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A treat for myself! (The search continues...)

 

This can end being out of budget, reason for posting to off-topic Wink

 

As some may remember, I keep posting "recommend me X" threads every now and then.

This is because I usually get pulled from sleeve "hey, get me a good flashlight, you know, a GOOD one, bright!", at work, at leisure, relatives etc.

This has been going on for almost a year.

This forum and many users have made things far easier to me because I find it hard to handle the whole, big view of things, thousands of options and what is suitable for some specific job. But I´m learning...

 

So, I deal lights to friends. Recently got DRY in Neutral. Liked it especially tint-wise (Thanks 2100!) but decided to sell it. I do it often, I keep my herd thin. Got few bucks extra from it.

I´m usually on a tight budget, got kids, wife at home for still a while. you know.

This time, I´ve been selling stuff, making dropins, fixing drivers and sold DRY, so budget is pretty much higher than ever.

This time I´m getting a treat for myself!

 

 

DRY was mindblowing, great tint. Had a couple dealbreakers: Rattle, PWM, overall quality...

Next up, I would like to get something more of the higher end of quality.

Be adviced: I have practically NEVER bought even a 18650-sized QUALITY light. Always budget, Solarforces make exception, UL-980 also.

 

Recommend something. Avail. budget is at least 120$ which I got from DRY + some.

 

 

I don´t like PWM much, neither do I like strobes.

CR123 -size is almost out of the question: I carry AAA or AA for size, 18650 for power or runtime. Multi-AA, probably.

Multi 18650, not bad either. 

It does not have to be necessarily multi-emitter. I like XM-L´s for big hotspot but maximum output is not the biggest deal (DRY was purchased for that).

I seem to like cigar-hold for smaller lights. On DRY size, side-clicky would be good IMO.

It should be of a solid construction yet have some touch of class. A better user-light.

 

My ideas for now are:

-Sunwayman V60C, not on discount anymore but... Multi 18650, innovative ring-control.

-The usual suspect, Zebralight SC600. Small, pretty, simple yet "does it all". Not sure about tints... Would like 3C, not too warm. Could get it even locally.

-Jetbeam X, Klarus Y, Olight, Fenix ??

- Joker:  My First HID?!?

- Deal With It: just get another Solarforce, consider it done

- Some crazy-priced custom

 

 

 

Smile

 

Long story short:

Good quality, brand name light, on the bigger size perhaps.

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That's an easy one for me.  My first choice after having quite a few lights in different classes would without a doubt be a Fenix TK41 hands down.  

My second choice would be two professional lights for about $100 together.  Shiningbeam Blaze and Shiningbeam Caveman.  Both choices cover a lot of ground.

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you can't go wrong with the v60c and the sc600..2 of my favourites in my collection..I EDC my sc600 and it's a great size..v60c is a little bit longer than the Dry, but is thinner..and of course quality on both these lights is top notch..

klarus xt11 looks nice also and I want to buy it, but I think it has PWM so it doesn't make the cut..the thunite tn10 is also nice..and I wish sunway made the t20cs full brightness with 18650's..it's really a shame they fudged that up..

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How about the Ultrafire UF-T70, you liked the DRY a lot and this seams to be a higher quality version of that. I am seriously considering one myself, I am just waiting for a review. This will be the most expensive light I have ever purchased but if it's built anything like my MCU-C88 it should be very high quality. Like me you really liked the Dry, but would like a little higher quality unit and this looks like the one.

I am already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

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Chidwack wrote:

That's an easy one for me.  My first choice after having quite a few lights in different classes would without a doubt be a Fenix TK41 hands down.  

My second choice would be two professional lights for about $100 together.  Shiningbeam Blaze and Shiningbeam Caveman.  Both choices cover a lot of ground.

 

I must admit I have been keeping some eye on Shiningbeams lights.

They would cover IMO a need for a very reliable, not too provocative looking light. I just feel this base is covered with my L2 2011 with a good high PWM self assembled dropin.

 

On AA point of view, TK41 is not out of question. Got MAHA, Eneloops also, I like very much the immense reliability and low cost they offer. Jetbeam PA40? 

4 x AA, Zebra Q50? Smile Wait for S-series and go nuts?

 

Have you ever though ZL being an Apple of flashlights? Big Smile

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pounder wrote:

you can't go wrong with the v60c and the sc600..2 of my favourites in my collection..I EDC my sc600 and it's a great size..v60c is a little bit longer than the Dry, but is thinner..and of course quality on both these lights is top notch..

klarus xt11 looks nice also and I want to buy it, but I think it has PWM so it doesn't make the cut..the thunite tn10 is also nice..and I wish sunway made the t20cs full brightness with 18650's..it's really a shame they fudged that up..

