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Thinking of our Friends in Texas

Here’s hoping our many members of the great state of Texas are holding out OK.

That is some nasty weather in an area not really built for it on such a mass scale and intensity.
Makes you realize we all probably need more stores of emergency gasoline to run generators, etc. because when your grid goes down the Gas Station does you no good no matter how much money you have in your pocket.
And alternate heat sources for sure.

Anyway I know they will have plenty of flashlights to get them by.

If you have power there, please give a shout and let us know how you are doing. Wish there was a way to send some juice to you all.
Praying for Ya’
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Have you seen the long lines in 25* temperatures outside of the super markets with nothing on the shelves?

They’re in for tough times.

But we here in Florida, are used to this shit.

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We just got hammered by about a foot of snow where I live, but in Oregon, like down south, Salem, Milwaukee, Silverton got hit by freezing rain and ice that completely destroyed the power grid for 3 days. Some are still without power. Some people’s houses got smashed by falling trees. Crazy weather. We have had fatalities due to traffic accidents and house fires.

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 All my exes live in Texas. youtube.com/watch?v=QuJroujjYDk

I hope that all of the flashoholics in Texas have plenty of power on earth, and plenty of power from Heaven, too.

Because I like big lights, my flashlightical views lean heavily toward both the extreme bright and the extreme heft.

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Power out for 30,000 homes here for a while. Out of 153,000.
Getting better now. Friends in Stanton just got it back after almost 24 hours.
Lots of buildings downtown have burst pipes and water cascading down the floors.
Including city hall.
Went to the food store today. Totally a frenzy. Had plenty of stores at home but needed bread and milk.
Idiots not wearing masks. Somewhere Darwin is laughing.
Texas drivers have no clue how to drive on ice.
My wife building had no heat. Not sure about power.
I’ll be replacng UPS batteries for a bunch of clients next week.
And yes, I have a crap- ton of liths charged and ready to power stuff.
Been advising friends about how to deal with frozen pipes without havng a blowout.
Lots of wind turbines out here but not designed for this level of cold.
Brrrr
All the Best,
Jeff

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On another note. Looked out the window and someone I don’t know shoveled my front walk.
Did the neighbors too. No idea. Who it was .
Texas is a special place…

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All those people are suffering because the phoney politicians sold them green windmills that stop working when ice develops on them. Meanwhile the energy tzar is flying around in his own jet.

It’s a sad situation.

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Temperature this morning INSIDE my home was 35F we endured 36 hours without power the most useful light was the Zanflare T1 lantern that I could take and hang from the fan cord and light up the room.

We also used Zebralight, Sofirn, Emisar, Fireflies, BLF Q8 during the outage, Good thing I had charged ALL my batteries in 3 chargers I had, and a couple of 20,000 mah powerbanks. Also had a dozen emergency candles.

The problem was the electricity to power the furnace, but managed using the LP Gas stove to somewhat heat the home when I could monitor it (Wish I had ordered the Fireplace when I built the home)

Today the power was restored for 4 hours then we lost it for 3 hours, now its back again. but you never know.

I am mad at the incompetence of the people in charge and the hypocrisy to tell us to conserve energy while they have us in the dark but the big empty buildings downtown all lit up like Christmas trees. I hope heads roll over this fiasco!

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jeff51 wrote:
On another note. Looked out the window and someone I don’t know shoveled my front walk.
Did the neighbors too. No idea. Who it was .
Texas is a special place…

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Yep, after Katrina we , wife and 4 adult kids 2 x chain saws, loaded in our old ford truck and for weeks we cut trees and cleared strangers drive ways and roads. At the end of the day we took showers outside in swim wear, using a kitchen pot, with water I filled in a 14ft aluminum boat, then ate MRE’s and went to bed.
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All those people are suffering because the phoney politicians sold them green windmills that stop working when ice develops on them. Meanwhile the energy tzar is flying around in his own jet.

It’s a sad situation.

It is a sad situation but your characterization is fundamentally dishonest. For one thing Texas has one of the least regulated power grids in the country. I used to be in the Utility industry and it is a complex problem. Blaming it on the politicians and windmills is not only dishonest but just plain wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/feb/16/natural-gas-not-wind-turb...

If you actually look at the amount and type of power off line saying that the problem is frozen windmills is just silly.

FWIW, windmills up here work in far more cold than what Texas is going through. Not sure if the economics make sense for Texas but you can be sure that will be looked at for the future. Lots of trade offs in making such an amazingly complex system work. I have been using wind generated power this last week that was made in below zero weather. It is done but that doesn’t mean that anyone thought that it was wise to spend the money to have systems like that in Texas.

