TrustFire X6 SST-90 5-Mode 2300 Lumens LED Flashlight (3x18650)

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Err.. I'd think 10 times before ordering a $140 flashlight through the net.

When spending serious money, I'd like to be able to test out the item first Cool

Lights out! That's when things get interesting...

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The only cheap and safe Chinese reseller that I know of that makes it cost effective to return merchandise within the US is DX. They can usually price match their competition and refund, exchange or credit broken or returned merchandise. If the merchandise is broken, they will pay up to 1/3rd the cost of the item to return it to their US location.

If DX carried this light and the reviews were good, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt it could do well on only 3 x 18650's.

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KD are selling it for $140.50

 

http://www.kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=10999

 

They have increased the price to $149.99

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Beamshot Video for Trustfire X6 VS Olight SR91 will update in my Youtube Channel tonight !

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Please give me some advice for this video, then i can make a better video for the members !

Any advice are welcome ,thanks in advance !

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Didn't have any advice for my Video ?

It is very perfect  ?    LOL !Cool

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Trustfire X6 have cut down the price .

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Still waiting for tailcap reading...

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Trustfire X6 SST-90 flashlight VS Olight SR50 beamshot compare

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7En_F2qXAS8

 

Trustfire SST 50 VS Olight SR50 beamshot compare

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2m4sCmQhX0

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The best way to do a beamshot comparison would be to take a side-by-side photo with manual exposure stopped down until the hotspots do not saturate.

 

When you use auto-exposure like that, the camera will try to expose such that stuff in the flood area is not too dark, which results in the hotspot saturating the sensor (which have limited dynamic range compared to human eyes) so it's impossible to tell which is brighter.

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I have to add to this that i had that Trustfire SST-50 ordered from lightake.com. It measured only about 3000lux in my lightbox. As comparison my Mag85 reads about 5300lux and WF-1300L is around 5000lux

 

So it won't go near 1300lumen. Also tailcap reading was 1.8 - 2.0A

 

So again i'm highly suspicious about that X6...

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That should be almost 4A to the emitter.  Lux in and of itself doens't necessarily tell the whole story, as it's only a measure of throw, not output.

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agenthex wrote:

That should be almost 4A to the emitter.  Lux in and of itself doens't necessarily tell the whole story, as it's only a measure of throw, not output.

I can tell you, for sure it wasn't that bright what they advertise

My WF-1300L blows it away clearly  

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agenthex wrote:

That should be almost 4A to the emitter.  Lux in and of itself doens't necessarily tell the whole story, as it's only a measure of throw, not output.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci542011,00.html

Nope. Lux is simply a measure of the quantity of energy on a given area. 1 lux is 1 lumen per square metre. It is not distance dependent, hence a throw measurement is a number of lux at a given distance.

 

In a lightbox where the intent is to integrate all the output, you get a number of lux which is the "averaged out" number of lumens per square metre under those conditions. 

 

If the box is calibrated to absolute units then you can read lumens directly off the integrating device. This is harder than it seems.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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Nope. Lux is simply a measure of the quantity of energy on a given area. 1 lux is 1 lumen per square metre. It is not distance dependent, hence a throw measurement is a number of lux at a given distance.

 

The implication here is that we're only comparing lux at a consistent distance. http://budgetlightforum.cz.cc/node/694#comment-12685

 

I would certainly hope juhi measured them at the same distance.

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Another variable is that these light meters are said to be calibrated to be most sensitive and accurate in the 4200K range. The higher up the scale you go, the less sensitive and more inaccurate the readings become. If all the test subjects had the same tint, you could do direct comparisons.

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are said to be calibrated to be most sensitive and accurate in the 4200K range

 

The SI base units of candela/lumen/lux are "luminous" instead of "radiant", which means they are all calibrated to the human eye. So if a light meter is indeed a "lux" meter, it should presumably weight more or less against the spectral response of the photopic luminosity function, which if we need to translate looks to be best approximated by about a 5000-6000K black body (sun is closer to 6kK).

 

However, the cree/led white output is actually not much like the black body function at all. I didn't bother with graphing it, but it looks like the typical 6000K+ cree gives up significant chunks of red/yellow to fill in the blue part of the photopic function. Probably worth it for something approaching mesopic vision, but makes colors look crap as usual.

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BOB were selling it for $47, so i odered one, but got a email today:

My apology that due to a disruption in the production line, the
factory is unable to confirm the availability of the product you have
ordered.
1 x TrustFire X6 5mode Luminus SST-90 LED Aluminum Flashlight (E54037)  =$47.00

In view of your situation, please advise if we can offer you a refund
of the item(s) or if you want to change to something else.