 

These are quite heavy arguments in favor of these two.

Very different lights, Got one Zebra, liking it pretty much. Sunwayman is strangely attractive. Not sure if I can deal with ring control but I´m somewhat sure I could make a good user from this with that charging station (yep, still have to check batteries since no balancing).

 

Sunwayman is Big. I would like to have biggish light but there+s a danger it will get less use cause of it´s size. It´s also more expensive but I can live with it.

Zebra feels right size in hand, button is small, though. "I already have one zebra", someone yells from the back of my head...

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The Jetbeam BC40 is ok but it doesn't do anything really outstanding.  I doubt it will put a smile on your face when you turn it on.  Of course you could get a BC40 and a Caveman and still stay within your budget.  If you want something about the same size and battery configuration as a BC40, get yourself a Olight M3x, Sunwayman T40CS, Crelant 7G5 or some of the others ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS has reviewed here on BFL.

The TK41 never fails to put a smile on my face.  It throws with the big boys but it does so much more.   

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E1320 wrote:

How about the Ultrafire UF-T70, you liked the DRY a lot and this seams to be a higher quality version of that. I am seriously considering one myself, I am just waiting for a review. This will be the most expensive light I have ever purchased but if it's built anything like my MCU-C88 it should be very high quality. Like me you really liked the Dry, but would like a little higher quality unit and this looks like the one.

 

A valid point.

This just somehow screams to my face: Low PWM! Big Smile

Feels awkward to buy Ultrafire as a classy option but then again, 980L is one of the "not-for-sale´s" on my shelf. Have to say, I hate the PWM on it like nothing but doing it the Foy-way - using it always on High 8)

I really should update the driver, really....

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Get a TK70

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A Xeno G42 V2, http://www.hkequipment.net/?sp=&p=6&cat2=181&cat1=68&cat0=1&id=965&cat1=...

And you get $5 BLF member discount!

Or a Sunwayman T20CS.

Hopefully my treats soon.

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I'll tell you 4 lights to have.  And I'll put them in the order I like them. 

Fenix TK41

Sunwayman T40CS

Sunwayman V60C

Olight M3x

I love both my Sunwayman flashlights, but as much as I love them if I had to keep only one light it would be the Fenix TK41.  But if I wanted to keep strictly a good quality thrower, I would have to pick the Sunwayman T40CS.

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JohnnyMac wrote:

Get a TK70

A bit too big and I don´t have appetite to go back to D-NiMh, at least not now.

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS wrote:

I'll tell you 4 lights to have.  And I'll put them in the order I like them. 

Fenix TK41

Sunwayman T40CS

Sunwayman V60C

Olight M3x

I love both my Sunwayman flashlights, but as much as I love them if I had to keep only one light it would be the Fenix TK41.  But if I wanted to keep strictly a good quality thrower, I would have to pick the Sunwayman T40CS.

 

T40CS seems promising. Cannot say to be a real fan of throwers but T40CS seems to have a wide spill, no PWM, side clicky, hidden flashies, good regulation and efficiency... Many good arguments.

 

ILF; what would you say about those beam rings, are they that bad?

 

TK41, hmm, seems also "legit" but for some reason does not ring the bell.

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How about something different! The Photon Proton Pro. It's only about $40 and has been out for years but is a totally cool light IMO.

It's single AA with a side button that ramps the output from high to low (uses a XP-E). It also has a red LED. That ramps from low (almost invisible) to high.

It has multiple beacons/strobes/SOS but they are all hidden.

It throws well for such a small light but if you like flood (and I do) you can take the head apart easily and put some diffusion film in there and you'll have both a beautiful white and red beam.

You could also wear it around your neck, use it with a key chain or use the removable clip as well as just dropping it in your pocket.

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The beam rings you basically will see indoors more than you will outdoors.  But even if they are present, they don't bother me in the slightest.  The T40CS will become one of your favorite lights.  Trust me. 

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tk41 - if you change your mind it will sell quickly to one of your 'hey get me a light' buddies Wink

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HKequipment seems to have a set of 8 Eneloops with TK41 for 130$. Not NECESSARILY needin 8 more Eneloops but it does not hurt. Not sure if I have 8 more absolutely idle...

DD does not have, Batteryjunction for 130$ but no loops...

 

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I quess a light with AA-configuration would sell here, if I decide to sell it.

 

I think I will get that TK41 to see, what´s that all fuzz about Smile

Had one Fenix before, L0D...

