FireflyLite E12R 12*emitters 15000LM 1x21700 Flashlight

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Looking forward to it! Great project with interesting driver. Finally no AMC+FET driver!
Guys, please, why do you change such great name as FireFlies to this Firefly Lite? I deffinitely like the old one much more!
I really appreciate LH351D default choice – I would like to see not only 5000K, but also some warmer tint choices. Please don’t forget about XP-l Hi and SSt20 4000K 95 CRI among available LED choices.
Keep it up, you have my support with this project Wink

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I agree with everyone else here, keep the fireflies name.

In English the word lite means something that is made smaller or cheaper. For example a software package that is cheaper and has less options would be called lite.

Lite is not a creative spelling of light, it has a completely different and negative meaning.

That may be why everyone has the negative reaction to the name.

Fireflies is simple and beautiful.

Fireflylite creates an immediate negative reaction.

And thank you for your amazing flashlights. The E07 is my favorite flashlight and the PL47 is my favorite headlight.

Is there going to be a E07 gen2 coming? I would like to see one with a deeper optic and more throw, similar to the optic in the astrolux mf01 mini.

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richbuff wrote:

This config is right up my alley. Possible W2 emitters? Is the magnet removable? That looks like a stainless steel bezel, and those look like throw optics.


 


The fifth pic, the General Prohibition Sign: That’s me, doing that, all day long.

The magnet is built in tailcap and removable , The optcis is 30 degree-Mid-flood and a bit throw.

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I will also add a few comments from myself.
1. Keep the name FireFlies. Why do you want to change it at all? FireflyLite is terrible.
2. Make removable magnet in the tail.
3. Make pads on the driver for reflashing.
4. AUX leds on the main mcpcb may make it difficult to replace the main LEDs. A separate board more practical for us, but probably not profitable for you.
5. Use throwy optic. If possible add floody optic (like for ROT66 g2).
6. xp-l hi is better choice in such lights imho.

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Not to be negative, but what kind of runtimes might we expect with this compact but extremely powerful light at higher levels? Is there a similar sized-light that we might extrapolate from?

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Th558 wrote:
Also please change the name back to Fireflies. FireflyLite is terrible.

C’mon, it’s half the calories of regular Firefly…

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But then I have to use twice as much when baking and it throws my moisture ratios off.

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PBWilson wrote:
Not to be negative, but what kind of runtimes might we expect with this compact but extremely powerful light at higher levels? Is there a similar sized-light that we might extrapolate from?

Very compact: Check good.

Very powerful: Check good.

Runtime: Two out of three is good. Which two do I want, and therefore, which third, do I have to have?

Single 21700, somewhere around eleven thousand turn on lumens, head size and head mass is the size that it is, so I would like to add this light to my collection to be with my MS03, EC03, FW21pro, NSX53,  and TM9K. What do I get from those five lights? Very compact and extremely powerful, but run time is limited by fuel supply per power ratio, and is also limited by compactness of heat sinking/heat dissipation. I love those other five lights, so I know that I will also love this light. Choice of emitters and optics: I like some more power with a little less throw, and I also like some more power with some less throw, too. 

 

It has normal modes for normal runtime.

 

If I want eleven thousand lumens for more time, then I need a bigger light. Even more time at eleven thousand lumens? Then I need an even bigger light. I can run my MS18 at 11,000 lumens without heat or fuel concerns until the New Jerusalem descends from Heaven to Earth. But I don't. Instead, I run it at 100,000 lumens until I need to charge it and let it cool off.

 

I have lots of lights that have very steep power/time graphs. I love them all. There are also lots of lights that have one tiny emitter sitting on top of ample fuel supply, replete with very nice power/time graphs. Because they are not very powerful per compactness, I have not purchased any of them, yet.

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Notmyrealname wrote:
NOTE: All the prototype photos above do not represent the final E12R in mass-production.

Very interested! So is it actually in production? Is there a target date for release?

in production already. It is scheduled to be released at early November

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Pip wrote:
I agree with everyone else here, keep the fireflies name.

In English the word lite means something that is made smaller or cheaper. For example a software package that is cheaper and has less options would be called lite.

Lite is not a creative spelling of light, it has a completely different and negative meaning.

That may be why everyone has the negative reaction to the name.

Fireflies is simple and beautiful.

Fireflylite creates an immediate negative reaction.

And thank you for your amazing flashlights. The E07 is my favorite flashlight and the PL47 is my favorite headlight.

Is there going to be a E07 gen2 coming? I would like to see one with a deeper optic and more throw, similar to the optic in the astrolux mf01 mini.

Thanks for explaining. We did not aware that. now we have to make a deliberate decision about the new name. Facepalm

I will start a new OP for E07 Gen2

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Lightbringer wrote:
Th558 wrote:

Also please change the name back to Fireflies. FireflyLite is terrible.

C'mon, it's half the calories of regular Firefly...

tastes_great_less

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FireFlies wrote:
I will start a new OP for E07 Gen2

Wow. If E07 V2 comming out then that is my prefference. 12 emitters are overkill for my needs. 

