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raccoon city wrote:
I don’t know what’s wrong with the hard drive, but I just ordered a solid state drive to replace it.

I’m still having problems with it, and SSDs are, of course, awesome.

Don’t forget that at least with spinny-disks, you’ll know when they start circling the drain. They’ll act funny, slow down from retrying over’n‘over, make ugly noises, throw errors, etc.

With SSDs, they just up’n‘die with zero notice, like someone pulled the plug.

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Robin Dobbie wrote:
Don’t forget to clean the viruses off the motherboard. Since it’s your mother’s.

Don’t laff.

When the ‘puter center at school would toss old terminals when “upgrading”, I’d grab 1 or 2 nice ones, like ADM-11s. Problem is, they were filthy, inside and out.

I’d literally disassemble them down to the boards, harnesses, cases, etc., and soak’n‘scrub them like doing the dishes.

Ever see a CRT bobbing up’n‘down in a utility sink filled with sudsy water? And yeah, I’d take a brush (well, stiff paintbrush, actually) to boards exactly like in the pic. Keyboards, disassembled down to the keycaps, springs, you name it.

All of it thoroughly dried and reassembled, they worked perfectly!

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raccoon city wrote:

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Alright then, I don’t mean to sound like an a**hole but, if you already planned on doing what you were going to do. Why ask for help? It’s a rhetorical question really. Hope you can get what you need from you drive.


Re-read the OP and you’ll see that I was asking for a specific type of help.


Robin Dobbie was helpful, and I am still open to help, especially that type of help.

I read the OP and I comprehend fairly well for my age. sp5it came back to you almost immediately with a warning and a first step.

Hope it all works out and you can get your moms computer back up and running. I know the feeling of wanting to get things done for family. I get computers and electronics dropped off at my house weekly from family wanting free work. Smile And we do it because we love them.

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I’d grab 1 or 2 nice ones, like ADM-11s.

Those remind me of terminals I’d see at my mom’s college campus in the late 80s. Amber screens. Green screens. Giant mainframe with tape reels and all that.

There’s a guy(or several) on youtoob who advocate cleaning PCBs from mobos to GPUs with brake cleaner. I’ve never done it. Seems like a super bad idea considering what brake cleaner is made of.

The problem with water, especially tap water, is it’s more than water and it’s hard to buff dry really rough surfaces, as well as under chips and SMDs. For my own PC I usually just need to blast it with canned air. But I have periodically worked on people’s PC who smoke. I guess 99% alcohol is the best thing?

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Just for the anecdote, yes, putting a HDD in the freezer (in a plastic ziplock bag) can work in some special cases (when the HDD is overheating too quickly and starts being unresponsive). I had an HDD do that and managed to backup the data.

Now, in case of damaged sectors, not sure it would help!

A great tool to recover files is PhotoRec (and it’s Free Software)
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

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Robin Dobbie wrote:
The problem with water, especially tap water, is it’s more than water and it’s hard to buff dry really rough surfaces, as well as under chips and SMDs. For my own PC I usually just need to blast it with canned air. But I have periodically worked on people’s PC who smoke. I guess 99% alcohol is the best thing?

Tap water is actually pretty “clean” once left to air-dry. Ain’t like washing it in seawater or anything…

Even if some got trapped in little nooks’n‘crannies, heat from the beastie in operation would help evaporate what’s left.

I never worried about it, not even soaking the yoke (big open coils) from around the CRT’s neck. Washed thoroughly, rinsed thoroughly, then left to air-dry a coupla days before reassembly, there’d be very little water left to cause any mischief.

And even electrolytics were end-sealed with rubber caps, so ain’t like anything would get ruined by water.

I did so many terminals and things, that all worked without any problems after cleaning, so I was confident that it was safe.

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I spose if you took any batteries out and could be 100% sure every single cap were discharged, maybe. But even then, yeah, our water here isn’t that clean. I’d go filtered or even distilled. Or, you know, not get something wet on purpose!

I think any water left in nooks and crannies would be in the worst places to have water. These are often under chips, inside ports, you know, places with power. And metal and electricity and water means electrolysis.

I wonder if the greater distance between components helped, since components were usually larger back then.

Interesting video on drying a wet phone completely in 3 hours

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Or just take ‘em to a bafroom which has one of those Xhilarators or Xhalers or whatever.

You know, the mini jet-turbine aimed down into the garbage-pail right below. LOL

 

But we actually have, like, clean water here.

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NYC tap water is better than bottled.

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pennzy wrote:
NYC tap water is better than bottled.
Off topic buuuuttttt….. here in NC we had a family owned pizza place that made NY style pizza. Ridiculously good! However ‘“ Turk” swore the ones they sold in NYC were better. Said it was the water that made the difference.
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Well, do show her howmuch dust has accumulatedinside the case when you open it. But omit the bath with toothbrush. Some people believe what they see on the Internet.

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Off topic buuuuttttt….. here in NC we had a family owned pizza place that made NY style pizza. Ridiculously good! However ‘“ Turk” swore the ones they sold in NYC were better. Said it was the water that made the difference.

