Looking for a new light that is:
- 18650 form factor
- Has the tactical tail switch
- Long range, ideally 300m or so
Basically looking for something as close to the Fenix PD36R as possible in a budget light. I’m in the UK so availability may not be the same as the US. This one looks pretty good: Amazon.co.uk
But no Anduril on that one, and I’d love to know about other options that fit the bill.
Thanks
Hum, some doubts about the request, so I’ll ask to eventually help on the choice.
Would it be a “tube” light, or could it be different?
What do you mean by tactical? That allows momentary modes? That goes to turbo or to moonlight or to strobe?
For this I guess lights with larger heads would be the ideal, depending on the led too
How would this combine with the tactical tail switch?
Some suggestions (more related to throw and firmware):
Noctigon KR1
Lumintop X9
NLIGHTD T90
Thanks for your reply, I think I’ve found the one:
https://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/p10i
Not keen on big heads. This is a bit more expensive than a budget light but it looks so good I think I’ll just get it and just have one really great tube light.
I guess you’ll be well served with it 
acebeam L17
Nitecore P30.
Ain’t many compact throwers with FC tailswitches.
Thanks for the suggestions. I’m incredibly indecisive with these things but I’m starting to think I answered my own question in the first post - just get the PD36R and call it a day. I realised this morning that the Nitecore P10i I ordered only has 3 brightness modes, so 35 lumens, 230 or 1800. That’s a pretty huge gap, kind of strange that there isn’t an 800 lumen mode. Also runtime on turbo is about half of the PD36R so I’m thinking since I was willing to spend £80 on the P10i I might as well just spend a little more and get the PD36R which ticks all the boxes.
As you are in the UK, I assume the ‘tactical’ side of the torch is just a preference as oppose to a ‘need’?
For me I struggle to really believe any of these are true “long range” lights. For long range you really need a larger reflector and both of the lights you mention are just compact tube lights with small reflectors. The Fenix also claims to have a large SST-40 LED, which again I struggle to see being at all throwy in such a light.
I know they have claims of beam distance and lux, but I wonder if these are a little misleading due to the very short lived turbo output. I suspect both will be good lights overall, but long distance I suspect not.
That’s ok for me, I know it might not actually meet the spec but all I really need is a little bit more throw than the PD35 v2 I previously had. The PD35 was really nice but I found that it just didn’t quite reach far enough. For me it’s mostly just an expensive toy, my only real use-case is locating my dog in a fairly large park which is where the range comes in.
I naively bought the SC31 Pro thinking that twice the lumens would work better, but its range was about the same as the PD35 as it kicks all the light out at shorter range. So since the PD36 has a longer range by Fenix’s own specifications it should be pretty much what I want.
I also don’t need a long turbo runtime really, finding the dog just takes a few seconds 
Also really like Fenix build quality, the PD35 felt really nice.
To illuminate object to be well seen on 300m you need more than pocket size so-called “thrower” toys.
Mike
Consider getting yourself a compact thrower. I have the Noctigon KR1 with the W2 Osram LED. No tube light is comparable in terms of throw and beam distance.
I got the PD36R and it’s really nice. Throw is more than adequate for my needs. The only odd thing is that the side button feels quite loose and doesn’t give a very satisfying click action. It does always work but feels cheap and like it might break. Strange as everything else about it feels really high quality. It was bought from uk amazon, not a 3rd party seller so should be genuine. I might email them about it.
i thought so too, until i got acebam e10, that tir of theirs really kicks ass. can’t speak for other light with different optics.
Well figure the acebeam e10 has a head of 40mm and length of 91mm and a width of 31 it still throws less than a KR1 using a traditional reflector with a head measuring at 35mm and as a plus it uses a standard 18650 or 18350 battery which can be swapped around while the E10 uses an odd 26350 battery unique to itself.
The E10 looks to have a pretty big head diameter though, i.e. a big optic.
i’d like to see them head to head, e10 760lm 123100 cd, kr1 1300lm 100000cd, looks like e10 tir still kicks a$$ even at half the lumens, , i can only imagine how far would e10 throw if it was making 1300lm
KR1 with the W2 has those specs but the W1 throws more……
W1 (Osram CSLNM1.TG): 900lm, Lux : 110Kcd (110,000cd)
W2 (Osram CSLPM1.TG): 1300lm, Lux: 100Kcd (100,000cd)
XP-L HI 6500K/5000K/4000K: 1300lm, Lux: 45Kcd (45,000cd)
SST-40 5000K/6500K: 2200lm, Lux: 29Kcd (29,000cd)
I’m not knocking the Acebeam. But the KR1 is significantly more compact and narrower, to the point that you’d easily be able to EDC in a jeans pocket. The fat e10 I doubt very much so. But a larger optic is likely to offer slightly more throw. Although without someone independently testing them side by side. I’d suspect the same emitter (exactly) probably performs pretty equally overall.
yep i agree side by side would be a fair comparison, but before it happens we can use lux numbers which are used to calculate the throw, if i’m not mistaken
i do not have kr1, i have kr4 which is a bit shorter in length and has a smaller head, so the difference will be even smaller with kr1 vs e10, i would not call it significant, more like slight when compared, and prbly even less to none when inside a pocket,
kr-1 has one big advantage over e10 a clip, something that e10 does not have, but in any case those 2 lights show that today you do not need a large head to throw far. tir lenses came a long way, so did tiny die leds with massive output. we no longer need a huge light to throw far, of course if you want a mile+ throw, and tons of spill you’ll need a big light.
btw, i’m not knocking kr1, i have kr4 and i love it, i’m sure kr1 would not disappoint either,
