns out to be a disappointment.

I have owned and used a bunch of multitools and the two brands to get if you really want to use them are Leatherman and Victorinox. Some of the other brands are OK in someways but have tools and features that are not that great. Even Leatherman’s Wingman is kinda disappointing; the priers are great (not counting the wire cutters) and the knife is good but most everything else seems cheap – especially the scissors which don’t work well at all.

Keep in mind that multitools are only suited for light to moderate duty tasks – try to use them for real heavy duty use/abuse and they can and will break.

I had a Micra that carried for many years and used it for all sorts of things (even picked a lock on a buddy’s old work truck with the flat Philips after he locked the keys in it) – great little multitool! Some how I manged to break a portion of one of the handles that acts as a spring to tension the tools. I bought a new one that I reckon will last for many years just like the last one.

Bottom line is that I would rather spend a little more on a Leatherman or a Victorinox than to fool with something cheap when trying to get a job done.

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Fin17 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a multi-tool that looks like it might be good if you don't need pliers.

 
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I have the Nextool flagship pro large size and mini. The mini had a metal piece snap off, like the poster above had, the piece that keeps the pliers taut. Been waiting for a replacement from them which they finally responded to on nextorch website. It’s nice, but I have to say the Squirt PS4 is the way to go. You can find one really cheap used on ebay because TSA takes them away all the time and people buy them and resell. Very durable.

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Maybe I'll just stick with the Squirt PS4 then.

I'm not interested in a multi-tool that is going to easily break.

I don't usually buy used items, but maybe I'll make an exception if I need to replace my current Squirt PS4.

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I ended up with this:

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I haven't heard of Gerber Mini Suspension.

Looks like it isn't available on Amazon.com anymore, but there are a few customer reviews there.

https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-G30000872-Mini-Suspension-Tool/dp/B00H42RUBY

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I got it from KnifeCountry. Listed under-Gerber 3604 4 Inch Mini Suspension ES PDQ with Stainless Handle.

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I think i wrote this in another thread, My Gerber Dime has the worse scissors they are so blunt and are hard sharpen because if the size. I bought a mini victorinox for the scissors.

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Gerber dime sucks. I bought 4 on an amazon flash sale. The scissors are a joke and so is the blade. Leatherman is the way to go.

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