I know someone in Florida who says the same, and in fact, at least one pizzeria down there actually trucks NYC water down there to make their pizza.

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New York water and pizza are both delicious. I give credit to the tiny little helpers.

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toddcshoe wrote:

I read the OP and I comprehend fairly well for my age. sp5it came back to you almost immediately with a warning and a first step.

sp5it didn't give advice that I asked for, as you should know because you read and comprehended the OP.

And I don't have to take his advice, even though you may really really want me to.

Like I said before, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and I don't have to take any specific person's advice.

In other words, it's time to end your crusade for me to take sp5it's advice.

It's getting old, and it's not being helpful.

Plus, just because someone posts something quickly doesn't mean that they are being helpful.

Like the title of this thread states, I'm looking for computer programs that fix damaged hard drives - and that's all.

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scalpel_ninja wrote:
New York water and pizza are both delicious. I give credit to the tiny little helpers.

Well then: bon appetit.
It certainly seems to be nutricious water.
That must be a bummer for the vegans.

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Well, do show her howmuch dust has accumulatedinside the case when you open it. But omit the bath with toothbrush. Some people believe what they see on the Internet.

So what kind of brush should we use?

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But we actually have, like, clean water here.


You’re welcome. From all the upstate stewards of the watershed.
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good_news_everyone

I got my mom's computer working again.

She did lose some data (partly) because Windows Backup is a piece of junk.

Now all the computers at my house do regular backups with AOMEI Backupper Technician Plus.

I like the way backups are made with that program, and I've been using it on some of our computers for quite a while.  :BEER:

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You should know that Aomei is Chinese made, and my antivirus detected it as malware. Switched to Macrium Reflect Free for system backups, and am using ViceVersa for backing up personal files. Macrium Reflect is much more sophisticated than Aoemei.

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Take a look at SyncBack from 2BrightSparks.
This is a data backup program, not an image program.
There is a free for home users version.
I have had clients using it for many many years.
https://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html

I like to do an image, I like Paragon the free version for home users.
Then setup a Syncback schedule to keep the data file backups up to date.
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I’m also a Macrium Reflect user. I used to use paid Acronis and abandoned it.
FWIW, for ALL of them, whatever you use, it’s a VERY good idea to have a spare drive around and test an image backup once in awhile. You don’t KNOW it works until you do this. I have had failures. That would be adding insult to injury.

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You should know that Aomei is Chinese made, and my antivirus detected it as malware. Switched to Macrium Reflect Free for system backups, and am using ViceVersa for backing up personal files. Macrium Reflect is much more sophisticated than Aoemei.

I've tried Macrium Reflect (and other system backup software programs) and didn't like it.

I use FreeFileSync for backing up anything that doesn't require an image.

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Rather than looking for a program for just backing up data would you consider building a home NAS running unraid ?

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raccoon city wrote:
sp5it didn’t give advice that I asked for, as you should know because you read and comprehended the OP. And I don’t have to take his advice, even though you may really really want me to. Like I said before, there’s more than one way to skin a cat, and I don’t have to take any specific person’s advice. In other words, it’s time to end your crusade for me to take & sp5it’s advice. It’s getting old, and it’s not being helpful. Plus, just because someone posts something quickly doesn’t mean that they are being helpful. Like the title of this thread states, I’m looking for computer programs that fix damaged hard drives – and that’s all.

I don’t really care who’s advice you take. Not my hard drive, not my problem. Your constant condescending and borderline sarcastic demeanor, heck it’s not even borderline, doesn’t go unnoticed. Not just by me.

I made two comments. One backing up sp5it’s advice and then a reply to you. It would have been only one comment but, well you know, you opened it up for a dialog.

FWIW, your OP entitled, “Computer programs for fixing damaged hard drives- tech support wanted”, should have ended with you calling tech support.

Oh well, the world will still spin, the sun will still come up and a new day will be begin. Good luck to you. Good day.

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I want to thank those that were helpful in this thread for your tech support -- you know who you are.

Most people on BLF are indeed helpful, and I have to remember that fact.

In my opinion, this thread has been a great success so far, so thanks for your help.  :BEER:

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Robin Dobbie wrote:

Beer (non-alcoholic of course)

Yep, as for me, I quit drinking a long time ago, but I remember how much I used to love alcohol.

I think it's fine in moderation, but it isn't for me anymore.

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AgentSteel wrote:
Just for the anecdote, yes, putting a HDD in the freezer (in a plastic ziplock bag) can work in some special cases (when the HDD is overheating too quickly and starts being unresponsive). I had an HDD do that and managed to backup the data.

Now, in case of damaged sectors, not sure it would help!

I think it has to do with the shrinking of the metal at colder temperature, its a super precise mechanical hardware.

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raccoon city wrote:

Now all the computers at my house do regular backups with AOMEI Backupper Technician Plus.

I like the way backups are made with that program, and I've been using it on some of our computers for quite a while.  :BEER:

I quit using AOMEI Backupper, and started using Acronis True Image.

I think it's a better program for the job, and the image files are smaller (without compression), which is nice.

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