Kindly email us again if you need further assistance.


Regards,
Yuan
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www.BestOfferBuy.com

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Its the Chinglish way of saying they screwed up and cant sell it at that price without losing their shirts. In the U.S., we call it "lying". That would have been a slick deal if the sale went through.

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They have shipped Cool

 

1 x TrustFire X6 5mode Luminus SST-90 LED Aluminum Flashlight (E54037)  =
$47.00 ($42.30)


1 x Aurora SH-034 Stainless Steel Cree Q5-WC 220-Lumen LED Flashlight
(1*16340) (E44527)  = $12.90 ($11.61)

 

With Tracking Number

Total cost $53.91 with 10 % discount

 

I will have to wait and see if I get it


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I must first apologise to everyone for not telling about Trustfire x6 deal for $47. The farce that happened with the Solarorce SS for $23 at BOB and no-one got it. I wanted to go under the radar to see if they will ship it, but got an email stating that I cannot have due to production problems. I did not reply to this email and got shippiong conformation email today

 

I'm not to sure what they are sending, I'll have to wait.

 

Sorry Guys.Frown

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No worries - but I am astonished that they shipped one for a third of the price! Wonder if they still offer it at that price?

 

Nope - it is now $155 again.

 

That's a good price on the Aurora light too - I am delighted with my one of those, it is one of the the best built, if not the best built light I own.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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I bought the Aurora because you recommended it Don, I hope it's good.

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Using 3 Ultrafire 2600 Mah batteries fullycharged.

Hi - 2.36 amps

Med - .8 amp

Lo - .18 amp

So Hi would be about 26 watts assuming 11 Volt supply.

 

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Looks like they they took the practical route and used a mc-e driver and depend on the voltage of 3 lithiums to get the power.

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here watch my little 3 minute video - in less than a month i have gotten 750 view's and i wasnt even trying to or selling anything or .... sheesh ....

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znmzdx wrote:

Please give me some advice for this video,

then i can make a better video for the members !

Any advice are welcome ,thanks in advance !

For more video ,you can go to my Youtube Channel  .

 Please give me some advice for this video, then i can make a better video's !!!

OK HERE....

 lose the music and Speak what you are doing with what in the video's that you make -

nobody is gonna give you grief about what you are Speaking about whatever you are

showing or how you speak here take a look a my suddenly famous video - at least for

 me I had no idea !!! that there would be such a HUNGRY audience for this video

title ; LED SSC P7 3 mode versus CATEYE HL-EL530 Bicycle Light

review & link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJZEvoORGk 

 here watch my little 3 minute video - in less than a month i have

gotten 750 view's and i wasnt even trying to or selling anything or

 .... sheesh ....

 p.s. i did the first one incorrectly on this forum - posting that is ...

pp.s. i placed a simliar comment in one of your video's ... that i

 watched from this thread... the one with the 2 flashlights the

trustfire and the olight

here's my youtube page link

http://www.youtube.com/user/DecentMan4you?feature=mhum

Look through my video's ok ? Smile

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This is why you buy from DX or another distributor that will pay for return shipping on broken merchandise. Its also another stark reminder of the potential abysmal QC practices that we've seen in most Chinese lights of all price ranges. So when you ask your distributor several times if he pays for return shipping on failed items and he ignores your questions, flip him the bird and purchase from someone that does. Also, DX will almost always price match their competition and has the best support forum of the bunch.

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I'm amazed that there are pratically no QC even with this light which cost almost $160!

I can understand that if you buy a $5 light you can't expect so much. But this thing? Come on, it's just a robbery.

 

Practically all of my "china" light's have been somehow broken or need of some fixing. None of them has a "quality" short of speak even with the more expensive ones.

 

I'm also getting tired of this constant poor customer service and quality.  

My other hobby is all kind's of electronic gadget's and computers.

 

I bought recently a tablet computer from euogo.com. It was said to be one of the best china tablet's today. I got it few weeks after and it was unusable. It had very poor touch screen which made it pratically impossible to use. Also the battery life was 2h with WiFi use. I tried to ask some help and maybe a refund or return but they ignored me completely. Several email's after they answered something completely stupid as "have you tried to lower screen brightness or make a screen calibration". Yes, i can assure you that i have!

 

That thing cost's $170.

 

That's when i decided to never buy a nothing more expensive than a few buck's light from chinese and with a strong consideration. 

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