People have no clue what an amazing human achievement the power grid is. I still remember a storm 35 years ago that took out about 2/3 of our system. I walked the lines from sun up to sun down and then spend the evening getting screamed at for being such a terrible company. As if we could control the weather. We could have probably built a system that could have withstood most of that but no one would be able to afford to hook into it so what would have been the point?

Hoping for the best for everyone in Texas.

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And the power is off again… Angry

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Weve been experiencing rolling blackouts for about a day and a half. Luckily for us, its a 30off 45on type deal(varies). Some friends about 30 miles south were getting 15on 45off for a bit, but since yesterday theyve been getting nothing. Fortunately they already have a wood stove so theyre all set.

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You guys should be up to the mid 60’s by saturday.

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jeff51 wrote:
On another note. Looked out the window and someone I don’t know shoveled my front walk. Did the neighbors too. No idea. Who it was . Texas is a special place…

Yeh, someone on this block has a snowblower or at least electric shovel, and does a quick walk up’n‘down the block clearing a path. Rather nice, I think.

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zoulas wrote:
All those people are suffering because the phoney politicians sold them green windmills that stop working when ice develops on them. Meanwhile the energy tzar is flying around in his own jet.

It’s a sad situation.

Yeah, just wait ‘til the greenies have the whole country “electrified”. Not enough power in “green” California to avoid rolling blackouts and the like, but yeah, let’s ban gas/diesel cars and shove battery cars on everyone. Hell, even gasoline lawnmowers and generators will be banned nationwide, too. Wheee!

Your “powerwall” might keep your house going a few days if you’re lucky, but then what? Lose power for weeks, and no hot water, no heat, no nothing. No (legal) generator or (legal) fuel to run it, after all.

Man, I feel sorry for all those deaths that’ll result. Oh, but it’ll be the powerco’s fault, right? After all, they should bury all the powerlines underground yet keep rates down. Guess some save-the-earth types will volunteer to do all that work for free, eh?

I’m telling ya, prepare now. Buy those gennies while they’re still legal. And lots and lots of fuel.

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AlexGT wrote:
Temperature this morning INSIDE my home was 35F we endured 36 hours without power the most useful light was the Zanflare T1 lantern that I could take and hang from the fan cord and light up the room.

Yeh, that little critter’s a hoot, ain’t it? Had that for light over our Christmas blackout.

Inside didn’t get that cold, only the 50s, but then again ConEd kicked ass and worked around the clock to get power back on in something like 20hrs.

It was especially cold and windy that day and night, though. One more day and it probably would’ve been down in the 30s inside, too.

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We also used Zebralight, Sofirn, Emisar, Fireflies, BLF Q8 during the outage, Good thing I had charged ALL my batteries in 3 chargers I had, and a couple of 20,000 mah powerbanks. Also had a dozen emergency candles.

No candles (but I know I got a bunch of ‘em in the basement), but same. All cells topped off by default, buncha powerbanks to supplement.

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The problem was the electricity to power the furnace, but managed using the LP Gas stove to somewhat heat the home when I could monitor it (Wish I had ordered the Fireplace when I built the home)

Tried the stove trick, didn’t really work beyond the kitchen. LOL

Wondering if the furnace can take DC instead of AC from the transformer. 12V or 24V, I forgot. That should be a decent backup, just in case. Have house heat, too.

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You guys should be up to the mid 60’s by saturday.

That’s a relief, if they can hang on a bit longer.

Must feel like a “Twilight Zone” episode out there…

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Your “powerwall” might keep your house going a few days if you’re lucky, but then what? Lose power for weeks, and no hot water, no heat, no nothing. No (legal) generator or (legal) fuel to run it, after all.

Man, I feel sorry for all those deaths that’ll result. Oh, but it’ll be the powerco’s fault, right? After all, they should bury all the powerlines underground yet keep rates down. Guess some save-the-earth types will volunteer to do all that work for free, eh?

Basic math is that about 10% of the problem is from “green” energy problems. It is actually the dirty fossil fuel plants that are failing much more significantly and predictably. But it sure sounds better to ignore the actual math and blame the green boogie man. Deliberate and successful manipulation of facts to promote fossil fuels. Who is going to actually look at generation tables and do the math anyway? Who is going to actually read the ercot reports? Certainly the problem is mostly just from frozen wind turbans. Never mind the actual numbers don’t back that up.

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I hope everyone in Texas can do their best by this weekend, when this terrible weather should be over.

It's a very sad situation.  :(

Hang in there, Texas!  :THUMBS-UP:

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I’m saying the electric grid itself is already strained and near maximum capacity. Upgrades were put off year after yer after year ‘cause ratepayers didn’t want to spring for the cost. Line are above ground ‘cause it’s cheaper and easier and faster to string cables along poles vs digging trenches and burying cables.