WTB Titanium 4sevens 2xAA tube

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
I will also add a few comments from myself. 1. Keep the name FireFlies. Why do you want to change it at all? FireflyLite is terrible. 2. Make removable magnet in the tail. 3. Make pads on the driver for reflashing. 4. AUX leds on the main mcpcb may make it difficult to replace the main LEDs. A separate board more practical for us, but probably not profitable for you. 5. Use throwy optic. If possible add floody optic (like for ROT66 g2). 6. xp-l hi is better choice in such lights imho.

magnet removeable

Driver comes with reflashing pads

integratered DTP MCPCB does not save cost, it saves some assembly work though, Replacing main emitters is not complicated, no much difference with regular MCPCB.

New optics is mid-throw-flood, only 30degree available.

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Price?
Thank you

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I’m pretty sure the name changed because of some copyright issues and it wasn’t something they wanted to do.

The LH351D will be nice. I’d love to see an E21A version also.

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There’s always “LightningBugs”. Or “FireBugs”. LOL

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I don’t understand why there is little aluminium mass directly underneath that plate of LEDs (think ROT66) and all that heat sinking around an area that will hold little more then a switch.

Not an expert on thermal management but I challenge some of the smart people here to talk me thru how this design is going to manage the heat.

Or maybe that’s not the point in this case and if so apologies for raising this.

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0oklight wrote:
I don’t understand why there is little aluminium mass directly underneath that plate of LEDs (think ROT66) and all that heat sinking around an area that will hold little more then a switch.

Not an expert on thermal management but I challenge some of the smart people here to talk me thru how this design is going to manage the heat.

Or maybe that’s not the point in this case and if so apologies for raising this.

How can you tell there is little aluminum mass? The E07 had a very thick aluminum shelf under the mcpcb. It had some of the best heat sinking property for its size. I hope the shelf thickness, which is most important for heat transfer, remains thick like in the E07

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The design seems to have further reduced the mass of aluminium that could conduct heat away by adding a ‘heat sink’ groove right where there should be a large body of mass to conduct heat away. It appears to be bottlenecked at the place that most needs material.

Bonkers! Haha

Edit: Just saying I can’t recall a design that undercuts the diameter of the aluminium that houses the mcpcb quite like this.

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Let’s hope this uses Anduril 2. Anduril 1 is an enthusiast only firmware and not good for gifting to muggles.

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FireFlies wrote:
Pip wrote:
I agree with everyone else here, keep the fireflies name.

In English the word lite means something that is made smaller or cheaper. For example a software package that is cheaper and has less options would be called lite.

Lite is not a creative spelling of light, it has a completely different and negative meaning.

That may be why everyone has the negative reaction to the name.

Fireflies is simple and beautiful.

Fireflylite creates an immediate negative reaction.

And thank you for your amazing flashlights. The E07 is my favorite flashlight and the PL47 is my favorite headlight.

Is there going to be a E07 gen2 coming? I would like to see one with a deeper optic and more throw, similar to the optic in the astrolux mf01 mini.

Thanks for explaining. We did not aware that. now we have to make a deliberate decision about the new name. Facepalm

I will start a new OP for E07 Gen2

Why not just E12? According to the number of leds.

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E12R, the R stands for rechargeable. This has USB-C recharge at 2A. Thats a very good recharge rate.

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+1
Fireflies E12R sounds good

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I wouldnt risk mine, UNLESS you told and show me how the 12 leds will be batter able to hold X amount of heat where it goes through Y’s dissipation. Hehe, my hope that will solve. I’m not sayin they can’t anyway…but what are the possibillity?

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lightdecay wrote:
Amazing!

• Most efficiency 6A Constant Current Buck driver + FET , Efficiency > 90%

A buck driver would make this a perfect flashlight for red leds and E21A.

(1) Could you offer some 660nm red led, like SST-20-DR, or XP-G3 Photo Red?
(2) Could you offer some 730nm red led, like SST-10-FR, or XP-E2 Far Red?
(3) Could you offer E21A?
(4) Could you offer sliced LH351D? Slicing makes LH351D warmer and more rosy. I would really like sliced LH351D 2700K, it could have a CCT of about 2400K and it would probably be below BBL.
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1688207#comment-1688207
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1688305#comment-1688305

I would buy at least 3 660nm red flashlights, at least 1 730nm red flashlight, and also some with E21A.
I would also buy at least 2 sliced LH351D 2700K flashlights.

Thanks for your input.

I understand red light is for some special use, hunting , signal light etc. but Why using red leds for such a powerful floody light?

We do not supply sliced LH351D, just regular LH351D available.

For E21A light, it is another firefly project.

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SKV89 wrote:
Let’s hope this uses Anduril 2. Anduril 1 is an enthusiast only firmware and not good for gifting to muggles.

I thought li ion and hot rods aren’t for muggles either? fix for this too?

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I don’t quite see the point of giving something to The Muggle that needs to be lobotomised for him to “safely” use it.

Just don’t give someone a pipebomb in the first place, eh?

To me, andy2 would be a serious turnoff, even if it could be “easily” have the training-wheels taken off.

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I’m very interested. It fits my preferences almost completely. I like floddy flashlights, so I’m happy with XPL HD but with so many emitters the HI led is also fine.

I don’t like builtin chargers. I understand that you try to increase sales but for a device aimed at enthusiasts this is bad.

Please use good o-rings. The E07 has bad ones, they get lose and pop out when you lubricate; in the Cu-Ti version of the E07 they’re so bad that I ended up removing it, so it’s no longer water-tight Sad The red o-rings are much better, please use them.

I suggest you ask Maukka to do a through review. They’re very useful to our community.

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