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@Lojik wrote:
..The driver alone is a panty-dropper….

… But none of them have the swag of Fireflies…

Haha

And, as much as I love Hanks lights, you are right about that swagger, it finally pulled me in. Aesthetic beauty and performance, I’m not too worried about the complaints I hear. We will see.

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Dalamar wrote:
And states should all mandate the right to repair, not this corporatist “just throw it out and buy new one” nonsense

I 100% agree. Another reason I praise Hank so much. And Simon. You can literally order any single part that they have from them. I am ordering copper tail caps and titanium 18650 tubes from Hank to customize my existing and new lights. Everything and anything you want. In THIS hobby, that is the way it should be. Period. Or those are the businesses I support at least, no one has to do anything.

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Dalamar wrote:
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Sunnysunsun wrote:
It’s the E07 with the new buck driver and probably the same threads issue as all their new lights using that tube

No thread issues with my E12R

Same here. People are just finding the dumbest shit to knock Fireflies. My E12R is THEE literal shit.

Many other lights have super minor and trivial issues yet nobody brings them up like people like to do with Fireflies.

Fireflies hit nothing but home runs in their newest line-ups. And I don’t see that changing anytime soon with the even better direction they are going in. The driver alone is a panty-dropper, but the emitter options are killer too.

Don’t worry about Fireflies, so many top companies put out faulty lights here and there. The on only real issue I’ve seen in any new FF is someone’s LED’s weren’t turning on. That is a real and legitimate issue unlike the many people whining about nothing. But either way that’s just one of hundreds if not thousands already sold that has had that single issue. Anyway, if you do end up getting the rare bad light, FF will take care of it. And if they don’t, make sure you pay with PayPal and they got you protected.

Fireflies is a top company. If you look around you’ll find plenty of Hank lights or Sofirn’s or Convoy’s that have had random issues too. It is what it is with lights from China. But none of them have the swag of Fireflies, they just keep pushing the envelope and I love em for it. Fear not, chances are you’ll get an amazing light instead of a dud.

Fireflies poor communication and refusal to sell parts separately is never acceptable anywhere. Right to repair should be mandatory and universal. I also think I shouldn’t have to file or sand anything – certainly don’t need to with Hank lights, or even Convoy.
If their new USA dealer is going to cover for them repairs wise, then it’s a lot less bad. But I suspect they won’t.

The host thread issue is potentially massive. The threads on these new lights seem kinda poor. Once you wear them out the host is useless, and the host is the most expensive part of the light generally. Additionally – try replacing the oring on the nov-mu after taking the glass off. You’ll spend HOURS trying to get the end screwed back on with the oring staying put…It feels like they don’t want people to repair..

The only thing I’ll agree with you on is that MOST of their problems are just a minor annoyance. The ones above are NOT, and is literally what keeps them from getting the Hank Hype. I usually end up swapping batts in a few lights every camping trip, the one I use on coons only gets ~40 min runtime. I think it’s perfectly reasonable expectation for an aluminum host to last practically a lifetime. But with the new round of hosts, I have doubts.

EDIT: and don’t take it as knocking FF. I think Lumintop is even worse. I couldn’t attempt to contact them at all – fake email that bounces back at you. They won’t get a dime from me. FF’s contact problem is rubbing me in a very wrong way, but they’re also selling something a little more unique than Lumintop or other companies only catering to the low cri stupidity

Companies should strive to at least sell you the parts for repair, and tell you how not to kill USBC charging ports (because there is no standard in chargers etc). And states should all mandate the right to repair, not this corporatist “just throw it out and buy new one” nonsense

I really don’t have an issue with anything you said. You admitted that most of the issues are minor which is true. You can def feel they are a bit more serious than I think they are while knowing the issues are still minor.

As for the threads, I forgot who said it but someone explained that it would take easily thousands of spins to eventually break these threads, or any other really. And if it really was a worry, you can always just on-board charge and replace the battery hardly ever.

All this is reasonable to me, if it isn’t to you, I think that’s def your right. I’d say I have little peeves about every light, but I genuinely feel that’s to be expected with every company having slightly different philosophies.

I won’t defend poor communication. I wish that wasn’t the case as it is with 95% of Chinese companies, but again, that’s par for the course to me. I always get responses from FF, not right away but I always do. I’d say Hank and Simon (Convoy) are the better/best communicators.

Then, how can I not agree with our right to repair. That is pretty important and makes Simon and Hank all the better companies for it.

All that being said, ultimately my position after knowing all this, is that Fireflies is still the best company to buy from for my preferences. Maybe not the best at some other secondary things, but I don’t really expect that to be a need with every light. If it ever became an issue, I’ll have made sure to use PayPal so I’m somewhat protected, it may be a hassle but it will get taken care of.

