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My guess is that flashlight enthusiasts are few and far between in general. I don’t see age as being the main factor. Could be wrong.

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Thanks for finding that, it’s interesting. So 6 years ago the under-25 group was less than half of the over-50 group. I would imagine the same poll today would indeed find many members moved up an age group, and few took their place below.

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I think it is Great some/many BLF members are also CPF members too.
I’m sure there are interests both forums share and benefit from all the time.
Both forums have up’s and down’s.
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There is more leeway here on BLF.
As you can see on this thread, even borderline Trolling is permitted, at CPF you would get the Boot. Wink
We are very fortunate the Ol Lumen spirit of Love of flashlights and friendship is still present. Love
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Joshk wrote:
I’m not looking to change people, only the atmosphere here. I do typically fit in well with older generations, and hope to become 60+ some day… But watching quietly while the youth is driven into obscurity on my favorite forum to socialize doesn’t sit well with me. If I was admin, this dude would have been given serious warning after invoking imagery of dominance via violence. Not a free pass.
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It’s like having new puppies running around peeing, crapping & chewing stuff up, you just need to beat them into submission house train them in the ways of the owners rules Big Smile

I believe that was mine.
Joke dude, like totally. I like puppies.
Not sure what else to say to you (publicly) if that got you all excited.

There is no old boys club, I myself am just a young man Silly
No one gets promoted into positions of power here either. There is only one and he probably didn’t give me a “serious warning” as he saw it for what the comment was. Geez man…
I see your panties are still bunched up about the contest, the organizers not allowing your own rules.
The contest is kept alive by members of the forum doing unknown (to you) hours of work behind the scenes. We try to keep the original concept of Old Lumens as much as possible but the main man running the show has been on a rotation system these past few years so a solution to your problem might be to step up and offer to run it yourself one year, then you could introduce a new category just as I introduced the modified light category, that does not hinder the youth.

Have I dominated anyone into obscurity?
I really don’t know about that.
Do I create a bad atmosphere here on BLF?
I really hope that is not what you meant.
For what it’s worth, I have never received a warning from sb, though he might have thought about it once or twice Innocent Thumbs Up

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CNCman wrote:
…….. We are very fortunate the Ol Lumen spirit of Love of flashlights and friendship is still present. Love .

Amen to that! For an example, look at HERE !

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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Joshk wrote:
Since flashlights appeal to all ages, especially kids, you would expect a majority of members to be under 25. But that’s not the case. It would seem the best explanation is the atmosphere in general.

Not related to the thread title, but to this sentence, yes, flashlights appeal to many people, including kids. But kids don’t have the economic power or “savyness” (whatever!), so grown-ups have to invest (time and money) in the flashlight business to giv’em lights to the kids. And…here we are all Big Smile Cash

As for the ageist conception/argument, I wouldn’t go that way Wink
BTW, I’m in the mid 30s! Beer Beer Big Smile

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Henk4U2 wrote:
CNCman wrote:
…….. We are very fortunate the Ol Lumen spirit of Love of flashlights and friendship is still present. Love .

Amen to that! For an example, look at HERE !


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Thanks for sharing that ‘Henk4U2’ Thumbs Up
It’s great to watch a World Wide Family Love
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Since we’ve largely departed from forum comparisons and we‘re talking about BLF I’ll say this:

I’ve been here about 4 years, as you can see. I’ve found this forum a more helpful and collaborative experience than anywhere else. The amount of discussion that’s been friendly and positive, and helped me learn is tremendous. I read a lot more than I post and it’s been a highlight in my life. If I need a break from other things I’ll come here and leave feeling happier. Thank you all. BTW, I’m in my 40’s.

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Joshk wrote:
you would expect a majority of members to be under 25. But that’s not the case. It would seem the best explanation is the atmosphere in general.

Given that internet forums are an “old school” format popular during the analogue modem era, I would expect a demographic old enough to have used those back in the day. Forums have definitely faded into obscurity since social media platforms took off. I don’t think “too many old people” would be the sole reason for an older demographic on a forum.
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^ Well a special shout-out to Colonel Light for offering a explanation other than what must be wrong with me Thumbs Up

If I thought BLF was nothing but damaged goods I wouldn’t still be here. Let’s see my view as constructive criticism and endeavor not to prove me right in the future.

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Surprisingly, even to me, the same user that created that thread is also the same user that has recently been promoted to a position of power within BLF, and has used that power to cut the head off debate about allowing new technology in certain areas.

