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Switch Blade

Are they still illegal? Is there any market for them or just in the movies?

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I have two boker kalashnikovs and a microtech utx. Here in Florida you need a concealed license to put them in your pocket. The microtech defiantly comes in handy when I’m fishing and only have one hand to cut line. Also it has the m390 steel and I have yet to sharpen it after almost 2 years.

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It depends on where you live.

I think in California, they're legal if the blade is under 2 inches long.

I prefer larger knives, so I get assisted openers.  :THUMBS-UP:

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is a switchblade an “out-the-front” type?

there is market for EVERYthing.

legality depends on the laws
of your country/city/etc.

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Il. Repealed switchblade ban in 2017. The caveat is to carry one you must have a valid FOID card. Firearm Owner Identification Card. Have been carrying Microtech LUDT daily for about a year now.

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They’re legal here in Florida, although Miami plays a little shenanigans with them. Since I have my concealed carry permit, I’m golden.

I have a few WWII style lever locks from both German Boker and Hubertus, a Speedlock II from Boker, a Paragon, a Bitchmade AFO 9000, and a Robbie Daulton California.

They’re more ‘fidget spinners’ for me.

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turkeydance wrote:
is a switchblade an “out-the-front” type?

there is market for EVERYthing.

legality depends on the laws
of your country/city/etc.

Yeah, anything that is ‘spring assisted’ is a switchblade in many jurisdictions.

OTF: out the front definitely qualifies, lol.

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There called OTF now, out the front. There legal here in Nevada for open or concealed carry. And to answer question, there is a big market for them. Benchmade, Piranha, Microtech, Guardian Tactical, Hogue and Boker to name a few make OTF knifes. I want the Guardian Tactical Recon-040 but 380 dollars is a lot to drop on one knife.

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Majoroverkill wrote:
There called OTF now, out the front.
There are switchblades that are not OTF. OTF means exactly what it means, the blade comes Out The Front. A switchblade could still have a hinged blade mechanism instead.
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Majoroverkill wrote:
There called OTF now, out the front.
There are switchblades that are not OTF. OTF means exactly what it means, the blade comes Out The Front. A switchblade could still have a hinged blade mechanism instead.

Yes, they are called spring assist now, I own a few from Boker. The Term Switchblade is not common now for legal reasons. Sure you can still find and buy switchblades but they are now called OTF or spring assist unless you are buying antiques or collectables.

Switchblade, a knife with a blade that springs out from the handle when a button is pressed.

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I’d love to have a ballistic knife… just because.

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Switch blades and spring assisted are different. A spring assisted knife needs to be opened by acting on the blade itself. A switchblade has a toggle or button that releases the blade.

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Check out blade forums. Search for autos and fom there you’ll fall off a cliff into another world of happy, wallet thinning hobbying

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Jabe1 wrote:
Switch blades and spring assisted are different. A spring assisted knife needs to be opened by acting on the blade itself. A switchblade has a toggle or button that releases the blade.

Yes, you are correct, but that fact doesn’t mean that some jurisdictions don’t classify some spring assisted knives as ‘switchblades.’

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Here in WA state, they are not legal in any size. A knife must be manual opening. An OTF DA knife or automatic knife, aka. Switchblade, is not legal in a lot of places unless you are LEO, military, or other first responder. In Oregon, they are legal to own (as far as I know).

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I’m guessing zoulas isn’t asking about Victoria, Australia but just in case:

Control of Weapons Regulations 2011 wrote:

Schedule 3: Prohibited weapons

1. Flick knife, being a knife designed or adapted so that the blade is concealed when folded or recessed into the handle and which opens by gravity or centrifugal force or by any pressure applied to a button, spring or device in or attached to the handle of the knife.

Source: https://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/in-force/statutory-rules/control-weap...

The Control of Weapons Act 1990 allows for certain exemptions to the restrictions on prohibited weapons but don’t think they’re intended for randos who just want a switchblade. Smile

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Legal where I live (arkansas) but besides being a fire fighter I’ve carried one for years because I could even when they were illegal for non emergency personal.

My daily carry is a benchmade OTF in my back pocket, a boker strike (IMHO better than the kalashnikov) in my front pocket, and a factory buck 110 auto on my belt.

Personally to me OTF is what I call a switchblade. I have some old Italian side opening which back in the day was what was called switchblades but I think the times have changed. Side opening to me are just and auto knife. I know where any “switchblade” is illegal anything auto is pretty much called switchblade. Just like any anti constitutional state any pea shooter is some evil killing devil device.

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I cant imagine the thought process that made a switch blade type knife illegal. It must be the same idiots that banned high capacity magazines. Meanwhile there is no limit as to how many you can carry with you. Now that’s keeping Americans safe.

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zoulas wrote:
I cant imagine the thought process that made a switch blade type knife illegal. It must be the same idiots that banned high capacity magazines. Meanwhile there is no limit as to how many you can carry with you. Now that’s keeping Americans safe.

It stems back to the 50s or 60s when every bad guy in hollywood always had a switchblade. Karens all over banned together and pushed local governments to pass BS laws without even knowing what or why they were banning stuff. Just like the gun bans they are working on now. Half the idiots pushing for it have never even been in the same room as what they are against much less know anything about it.

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Most of my blades are OTF knives. I also keep a Buck 110 auto around. But I find dual action out the front knives- blade shoots out when you press forward and retracts when you switch it back, are the most handy and safe knives to use. I’ve never got into the really high end stuff. But I have purchaced quite a few Lightning OTFs and given most of them away as gifts. If you’ve never used a dual action OTF, the blade isn’t under any tension to open till you put that tension on it with the button. Kind of like a rubber band isn’t under tension till you start pulling it back. But I find it much safer to use because I can retract the blade instantly with one hand when it’s not needed. The Buck 110 auto is not a dual action , and could be considered more dangerous to use if not used properly. A spring is kept under tension until a button is pressed. The blade slaps open with a satisfying _snik _. Anyways like others have said, look into it if you are interested but they can be another rabbit hole.

