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CONVOY C8+ CSLNMI

I bought this from a local reseller, herein.
It came with no instructions on how to program it.
He is done with the sale once the money has changed hands.
Where can I find the manual?

btw ; the beam profile is WAY OFF

Edited by: eagleye on 03/28/2021 - 14:28
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Try here

1.Driver instructions:(4modes)

Now we offer another driver version, which has a simple 4 modes for switching, which is very suitable for ordinary users.

modes : 0.1%-3%-30%-100% max current output is 4800mA

Its biggest advantage is that no frequency can be seen in any mode, and there is temperature management.

It can control the flashlight temperature not to exceed 55 degrees Celsius,

If the flashlight temperature is below 55 degrees Celsius, it will output full current. If it is above 55 degrees Celsius, it will constantly adjust the current so that the flashlight will not overheat.

2.Driver instructions:(12groups)
It has the same temperature protection function as the 4modes version.Max current output is 4800mA.
It has 12groups ,following is the driver operation instructions.

1.click the switch to turn the flashlight on/off,tap the switch to select mode 2.if flashlight is turned on,tap the switch 20 times quickly to enter into config mode.(On a visual interface,as long as you click on an option, it means that the option is selected. The flashlight has no visual interface. It flashes to represent an option, and “tap the switch in the flashing process” means to select the option.) Option 1 (normal-flash 1 time + buzz-flash): tap the switch to enter into sub-option to select the mode group,If the user has no operation, the config mode will enter option 2.

1.1 (normal-flash 1 time) : tap the switch to select mode group 1 (0.1%, 1%, 10%, 35%, 100%, strobe, biking, battery-check
1.2 (normal-flash 2 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 2 (0.1%, 1%, 10%, 35%, 100%)
1.3 (normal-flash 3 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 3 (100%, 35%, 10%, 1%, 0.1%)
1.4 (normal-flash 4 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 4 (1%, 20%, 100%, strobe, biking, battery-check, SOS)
1.5 (normal-flash 5 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 5 (1%, 20%, 100%)
1.6 (normal-flash 6 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 6 (100%, 20%, 1%)
1.7 (normal-flash 7 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 7 (0.1%, 1%, 10%, 50%, strobe, biking, battery-check, SOS)
1.8 (normal-flash 8 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 8(0.1%, 1%, 10%, 50%)
1.9 (normal-flash 9 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 9 (50%, 10%, 1%, 0.1%)
1.10 (normal-flash 10 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 10 (1%, 10%, 35%, 100%)
1.11 (normal-flash 11 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 11 (100%, 20%, strobe)
1.12 (normal-flash 12 times) : tap the switch to select mode group 12(100% only)

Option 2 (normal-flash 2 times + buzz-flash): tap the switch to active the mode memory or inactive it,If the user has no operation,flashlight will enter into the last mode.
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I wish he had told me about the 4 modes. At this point, I am not into TAP dancing for my flashlights.
THANK YOU for the help, I guess this one is a loss especially with the lousy beam profile.

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You’re welcome.

Convoy puts 4/12 mode drivers in most of their lights if I’m not mistaken. 12M can be programmed to be just Off/100% if you like to keep it simple, but 4M looks as fixed one.

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Convoy doesn’t seem to be including any instructions . I guess they expect you to use the internet as a lot of products are doing. I like to print them out and put them into the box for future use.

What’s up with the beam? Maybe someone here can suggest a fix.

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eagleye wrote:
I wish he had told me about the 4 modes. At this point, I am not into TAP dancing for my flashlights. THANK YOU for the help, I guess this one is a loss especially with the lousy beam profile.

The Osram LEDs are 9/10 off center on almost every single brand that uses a reflector, this can’t be helped unless you purchase a model that’s specifically designed to use that specific LED. Convoy use their hosts for many many different setups, if you want everything done right then you need to spend more money. Convoy is more for those who want customizable options or can build/mod components themselves.

Even if the LED is perfectly centered the beam has oval looking rings around the LED, this is completely normal. These LED’s aren’t for shining on a wall, they’re for long range. I see this complaint far too often thinking it’s faulty when it’s normal.

