Fireflies NOV-MU 21*Nichia E21A mule 1x21700 Flashlight --in stock

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Sunnysunsun wrote:
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Hi all,

i have send now 4 Emails and no answer from this Company. Who had Contact with this Guys?

I would like to know when the short body with 22340 battery will be available.

If anyone is in contact with FireFlies in the near future, can you please ask them?

I got in contact with him by calling the number on his website. He told me he’s selling them as a kit for $25.

Hey that Sounds awesome but cant find it on the Site. I want that Kit. I hope they added the Kit soon on the Site………

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PP case is great way to communication. Jack answered the same day:)

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AEDe wrote:
PP case is great way to communication. Jack answered the same day:)
Facepalm

Whats wrong with this Company? Maybe 1 Day he will answer me………

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I hope they upgrade to a recessed button someday.

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E07x is available for pre-order

Bonum commune communitatis.

Yarp.

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*I sent my copper E07 back to Jacky in the US address for fixing because 3 things were broken and wrong and I am still being ghosted by him. I repeatedly messaged and emailed FF and Jacky, and always got ghosted. 2 years at this point and over $100 down the toilet. DON'T BUY FIREFLIES OR ANY OF THEIR NEW BRAND THEY ARE A BAD COMPANY. Do not do business with them. Buy from better people and companies.

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I ordered a mule on 20/03/2021.
I received a shipping notice on 01/04/2021
Still waiting, no communication, the tracking number is not working Angry

I’m starting to regret not having taken a D4V2 mule

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Jack was out of town. He just got back to me today so he should be getting to your emails soon. I can imagine he has thousands of emails to go through. But don’t worry he always takes cares of things. Just takes a while sometimes.

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tiry31 wrote:
I ordered a mule on 20/03/2021.
I received a shipping notice on 01/04/2021
Still waiting, no communication, the tracking number is not working Angry

I’m starting to regret not having taken a D4V2 mule


My tracking didn’t work until it was in my town two days ago (USA), it seem they are shipping like BG does.

Ordered lots of times, it eventually gets there

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k (mail)

 

Varmint removal:

Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

Convoy S2+ SST20 4000k  FB4 (3200ma)

Memes:

BLF GT94

Emisar D18 660nm SST20 (mail)

 

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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I ordered the Short Body ect ….19.03 and got an Email from Oliver that they Shipping my Order ASAP

Now we have 10.04 and nothing happened.

I opened a Paypal Case now………but still no Communication Angry

………Ok Jack was out of Town. But do you run such a company?

Even if you don’t do it full-time, you still have an obligation to the customer.

I mean the Nov Mu is really great and Top Notch Quality.

But it will ruin the business in the future when he not changed his Support and Communication.

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Please do no business with this company.. clearly they dont care just ignore and dont even bothers reply to emails.. buyer beware

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mortuus wrote:
Please do no business with this company.. clearly they dont care just ignore and dont even bothers reply to emails.. buyer beware

We don’t like slow emails or seeming lack of parts sales, but they are offering something no one else is.

Many (if not all) hank lights are using inefficient linear driver, and the mule design isn’t as good as NOV-MU (mules should be centered LEDs).

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k (mail)

 

Varmint removal:

Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

Convoy S2+ SST20 4000k  FB4 (3200ma)

Memes:

BLF GT94

Emisar D18 660nm SST20 (mail)

 

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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SKV89 wrote:
Jack was out of town. He just got back to me today so he should be getting to your emails soon. I can imagine he has thousands of emails to go through. But don’t worry he always takes cares of things. Just takes a while sometimes.

Still nothing heard from Fireflies……… nearly 1 Month and no Shipping..Tracking or anything….

Does anyone have contact with Jack and can they ask when he can finally start sending orders again?

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I ordered an E07x on the 18th of March, got an acknowledgement email two days later. I chased on the 5th of April but heard nothing back. I know Fireflies communication is very poor but at this point I don’t know if my order has been despatched or is delayed until the next production run. They only had 120 pieces so that’s only 120 emails to send out….

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dealer on reddit says “they will be shipped this week”

but this week ends tomorrow

They were pretty late with NOV-MU.

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k (mail)

 

Varmint removal:

Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

Convoy S2+ SST20 4000k  FB4 (3200ma)

Memes:

BLF GT94

Emisar D18 660nm SST20 (mail)

 

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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I received my mule Big Smile

Nice product well finished; the absence of optics is much more pleasant indoors than my D4V2 E21 2000K (not a mule).

And the magnet is super strong !

Total delays: a little less than a month in all to France.