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Legality depends on the jurisdiction. By state or city. Texas used to be quite restrictive on blade length, fixed or folding, and assisted opening.
Change that a few years back (9/13), now anything goes – at the state level anyway. Spears are now OK!

The outlawing of “switchblades” is interesting. An article in Blade:
https://blademag.com/knife-history/why-are-switchblades-illegal

I also read someplace, that since this was the weapon of choice among an immigrant group, it was felt that denying them was a way to prove they were undesirables.

I like the concept of OTF knives. I’ve just never seen one that wasn’t too fat or had what seems like poor support with the blade extended.
All the Best,
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jeff51 wrote:
I like the concept of OTF knives. I’ve just never seen one that wasn’t too fat or had what seems like poor support with the blade extended.
All the Best,
Jeff

I have wondered about that myself. But due to legality issues, I have yet to own one.

I used to carry a folder that was legal in the city I lived in at the time, but 0.25” too long in the city I was attending college. (I think – maybe it was the other way around? It was a decade ago…). I asked a friend that was a LEO and he said they never check that kind of thing unless you’re already in trouble.

At least we haven’t restricted locking blades yet here. IMO that’s an important safety feature.

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At least we haven’t restricted locking blades yet here. IMO that’s an important safety feature.

Oh, it’s safe… for criminals!

Ban, ban, ban, ban, ban…

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Scallywag wrote:
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I like the concept of OTF knives. I’ve just never seen one that wasn’t too fat or had what seems like poor support with the blade extended.
All the Best,
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I have wondered about that myself. But due to legality issues, I have yet to own one.

I used to carry a folder that was legal in the city I lived in at the time, but 0.25” too long in the city I was attending college. (I think – maybe it was the other way around? It was a decade ago…). I asked a friend that was a LEO and he said they never check that kind of thing unless you’re already in trouble.

At least we haven’t restricted locking blades yet here. IMO that’s an important safety feature.


I don’t get the “NO LOCK BLADES!” thing.
With the UK basically banning almost everything, I guess it makes sense.
But a lock blade doesn’t seem to be more of an attack tool than a regular folder of the same lenght.
But it sure is a heck of a lot safer when being used for something other than cutting vegetables.
Which, I guess, is soon to be illegal in the nanny states…
All the Best,
Jeff
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Scallywag wrote:
jeff51 wrote:
I like the concept of OTF knives. I’ve just never seen one that wasn’t too fat or had what seems like poor support with the blade extended.
All the Best,
Jeff

I have wondered about that myself. But due to legality issues, I have yet to own one.

I used to carry a folder that was legal in the city I lived in at the time, but 0.25” too long in the city I was attending college. (I think – maybe it was the other way around? It was a decade ago…). I asked a friend that was a LEO and he said they never check that kind of thing unless you’re already in trouble.

At least we haven’t restricted locking blades yet here. IMO that’s an important safety feature.

The knife laws in Canada is weird pretty much everything is legal besides “gravity assisted” and “switch” opening knives…. I used to carry what was essentially a folding pocket sword used the thing to dismantle boxes.

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All knives , except ballistic, are legal in Ohio . I’ve been falling down the rabbit hole for awhile now . However our laws wording is … well messed up . Even a small penknife in your pocket can be labeled a concealed weapon if you tell law enforcement it could be used in self defense if needed. That’s why we only have work knives here ! Wink

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Rdubya18 wrote:
All knives , except ballistic, are legal in Ohio . I’ve been falling down the rabbit hole for awhile now . However our laws wording is … well messed up . Even a small penknife in your pocket can be labeled a concealed weapon if you tell law enforcement it could be used in self defense if needed. That’s why we only have work knives here ! Wink

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Strange laws there like Australia. Shocked
You can open carry any knife in Mississippi. Evil
Minors and felons may not own bowie, dirk, butcher, or switchblade.
Not at many government workplaces or employer’s rules.
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Lightbringer wrote:
Scallywag wrote:
At least we haven’t restricted locking blades yet here. IMO that’s an important safety feature.

Oh, it’s safe… for criminals!

Ban, ban, ban, ban, ban…

Yes, criminals need to be safe so they can work in piece.

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Back to the OP.
Playing with OTF knives is quite satisfying. But I find the blade styles of side opening knives more to my liking.
I don’t find, IMHO, that a spring assisted side opening knife (the classic switchblade) all that more useful than a side opener with a bumpy thingy that allows the knife to be opened with a flick of the finger. These are often known as Flippers.

It’s the little lever looking thing that sticks out of the bottom of the handle when closed and is seen at 90 degrees to the blade when open.

It also makes for peace of mind when considering a powerful spring open blade carried in the pocket.
I know many are safe, but man oh man, would a 3” razor popping open in you pocket make your day…
A “Switchblade” You Pusha da’ button, Outa she come!

And an OTF which is classified as a Switchblade in most cases:

All the Best,
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I hate spring-assisted because they make closing knives much more annoying.

Double-action OTF means “lots of things that can break” and their blades aren’t as suited to what I use a knife for.

Both seem like great ways to cut myself accidentally anyway.

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i agree with BurningPlayd0h….

the spring assisted OTF or otherwise knives i have owned have never lasted long.
sooner or later, they always/always open unexpectedly. maybe it is me.
anyway, i carry Spyderco’s with the thumbhole.
opening one is “automatic” enough for me.

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