Your seller may have only the 12 group version. Very rarely will a local seller stock both versions. The 12 group versions is far more superior to just 4 levels you can’t alter.

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Here’s my modified manual I bundle with the flashlight

https://www.dropbox.com/s/es7wxdmztite9fp/Convoy%20%28enlarged%20text%29...

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Funtastic wrote:
The Osram LEDs are 9/10 off center on almost every single brand that uses a reflector, this can’t be helped unless you purchase a model that’s specifically designed to use that specific LED. Convoy use their hosts for many many different setups, if you want everything done right then you need to spend more money. Convoy is more for those who want customizable options or can build/mod components themselves.

Simon’s got centering rings for his osrams that fit most of his reflectors. Strange that this would be the case.

Of course, the XHP70.2 in my Zebralight SC700d is slightly off-center. But there’s no centering ring, and the led to reflector size ratio means you can’t tell in the beam.

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Scallywag wrote:
Funtastic wrote:
The Osram LEDs are 9/10 off center on almost every single brand that uses a reflector, this can’t be helped unless you purchase a model that’s specifically designed to use that specific LED. Convoy use their hosts for many many different setups, if you want everything done right then you need to spend more money. Convoy is more for those who want customizable options or can build/mod components themselves.

Simon’s got centering rings for his osrams that fit most of his reflectors. Strange that this would be the case.

Of course, the XHP70.2 in my Zebralight SC700d is slightly off-center. But there’s no centering ring, and the led to reflector size ratio means you can’t tell in the beam.

I sell most variants of the Osram white flats and it’s very difficult to get it centered with the gaskets. If the gasket was square cut and fit perfectly around it, it would be great but the hole is slightly too big. With an LED so small it can pull off the mcpcb with little force so there’s no easy solution.

It was brought up in another thread that the screws push the mcpcb off center, I have to use a tool to try hold it while I tighten the screws. Sometimes I’ve found that even if it looks centered perfectly, when I tighten with the reflector it’s off to the side, then have to push it way off center to get it centered in the reflector. Very annoying on some of the C8+ hosts.

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I’d recommend getting pan head screws to replace the flat heads. I had to in my M2 because the factory flat heads forced the emitter of center. What then happened as an assembly is the emitter was ‘centered’ in the hole, but the reflected wasn’t sitting flat (off axis). This caused asymmetric artifacts. Pan heads allowed me to center it AND fully clamp it down.

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JaredM wrote:
I’d recommend getting pan head screws to replace the flat heads. I had to in my M2 because the factory flat heads forced the emitter of center. What then happened as an assembly is the emitter was ‘centered’ in the hole, but the reflected wasn’t sitting flat (off axis). This caused asymmetric artifacts. Pan heads allowed me to center it AND fully clamp it down.

Thank you for your input. Can you provide a link to the screws so I get the correct ones? This would be a great solution, I entirely forgot where I saw the comment and what the screws were

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Does the 4 mode comes with different driver than the 12 groups?

Anyone knows what driver they use for the 4 modes? And if it’s more efficient than 12 groups? As it says no frequency (pwm?).

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Tendou wrote:
Does the 4 mode comes with different driver than the 12 groups?

Anyone knows what driver they use for the 4 modes? And if it’s more efficient than 12 groups? As it says no frequency (pwm?).

Not sure about pwm but I’ve never noticed any.

Same driver used for both, just different firmware.

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Funtastic wrote:
Tendou wrote:
Does the 4 mode comes with different driver than the 12 groups?

Anyone knows what driver they use for the 4 modes? And if it’s more efficient than 12 groups? As it says no frequency (pwm?).

Not sure about pwm but I’ve never noticed any.

Same driver used for both, just different firmware.

The no frequency puzzles me.Is the c8g SST40 more efficient than c8+?
As I read c8g have better regulation compared to 12 groups c8+?

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looking forward to that ASTROLUX thrower that mimics the T9R.

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Tendou wrote:

The no frequency puzzles me.Is the c8g SST40 more efficient than c8+?
As I read c8g have better regulation compared to 12 groups c8+?