Point being, transformers are blowing up on hot summer days when demand peaks, ice-storms and winds and falling trees knock down cables, and so on. Nothing to do with wind “turbans” or solar panels or coal-burning powerplants, but the infrastructure itself.

That’s an assload of eggs in one crumbling antiquated basket, that all the greenies are pushing to overload even more with everyone driving Teslas and Bolts, and houses being heated exclusively by electricity.

Even here (not sure if this is law yet, but it’s definitely in the works), but new construction of private houses is being forbidden the use of oil or propane or NG for heat, ie, electricity only. Are they retarded?

I had a blackout, yet was still able to cook and have hot water for a good long hot soak to warm up. If everything were all electricity, I’d have nothing, zero. I wouldn’t even be able to make coffee for myself. What am I supposed to do, crack open a bag of Kingsford and heat water on a hibachi indoors? I can imagine how many fires and cases of CO poisoning would result…

Point being, I’m not “blaming” turbines or solar panels (or coal-fired plants or nuke plants, for that matter). I’m blaming the greenies who are just technically and scientifically illiterate, pushing these feelgood ideas without thinking them through, or just plain without thinking. It’s like routing a fully-loaded 50-car freight train over the Cassandra Crossing. It just ain’t able to handle it. The infrastructure is not there. And what is there is inadequate.

Oh, and I can just imagine a directed cyberattack on the grid… right at times like this when the entire country’s seeing record cold (or heat).

Ho boy…

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Yep, don’t mess with Texas. Says so right in the Bible…

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They should put some heating system on the wind turbines.It can be self powered

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zoulas wrote:
All those people are suffering because the phoney politicians sold them green windmills that stop working when ice develops on them. Meanwhile the energy tzar is flying around in his own jet.

It’s a sad situation.

It is a sad situation but your characterization is fundamentally dishonest. For one thing Texas has one of the least regulated power grids in the country. I used to be in the Utility industry and it is a complex problem. Blaming it on the politicians and windmills is not only dishonest but just plain wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/feb/16/natural-gas-not-wind-turb...

If you actually look at the amount and type of power off line saying that the problem is frozen windmills is just silly.

FWIW, windmills up here work in far more cold than what Texas is going through. Not sure if the economics make sense for Texas but you can be sure that will be looked at for the future. Lots of trade offs in making such an amazingly complex system work. I have been using wind generated power this last week that was made in below zero weather. It is done but that doesn’t mean that anyone thought that it was wise to spend the money to have systems like that in Texas.

People have no clue what an amazing human achievement the power grid is. I still remember a storm 35 years ago that took out about 2/3 of our system. I walked the lines from sun up to sun down and then spend the evening getting screamed at for being such a terrible company. As if we could control the weather. We could have probably built a system that could have withstood most of that but no one would be able to afford to hook into it so what would have been the point?

Hoping for the best for everyone in Texas.

I dont live in Teaxas. I am going by what they say on the news. Its not one news site, its all of them that say the same story.

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Does anyone know WHY the non-green power plants are under capacity right now today ?

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Does anyone know WHY the non-green power plants are under capacity right now today ?

This will explain most of it;
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-power-grid-failed-mostly-065217364.html

From the article;

“Some turbines did in fact freeze — though Greenland and other northern outposts are able to keep theirs going through the winter,” The Washington Post reports. “But wind accounts for just 10 percent of the power in Texas generated during the winter,” and the losses tied to thermal plants mostly “relying on natural gas dwarfed the dent caused by frozen wind turbines by a factor of five or six.” According to ERCOT, wind power generation is actually exceeding projections.

One nuclear reactor and several coal-fired plants went offline, but “Texas is a gas state,” Michael Webber, an energy resources professor at the University of Texas, told The Texas Tribune. And “gas is failing in the most spectacular fashion right now.” Instruments and other components at gas-fired power plants iced over, and “by some estimates, nearly half of the state’s natural gas production has screeched to a halt due to the extremely low temperatures,” as electric pumps lost power and uninsulated pipelines and gas wells froze, the Tribune reports.

After a 2011 winter storm knocked out power to about 3 million Texans, a federal report warned Texas the same grid debacle would happen again if it didn’t adequately weatherize its power infrastructure and increase fuel reserves — and reminded Texas that “many of those same warnings were issued after similar blackouts 22 years earlier and had gone unheeded,” The Associated Press reports.

“Upgrades were made following the 2011 winter storm,” The Texas Tribune notes, but “many Texas power generators have still not made all the investments necessary to prevent the sort of disruptions happening to the equipment.”

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The other thing that residents of Texas are screaming (about and rightly so) is why areas that have come back online are allowed to light large Corporate Buildings like Christmas when they are closed.