I understand that you’re upset, but “promoted to a position of power” is hyperbolic and simply not true. The one and only moderator here continues to be me. The OL Contest has had different organizers and different judges for each of the past several years. I don’t choose them, and I exercise no voice in that process. It just sort of organically happens each year, and my thanks goes to all who have helped thus far. You have a right to politely take up the issue with those that you feel were unfair, but please don’t try to conflate it with corruption or anything else more dramatic than the actual reality, which is a flashlight forum that has one moderator and a meritocratic ad-hoc organizational structure that usually works pretty well.

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If I thought BLF was nothing but damaged goods I wouldn’t still be here.

 

Wait… so I won’t be promoted to a Position Of Power? So what’re all my bribes gratuities being used for??

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I have not been here long on either forum, but from what ive observed, on CPF, they will rubbish anyone asking about LED lenser products, recommending some other brand that i had never heard of or can no longer remember.
This forum also seems to be more orientated to those who build their own custom flashlights or make mods.

CPF is very useful for collectors, of maglites in particular.

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When I’ve looked, cpf cares more about the following things:

  • tactical lights
  • the “custom” or “high-end” light scene
  • of course, their sponsor brands

BLF cares more about:

  • bang for the buck
  • DIY/customization

But these are broad generalizations and I rarely poke around over there.

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I remember when BLF was first created, CPF would delete or deride anyone who asked anything about lights from DX, KD, etc, bunch of elitist snobs.

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^ What’s the history? Was one a spinoff of the other? Did any other groups come first?

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Joshk wrote:
^ What’s the history? Was one a spinoff of the other? Did any other groups come first?

Regarding CPF and BLF? CPF was started long before us. I was a user, specifically interested in an 8x twisty LED Chinese flashlight for about $4. CPF discouraged linking to the Chinese vendors, so we had to refer to specific models as “DX sku 2089” (for a DealExtreme.com product) or “KD #10005” (for a Kaidomain product), which I didn’t like. And then I saw that somebody posted on CPF that it would be nice if they were to create a subforum for “budget lights”, and that’s when BLF was born.

To their credit, on CPF I recently noticed a discussion where the poster asked about a specific Chinese flashlight, and a moderator politely responded with what he knew about it, and then proceeded to say something to the effect of “you might want to ask over on BLF as that’s more along their line”. So that was a properly classy response.

Apart from CPF there were a few budget flashlight bloggers with detailed reviews of cheap lights and active commenter sections.

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An observation from a chronologically gifted casual spectator:

There are some people who are members of both forums and who also occasionally simultaneously start a new thread on both the CPF and BLF forums with the exact same first post and the response to those posts (both the number of and the content of the follow-on posts) reveals the most interesting "similarities and differences" between the two forums.

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sb56637 wrote:
Joshk wrote:
^ What’s the history? Was one a spinoff of the other? Did any other groups come first?

Regarding CPF and BLF? CPF was started long before us. I was a user, specifically interested in an 8x twisty LED Chinese flashlight for about $4. CPF discouraged linking to the Chinese vendors, so we had to refer to specific models as “DX sku 2089” (for a DealExtreme.com product) or “KD #10005” (for a Kaidomain product), which I didn’t like. And then I saw that somebody posted on CPF that it would be nice if they were to create a subforum for “budget lights”, and that’s when BLF was born.

To their credit, on CPF I recently noticed a discussion where the poster asked about a specific Chinese flashlight, and a moderator politely responded with what he knew about it, and then proceeded to say something to the effect of “you might want to ask over on BLF as that’s more along their line”. So that was a properly classy response.

Apart from CPF there were a few budget flashlight bloggers with detailed reviews of cheap lights and active commenter sections.


Thanks for the history lesson sb! That all is a bit before my time Wink
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Yes, thanks sb. I can see how that was a motivating experience…

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BLF has more  Budget Light Fun 

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sb56637 wrote:
To their credit, on CPF I recently noticed a discussion where the poster asked about a specific Chinese flashlight, and a moderator politely responded with what he knew about it, and then proceeded to say something to the effect of “you might want to ask over on BLF as that’s more along their line”. So that was a properly classy response.

It’s nice to know that the hatchet seems to have been buried. After all, we all love lights Big Smile

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Boaz wrote:


 


BLF has more  Budget Light Fun 


catchy and modern Thumbs Up

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