The Convoy’s drivers for SST40 (both 4 modes and 12 groups) don’t use PWM. That means better regulation and efficiency at modes below 100% than an equivalent 7135-based driver. That also avoids black lines on cameras.

On Lumeniac’s updated review the C8G regulation IMHO doesn’t look significantly better or worse than the M21A with SST40 or the equivalent C8+. Nobody posted pictures of the updated driver, so we aren’t sure, but efficiency looks worse than the SP35 buck driver. He compares it against an 8*7135 C8+ with XP-L HI but the XP-L HI has higher forward voltage than the SST40 so it’s natural that regulation with a linear (or buck) driver will be worse.

I don’t know why we are talking about the SST40 in this thread, but the Osram white flats have similar foward voltage to the SST40.

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I sanded down the centering ring in my Osram C8 to focus it better. It has the petals around the hotspot, but they are mostly even, instead of on one side of the hotspot like it was out of the box.

If you want the throw of the Osram emitter with a perfect beam you need one of the lights with that fancy TIR optic that Acebeam uses on the E10, and L17.

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Funtastic wrote:
JaredM wrote:
I’d recommend getting pan head screws to replace the flat heads. I had to in my M2 because the factory flat heads forced the emitter of center. What then happened as an assembly is the emitter was ‘centered’ in the hole, but the reflected wasn’t sitting flat (off axis). This caused asymmetric artifacts. Pan heads allowed me to center it AND fully clamp it down.

Thank you for your input. Can you provide a link to the screws so I get the correct ones? This would be a great solution, I entirely forgot where I saw the comment and what the screws were

M2.5 x ~4mm long. Philips pan head. Thread pitch is 0.45mm I do believe.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-M2-5×4mm-Phillips-Stainless-Fasteners/dp/...

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is the CONVOY M2 a new torch?
I saw one on YOUTUBE and it seemed to be an introductory video.
I have the L21 and the C8+, now I want the M2.

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eagleye wrote:
is the CONVOY M2 a new torch? I saw one on YOUTUBE and it seemed to be an introductory video. I have the L21 and the C8+, now I want the M2.

It certainly isn’t new, but new LED choices get added frequently

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haze;

Will these be the same instructions for the CONVOY KW CULPM1 TG 8 amp?

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haze;

Will these be the same instructions for the CONVOY KW CULPM1 TG 8 amp?

Yes, same thing

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ggf31416 wrote:
Tendou wrote:

The no frequency puzzles me.Is the c8g SST40 more efficient than c8+?
As I read c8g have better regulation compared to 12 groups c8+?

The Convoy’s drivers for SST40 (both 4 modes and 12 groups) don’t use PWM. That means better regulation and efficiency at modes below 100% than an equivalent 7135-based driver. That also avoids black lines on cameras.

On Lumeniac’s updated review the C8G regulation IMHO doesn’t look significantly better or worse than the M21A with SST40 or the equivalent C8+. Nobody posted pictures of the updated driver, so we aren’t sure, but efficiency looks worse than the SP35 buck driver. He compares it against an 8*7135 C8+ with XP-L HI but the XP-L HI has higher forward voltage than the SST40 so it’s natural that regulation with a linear (or buck) driver will be worse.

I don’t know why we are talking about the SST40 in this thread, but the Osram white flats have similar foward voltage to the SST40.

Thank you!
I bought the 4 modes version. But it’s too simple. Should have tried the 12 groups version.

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Is there a way to SMOOTH RAMP this and the L21A?

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Has anyone ever had their C8+ just flash when they attempt to hit 100%

I have a OEM NCR18650B inside it and it just flashes when I hit 100%, The beam doesn’t stay on.

Thank you very much,

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DarthBill wrote:
Has anyone ever had their C8+ just flash when they attempt to hit 100%

I have a OEM NCR18650B inside it and it just flashes when I hit 100%, The beam doesn’t stay on.

Thank you very much,


Either the battery is too weak to power the light at 100% so it’s voltage drops below the low voltage protection threshold and the driver reacts by turning down/off, or if the battery is protected it might be the protection circuit kicking in for the same reason.
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