If I had a perfect Hank light and a perfect Fireflies light, my experience has been that I would much more prefer my Fireflies. They are just unmatched in how lofty their goals are for high CRI lights. In that regard, they are unmatched and that is probably the most important thing to me after making sure I got a working light. I see you got plenty of FF lights so you are entitled to feel how you feel about them. To me, they are seriously just the greatest most envelope-pushing aesthetically beautiful lights on the market and I LOVE them for it. Their clear-ano lights might be my favorite.

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Artiet59 wrote:
@Lojik wrote:
..The driver alone is a panty-dropper….

… But none of them have the swag of Fireflies…

Haha

And, as much as I love Hanks lights, you are right about that swagger, it finally pulled me in. Aesthetic beauty and performance, I’m not too worried about the complaints I hear. We will see.

Not only are their lights beautiful, but the clear-ano just makes them even more amazing. Actually, I really love the sand E12R color and Matte-sandy feel too.

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Lojik</em> wrote: </div><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-2 even"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">Artiet59</em> wrote: </div><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-3 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">Lojik wrote:
..The driver alone is a panty-dropper….

… But none of them have the swag of Fireflies…

Haha

And, as much as I love Hanks lights, you are right about that swagger, it finally pulled me in. Aesthetic beauty and performance, I’m not too worried about the complaints I hear. We will see.

Not only are their lights beautiful, but the clear-ano just makes them even more amazing. Actually, I really love the sand E12R color and Matte-sandy feel too.
I am glad to hear it, I ordered to raw aluminum rot66 and sand e12r . I can’t wait.

Question- do you get order confirmation and/or shipping confirmation normally from FireFlies? I’ve read some people do and some don’t. I don’t really care as long as it’s normal. I have not received either after 3 days

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Artiet59 wrote:
Lojik</em> wrote: </div><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-3 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">Artiet59</em> wrote: </div><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-4 even"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">Lojik wrote:
..The driver alone is a panty-dropper….

… But none of them have the swag of Fireflies…

Haha

And, as much as I love Hanks lights, you are right about that swagger, it finally pulled me in. Aesthetic beauty and performance, I’m not too worried about the complaints I hear. We will see.

Not only are their lights beautiful, but the clear-ano just makes them even more amazing. Actually, I really love the sand E12R color and Matte-sandy feel too.
I am glad to hear it, I ordered to raw aluminum rot66 and sand e12r . I can’t wait.

Question- do you get order confirmation and/or shipping confirmation normally from FireFlies? I’ve read some people do and some don’t. I don’t really care as long as it’s normal. I have not received either after 3 days

I think I have gotten confirmation just once when I bought from the US warehouse. After that, no.

The ROT66 in Clear-ano is flames. It’s one of the best looking lights on the market. It seems retro but spacey/futuristic too. It’s easily the best looking sodacan light yet it’s still pretty tiny and fits perfectly in your hand while giving polished grenade vibes.

ROT66 and E12R are probably my favorite floody lights. (Both Nichia 219B’s). I think you’ll enjoy both of them.

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Man, your making me feel good about this decision, i was a little worried taking a shot with a brand i never did business with before. The clear ano and rot66 is was drew me in. Well the E07 did, but they are sold out everywhere in aluminum. (If you know of a place with an aluminum e07, please forward bc id buy one today). I had one ordered with Neal’s Gadgets, but he cancelled it because there was no stock, it was terrible Sick

Anyway, i have seen the rot66 around for the last year and never thought twice, and i always wanted the mf01s or d18. And finally it occurred to me that the ROT66 was a great mix of both those lights. I love 3×18650 platform (i had hk04 and it was perfect size), auxiliary led’s of course, and great emitter options. I don’t like 4×18650 too much, so in the last week i became obsessed to get the rot66. The e12r was a last minute choice, i was going to get the k9.3 (i am a noctigon fan of course), but the price of the e12r, the cool look, the driver type, and all the really well thought out features, i went e12r. I am pretty excited now. I also really want this new e07 to come out too though, i really want one. I edc a noctigon KR1 which is almost the same exact size, so i feel the e07 would be a welcome edc.

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I made a post here a few weeks ago with the original release dates and stats. ‘Course it’s been delayed since then, but there’s some info…

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One discovery I’ve made is that the head threads of my Nov-Mu can be screwed in fairly smoothly after a bit of a break in period. I believe this is from the springs compressing a bit from use. It also really helps if you unscrew the tail threads just a bit to give the springs a bit more room to expand.

I gave Jacky another call today so I’ll write some of the info I received here. Please note that my mandarin is rather rudimentary at best so I may have gotten some of the translation wrong/misunderstood what he said.

1. The T1R’s release looks like it’ll be delayed until July. This is because they’re having trouble getting the necessary chips for the driver from the US due to the chip shortage.

2. Jacky said the short tube will be available on their website tomorrow ($15) and it’ll come with a clip.

3. Their updated headlamp will be released in May. Jacky mentioned they’ll have an option similar to the Nov-MU with slightly fewer LEDs. My understanding is that it’ll use the new buck driver and there will be a mule option (E21As) available.

