Gasket to fit Convoy S2 with KW CSLNM1.TG?

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Gasket to fit Convoy S2 with KW CSLNM1.TG?

Simon can’t build me a Convoy S2 with KW CSLNM1.TG since he doesn’t have the gasket for it. Wondering if I could do it myself with the right gasket

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I got an S2 with the 7mm 3030 gasket and the reflector itself didn’t produce a perfectly round beam. The s2+ reflector did though so I used it instead. They should have the same sized hotspot

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Sunnysunsun wrote:
I got an S2 with the 7mm 3030 gasket and the reflector itself didn’t produce a perfectly round beam. The s2+ reflector did though so I used it instead. They should have the same sized hotspot

How do you like the light? Any video of performance or beamshots?

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Sunnysunsun wrote:
I got an S2 with the 7mm 3030 gasket and the reflector itself didn’t produce a perfectly round beam. The s2+ reflector did though so I used it instead. They should have the same sized hotspot

This gasket?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001352552452.html

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I believe so. I didn’t buy them but asked Simon to include one for me

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Sunnysunsun wrote:
I believe so. I didn’t buy them but asked Simon to include one for me

Simon says s2+ reflector won’t fit in s2

I think he just doesn’t want to build the light

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Sunnysunsun wrote:
I got an S2 with the 7mm 3030 gasket and the reflector itself didn’t produce a perfectly round beam. The s2+ reflector did though so I used it instead. They should have the same sized hotspot

S2+ SMO reflector or Orange peel?

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supreme wrote:
Sunnysunsun wrote:
I got an S2 with the 7mm 3030 gasket and the reflector itself didn’t produce a perfectly round beam. The s2+ reflector did though so I used it instead. They should have the same sized hotspot

S2+ SMO reflector or Orange peel?

Smooth. It doesn’t as far as I know because it’s too short. Just get the S2+ with the osram and you should be fine. I was testing out a special use case where I want it as a little spill as possible so I used an S2+ reflector and filled the gap with some black tubing material to absorb the light’s spill.

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supreme wrote:
Sunnysunsun wrote:
I believe so. I didn’t buy them but asked Simon to include one for me

Simon says s2+ reflector won’t fit in s2

I think he just doesn’t want to build the light

I think sometimes the messages from Simon can do with some improvement.
Though the outcome of his message is the same, the reason needs some clarification.

On the outside the head(piece) of an S2 is almost identical to that of an S2+, just a few mm longer.
On the inside it is a complete different story. The short version of it is this:
The S2 has a long reflector and a short pill.
The S2+ has a short reflector and a long(er) pill.
In both heads the threads run a far down as they are needed for the pill to secure the reflector.
So in the S2 they don’t run down very far. Because it has a long reflector.

The short reflector of the S2+ fits perfectly fine in an S2 body,
but the threads don’t run far enough down for the (eg. any) pill to be able to secure them.

Picture: S2 combo on the left, S2+ combo on the right.
The reflector will fit, but the pill can’t get far enough down in the head to secure the reflector.
It is not a matter of not wanting to assemble a working light for you, it is a matter of not being able.

Mind you, I’ve bought many S2(plusses) from him, though not recently.
If things have changed inside the heads, I’m not aware of that.

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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Henk4U2 wrote:
supreme wrote:
Sunnysunsun wrote:
I believe so. I didn’t buy them but asked Simon to include one for me

Simon says s2+ reflector won’t fit in s2

I think he just doesn’t want to build the light

I think sometimes the messages from Simon can do with some improvement.
Though the outcome of his message is the same, the reason needs some clarification.

On the outside the head(piece) of an S2 is almost identical to that of an S2+, just a few mm longer.
On the inside it is a complete different story. The short version of it is this:
The S2 has a long reflector and a short pill.
The S2+ has a short reflector and a long(er) pill.
In both heads the threads run a far down as they are needed for the pill to secure the reflector.
So in the S2 they don’t run down very far. Because it has a long reflector.

The short reflector of the S2+ fits perfectly fine in an S2 body,
but the threads don’t run far enough down for the (eg. any) pill to be able to secure them.

Picture: S2 combo on the left, S2+ combo on the right.
The reflector will fit, but the pill can’t get far enough down in the head to secure the reflector.
It is not a matter of not wanting to assemble a working light for you, it is a matter of not being able.

Mind you, I’ve bought many S2(plusses) from him, though not recently.
If things have changed inside the heads, I’m not aware of that.

Thank you for the explanation.

I also asked if I could use a SMO reflector for the S2. Not sure why this is not possible since it seems to be available
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1707184225.html

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I just built one about a week ago with a host from mtnelectonics.com and the gasket linked in #4. It’s an OP reflector. The smooth reflector Simon has available says it has a 5mm hole. I don’t see a 3030 gasket for a 5mm hole but the XP butterfly gasket would probably work: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1615398958.html?spm=2114.12010612.814835...

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I have determined with a height gage and a lux meter that the optimum gap between the MCPCB and the bottom-most part of the S2 reflector is .66mm /.026”, when paired with an Osram WF1. Due to compression of the plastic centering gasket, .686mm / .027” should be ideal. Being off in either direction, too tall or too short, by .1mm / .004”, does not have much of an effect on lux (~5%) or beam quality.

Further, the beam looks good even when the reflector is dead flush on the MCPCB, but it is floody and not focused, and the Lux value is at 58% of perfect focus.
When the reflector is far too high, at a certain point a dead spot / donut appears in the center of the beam.

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Agree with jarhart--there is no readily available gasket for Osram emitters and 5mm reflector hole; the normal S2+ reflector is 7mm.

Your best chance is a XP (3535) 5mm butterfly gasket, and use an x-acto knife to cut out divots on the sides to fit the corners of your 3030 osram.