Never understood that crap anywhere, it’s like America saying “Look how effing cool we are, we will burn electric for no reason other than Vanity”
I always was raised to relate electric to water, you wouldn’t leave a sink faucet running after you used it and left the room, so why should you leave the electric “Tap” on when not needed?
Not talking security lights, talking unoccupied working/living spaces.
If we all give a little it makes a big difference on the Grid, not to mention lower bills for us all.

Texas appears to be unique in that it keeps it’s own power and therefore is isolated/shutoff to/from neighboring states which could help out if they were linked up to each others Grid but they are not.

Here’s an idea with those of us who have a long commute via car/truck. Charge powerbanks and flashlight batteries on drive and use them at home instead of AC lights.
Your vehicle produces more juice than it needs so it costs no more of fuel mileage and your flashlights at home have been saying “Use me , make me earn my keep”

It’s Win, WIn, WIN Smile

Enough for now, keep safe everyone and remember sharing a smile costs you nothing and makes you feel better too.

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It’s weird, Michigan is a “gas” state also. I don’t know what the ratio of NG vs Electric furnaces, but put it this way. I’ve never seen an electric furnace in a house in this state. And I remember 2 power outages in the last 30yrs. One was from ice and downed lines, and the other was a construction crew that cut a main line.

Muto wrote:
And “gas is failing in the most spectacular fashion right now.” Instruments and other components at gas-fired power plants iced over, and “by some estimates, nearly half of the state’s natural gas production has screeched to a halt due to the extremely low temperatures,

And this has never happened as far as I know. And I can guarantee Michigan has much colder temps on a normal basis than Texas has ever seen, including last Monday. It’s -13ºF right now.

I don’t know, maybe TX households only have electric heat pump furnaces which don’t work very well in temps under 50ºF, and not at all if electrical grid is down

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Ahh, there it is, “ it didn’t adequately weatherize its power infrastructure and increase fuel reserves “. Wink
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Now the blame falls on those responsible for not fixing a known problem. Wink
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Thanks Muto !!
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Muto wrote:
The other thing that residents of Texas are screaming (about and rightly so) is why areas that have come back online are allowed to light large Corporate Buildings like Christmas when they are closed.

Never understood that crap anywhere, it’s like America saying “Look how effing cool we are, we will burn electric for no reason other than Vanity”
I always was raised to relate electric to water, you wouldn’t leave a sink faucet running after you used it and left the room, so why should you leave the electric “Tap” on when not needed?
Not talking security lights, talking unoccupied working/living spaces.
If we all give a little it makes a big difference on the Grid, not to mention lower bills for us all.

Texas appears to be unique in that it keeps it’s own power and therefore is isolated/shutoff to/from neighboring states which could help out if they were linked up to each others Grid but they are not.

Here’s an idea with those of us who have a long commute via car/truck. Charge powerbanks and flashlight batteries on drive and use them at home instead of AC lights.
Your vehicle produces more juice than it needs so it costs no more of fuel mileage and your flashlights at home have been saying “Use me , make me earn my keep”

It’s Win, WIn, WIN Smile

Enough for now, keep safe everyone and remember sharing a smile costs you nothing and makes you feel better too.

I never saw a building where they purposely leave all the lights on.

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Global warming contributes to Texas cooling. I guess keeping the pipelines and wind turbines warm wasn’t even a consideration before this. I wonder how feasible it would be to prevent a repeat of this in the future? Maybe string up some Texas lumens lights around the important spots.

Good luck to everyone down there and stay safe. It seems like everyone in the country (and the world) is going to have a taste of Mother Nature’s wrath in their lifetime

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Muto wrote:
The other thing that residents of Texas are screaming (about and rightly so) is why areas that have come back online are allowed to light large Corporate Buildings like Christmas when they are closed.

Never understood that crap anywhere, it’s like America saying “Look how effing cool we are, we will burn electric for no reason other than Vanity”
I always was raised to relate electric to water, you wouldn’t leave a sink faucet running after you used it and left the room, so why should you leave the electric “Tap” on when not needed?
Not talking security lights, talking unoccupied working/living spaces.
If we all give a little it makes a big difference on the Grid, not to mention lower bills for us all.

Texas appears to be unique in that it keeps it’s own power and therefore is isolated/shutoff to/from neighboring states which could help out if they were linked up to each others Grid but they are not.

Here’s an idea with those of us who have a long commute via car/truck. Charge powerbanks and flashlight batteries on drive and use them at home instead of AC lights.
Your vehicle produces more juice than it needs so it costs no more of fuel mileage and your flashlights at home have been saying “Use me , make me earn my keep”

It’s Win, WIn, WIN Smile

Enough for now, keep safe everyone and remember sharing a smile costs you nothing and makes you feel better too.

I never saw a building where they purposely leave all the lights on.


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