4. I mentioned to him that people weren’t so happy about him not answering emails and he said he was sorry and it is because he is very busy away from home for work. He’ll try to answer all emails but replies will be a bit slow.

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Any info about E07X?

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dropman wrote:
Any info about E07X?

We are all in waiting mood Big Smile

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i love you for posting that, and for FireFlies to finally release it! thanks atobe!

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MoreLumens wrote:
Updated headlamp sounds really nice. Something to wait and be excited again. Thumbs Up

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i have noticed recently (yesterday) with FF that it is really hard to make a LED decision, and even harder to not just order 2-3 lights Facepalm

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The LED decision is made even harder by listing the same option twice as they did in the link supplied by atobe 5 posts above.

SST20 NW 4000K 95CRI or
SST20 NW 4000K 95CRI

I wonder what I`ll get?

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Yes, that one got me too. I actually didn’t notice it the first time I looked at it. Because, you know, I opened and closed and walked away and opened the link again about a dozen times before deciding on an emitter I now regret. Ohwell, I feel I would’ve regretted any decision as I ideally would buy three of those lights. . I’ll just have to order another in July Big Smile

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I don’t want to derail the topic but FF did say they were going to make/sell a FF flashing kit like hank. Anyone heard/have updates on it?

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Confirmed their sst20 bin is FA4 (low duv, better than high like FB4…)

Favorite lights:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 200k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k 

 

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How does the FA4 bin compare to the SST20s in the MF01S (forgot the bin)? Bought mine when it came out and I’m not really a huge fan of the tint. It isn’t bad but can sometimes look green and is too warm for my liking. If I’m reading the datasheet correctly it seems like the FA4 should be even rosier that the FA3 which itself is meant to be a good tint.

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^ to piggyback that, does anyone know what the early fw3a had for sst20 4000k bin? mine were perfect IMO.

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Artiet59 wrote:
^ to piggyback that, does anyone know what the early fw3a had for sst20 4000k bin? mine were perfect IMO.

I think I read those were fa4. Never seen fa4 myself. Fa3 is almost on bbl

Favorite lights:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 200k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k 

 

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thank you, great to know.

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Heads up to anyone interested- I did get shipment notifications for all three lights I ordered from Oliver at FireFlies yesterday. So that was some peace of mind. Also, the new e07x shipped too.

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Really? Said my e07 pro will be in next month lol

Favorite lights:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 200k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k 

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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Well it shipped, it said it will take 15-35 days to come in. In my experience with bang good and neals is it will take 30 ish days too, like yours. Or are you saying they said it won’t ship until next month? Maybe it’s my emitter choice? I got sst20’s

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My order was sst20 too

Favorite lights:

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 4500k E21A

Fireflies NOV-MU 21 200k E21A

Fireflies ROT66 219B SW45 D220

Fireflies E07 Copper 219B SW45k? (odd/higher lumen bin with lower r9 and higher cct?)

Fireflies E07x Pro sst20 FA4 4000k 

 

CRI test dump https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcl_uOhgfpR4RSsa8F4b-UUVP9mkL6Cr...

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I just ordered a E12t from ff-light.com and worried as I’ve had no confirmation email, no reply to my email, and now my password won’t work and the ‘forgot password’ doesn’t send a replacement, but the money’s gone from my account. All very alarming!

The price includes £20 DHL to Europe and I wanted to get an idea of how long it might take to arrive.

Hearing from others on their experience might help put my mind at rest, assuming it was positive!

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Ranger-H wrote:
I just ordered a E12t from ff-light.com and worried as I’ve had no confirmation email, no reply to my email, and now my password won’t work and the ‘forgot password’ doesn’t send a replacement, but the money’s gone from my account. All very alarming!

The price includes £20 DHL to Europe and I wanted to get an idea of how long it might take to arrive.

Hearing from others on their experience might help put my mind at rest, assuming it was positive!


I am a new FireFlies customer. Ordered 4 lights from the this last month. I was worried as I did not get any correspondence for about 4-7 days from my orders being placed. I sent a couple emails and heard nothing.

I then got all 4 order confirmations over the course of 3 days in a row.

In my experience, hang tight. They will reach out. And they were really good about it. The confirmation email they sent seemed personalized, not generic. I’m in the US, and I a guy named Oliver sent my confirmations. May be different in the UK.

Update the thread based on what happens, but I shared (in this thread) the same thing you are going through, then I also shared that they did reach out to me.

Good luck!

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Dalamar wrote:
Really? Said my e07 pro will be in next month lol

Checking in- I obviously have been tracking my stuff, and I was wrong- my (2) e07x have not shipped. The email I had received was just the order confirmation. But I received those emails the same day or two I got two shipment notifications for the other 2 lights I ordered, so I just got excited and confused apparently.

So I’ve been meaning to come back on here and tell you, in case you were wondering why yours hadn’t shipped and mine did. My have not shipped yet either.

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