If it´s a no-no, T40CS is next in the line Big Smile

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there's a long thread on cpf about diffusers for it - I forget which one specific model, but there's an olight diffuser that's supposed to fit well...if you're into that sort of thing

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You have made a wise choice with the TK41.  Look how long I had to keep bugging ILF before he bought one.  Now it's his favorite light.

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Chidwack wrote:

You have made a wise choice with the TK41.  Look how long I had to keep bugging ILF before he bought one.  Now it's his favorite light.

 

Have not ordered yet Big Smile

Soon...

Noticed someone ranting about battery holder rattling.

Does this TK41 have bad PWM on low levels?

With greeting: Allergic to PWM Flat Stare

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You have made a wise choice with the TK41.  Look how long I had to keep bugging ILF before he bought one.  Now it's his favorite light.

Yep.  And it uses AA nimh batteries which is a good option to have. 

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Chidwack wrote:

You have made a wise choice with the TK41.  Look how long I had to keep bugging ILF before he bought one.  Now it's his favorite light.

Yep.  And it uses AA nimh batteries which is a good option to have. 

 

I chose to take it from HKequipment now, not cheapest at 129.90 but it has added 8 Eneloops, 3-5$/pcs locally.

I think it is a fair difference for getting a bare light for some 116$ or so. Locally this is 172$ for the set.

Bet I can sell this away here with quite small losses if needed...

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You can feel the battery holder rattle a little if you  move it quickly or when you bump it.  There is an easy fix that someone mentioned either here or over at CPF.  After I put the batteries in the holder, I wrap two 3x5 index cards around the batteries and holder before I put it into the body.  Stops everything from moving or rattling around and the index cards mold themselves to fit the inside of the body of the light.  They stay in when I remove the batteries from the light.

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Received today, seems legit!

More comments to come a bit later -> 8)

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Ok.

 

First things to notice were: centered emitter, flawless reflector, AR-lens and very balanced beam with no artifacts.

I like the side clicky. Size is good, beam is spotty for all-round -use but on the other hand spill is wide and nicer than in most of my lights.

No PWM, which is nice. Modes are nicely spaced. Seems to give good runtimes 8)

 

Rants go to a bit greenish tint, battery holder is rattling a bit. Outlook and feel are a weird thing. Somehow it does not feel like "a solid tool". Looks from outside and knurling texture feels and looks a bit generic, cloned or should I say, genderless. I might be looking for some heftier figures, I really can´t describe it well enough. 

Maybe it´s the size proportions, body thickness & head size. Somehow the body tube also feels very light and thin, not bulky at all. Tailcap is the worst part.

Weight is naturally a bad thing if you want to carry it with ease.

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I wrap a single piece of paper towel around the battery holder, that keeps any rattles away. I'm glad it's not heavier, I would not use it as much if it was. My emitter is WAY off center, but it does not seem to affect the beam at all, go figure.

Haven't found any dislikes with my TK41, and it blows away anyone who sees what it can light up at night.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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Streetlights were off this evening...

Tested on yard, throw is quite impressive!

 

Seems to dissipate heat on High with ease, does not get too hot. 

 

To get a full reload, I will have to do two full sets with my 4-bay Maha.

OTOH, two 18650 take also several hours, even longer than eneloops.

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Tested again today, paper towel indeed takes rattling away nicely!

 

At winter wind breeze, this did not get even slightly warm outside this evening.

However, I noticed one thing:

Side buttons are nice but if you wear gloves (like I do when it´s dark in here), they are harder to find by the touch of your thumb.

Tail clicky "is always there" where you would expect it to be. These are not, if you happen to rotate light.

These also seem to have very shallow press, which I do like but they have far more open slack than the actual travel of the microswitch. This together with quite low button profile does not impress my thumb. 

You see, at winter my skin dries up, thumbs tend to have cracks, so I generally use the side of the thumb to press these side-clickies. Therefore the accuracy of press and feel is not that good.

 

Shallow button profile and quite hard press for the size are surely intentional to avoid activation by accident.

 

 

Hmm, this one is going to be sold now.

Again, don´t take seriously, I´m ranting now on your favorite lights, this just does not ring the bell... Smile

If I can get some cash back from this, I´m probably up for SWM or something else.

Please, keep those great suggestions coming! 8)

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Skyray King?

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After all of my dabbles in nitecore, swm, fenix, spark etc., the SWM's have always been the one I go to for quality, user interface (can't beat infinite variable control ring), and I like the look too. Not to say the others were bad. I loved them too but the SWM just continuously blow me away with overall greatness. 

 

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Interesting, I don't own a single SWM light. Not sure why, just never got excited enough to spend the money on one.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

http://dreammustang.com/

http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/Ha

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