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Dalamar wrote:
dealer on reddit says “they will be shipped this week”

I hope so

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Hey guys,

Took a quick look and didnt see much discussion on batteries for this light. I just ordered 3@novmule and want to get some fresh cells. FF has the 40t as an accessory so i guess, thats their pick or one they have on hand that works. Any opinions on cell? I have samsung 40t, 50e, 30t, and molicell p42a on hand. That said, would like to get fresh cells.

Arguments for or against any and all is appreciated. For ff: nov-mu 4500k

Use case is variable, so i am leaning towards 50e. As turbo isnt really the goal. I prefer full flood for the work i do, (closeup <10’). And turbo doesnt make sense for that. Balance of runtime vs max lumen, i would pick runtime—that said, i suppose i need something that can hold low-mid output to high output (not turbo) for the longest time. But, some vaper blogs suggest with high draws the 40t lasts longer than 50e. Maybe i misread it. Was some time ago.

I read somewhere while researching this light that it can run off charger while charging but draw cannot exceed charge input. I.e. it doesnt work as a power cord, it runs off battery [stop] battery charges [stop]. Independently. The recommendation is while plugged in to not use at high levels. Kind of a sad little bottleneck, but is what it is.

So, to sum up. 1. Battery thoughts, 2. Workaround to run off charger at higher levels.

Thanks

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The Vapcell T50 would be my choice, but it would be my choice for just about any 21700 light.

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Yep me too Vapcell T50 is my choice for every 21700 light right now.

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Anybody else experiment with aspheric lenses for their nov-mu? This person fitted an aspheric lens on his, and got a little more focus out of it without much sacrifice to beam uniformity it looks like.

I just ordered a 4500k nov-mu, and also ordered one of those aspheric lenses to play around with.

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twisted raven wrote:
Anybody else experiment with aspheric lenses for their nov-mu? This person fitted an aspheric lens on his, and got a little more focus out of it without much sacrifice to beam uniformity it looks like.

I just ordered a 4500k nov-mu, and also ordered one of those aspheric lenses to play around with.


Don’t bother, it hardly has an effect. It’s too close to the LED, won’t fit right, lose water/dustproofnes, etc. I couldn’t even tell the difference.

I only like high CRI. Collection:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07 219B SW45k

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k (mail)

 

Varmint removal:

Convoy M21A C8 ver SST20 4000k (5a)

Convoy S2+ SST20 4000k  FB4 (3200ma)

Memes:

BLF GT94

Emisar D18 660nm SST20 (mail)

 

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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This is the one you want. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001632207307.html

Get a few of the 29mm since they’re plastic so easier to scratch. The fit is perfect, the result is a bit more focused beam but the tint-shift is more prominent.

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So 29mm over 28mm?

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Yes. I got a whole bunch of them and the 29mm fits best.

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Tom, skv
Thanks.

The vap t50/ sam 50s is a unicorn. I agree with your assessment, but it would arrive middle july—maybe. And 25$ not clear on whether that is 1 cell or a pair. Impressive battery. But, cost benefit analysis + arrival date makes it something i will look into later. Been awhile since i shopped batteries. Looks like molicell m50a or samsung edging a hair with the the 50g. (Per mooch) lights are ~2 weeks out. I cannot imagine t50/50s showing up available before then. Sooo, probably put that on the want list and grab some 50g’s.

Will get the unicorn when it makes its way to illumn/imr/liion. Unless you can point me to another reputable shop stateside that carries them.

Thanks for the input.

Followup: are you aware of an amp ceiling for this light. I mean can
i put a 30t in it or will that kill it?

I no longer work in the field so it occurs to me it is not very complicated for me to have spare cells on the bench and swap out as needed. Been doing this for awhile. Not nearly as bad as having a holster with 4 cells in it pulling your britches down.

So, having a sense of recommended upper limit might have me go in a slightly different direction, i.e. 30t, p42a. I dunno. Seems like once every other year i upgrade lights and have to go thru cost bennys on cells all over again.

Thanks.

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Oh, and back to use case. The lights would be in 70°f, constant on. So whatever that spot is where it all settles down might probably be where i want them. Ff site claims ~1100lumen for a ~3hours. Also a thermal step down point. So i suspect will be aiming for best way to stretch 1100 lumens over time. T50/50s unicorn best, but still a unicorn. Any thoughts on usa available cells?

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30T will not harm the 21 E21A emitters.

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SKV89 wrote:
30T will not harm the 21 E21A emitters.

You did measure a lower intensity using a 30T which shows the E21As are probably in the point of diminishing returns at such a high voltage. I’d recommend a 40T or less powerful.

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