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Just curious, how fast does Nealsgadgets ship out these days?

It’s been quite some time (probably over a year) since I last ordered from Neal.

Ordered & paid FWAA last May 1, but the order still has not shipped out yet.

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Order number? I ask for you.

d_t_a wrote:
Just curious, how fast does Nealsgadgets ship out these days? It's been quite some time (probably over a year) since I last ordered from Neal. Ordered & paid FWAA last May 1, but the order still has not shipped out yet.

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Got mine today, all I can say is I love the SST20 4000k version… Still learning the changes to software, but really welcome the autolock feature as all of my FW’s have that flashed on them, be if V1 or V2. I cannot believe how small it really is, I knew it would be small, but still WOW.

Now, do I do 219b sw45k’s in it???

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Does anybody know many amps this pulls on turbo? Is it just as much as the battery will provide? I bought a 4 pack of the Shockli 3A 1000mah 14500’s a year ago when they were the best ones available – I only have one 14500 light, and would like to use the Shockli’s I have in this, but if the max output is gonna be super low with the 3A cells compared to the newer 10A 14500’s, I’m not sure if its worth it to buy more 14500’s for one more light…. The ones I have are button top, so they might be too long anyway / bend the driver springs…

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pioneer24 wrote:
Does anybody know many amps this pulls on turbo? Is it just as much as the battery will provide? I bought a 4 pack of the Shockli 3A 1000mah 14500’s a year ago when they were the best ones available – I only have one 14500 light, and would like to use the Shockli’s I have in this, but if the max output is gonna be super low with the 3A cells compared to the newer 10A 14500’s, I’m not sure if its worth it to buy more 14500’s for one more light…. The ones I have are button top, so they might be too long anyway / bend the driver springs…

Yeah it’s a FET driver, so it’ll pull as much as it can. I wouldn’t call 3A super low for a light this size, you’ll be able to use turbo a good while longer. You’ll get a lot more output for a lot less time with the 10A cell though.

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pioneer24 wrote:
Does anybody know many amps this pulls on turbo? Is it just as much as the battery will provide? I bought a 4 pack of the Shockli 3A 1000mah 14500’s a year ago when they were the best ones available – I only have one 14500 light, and would like to use the Shockli’s I have in this, but if the max output is gonna be super low with the 3A cells compared to the newer 10A 14500’s, I’m not sure if its worth it to buy more 14500’s for one more light…. The ones I have are button top, so they might be too long anyway / bend the driver springs…

Yeah it’s a FET driver, so it’ll pull as much as it can. I wouldn’t call 3A super low for a light this size, you’ll be able to use turbo a good while longer. You’ll get a lot more output for a lot less time with the 10A cell though.

Thanks for the input! I actually pulled up the review for the older black Shockli cells I have, and it looks like they perform well up to about 5 amps – this might actually be a good balance of runtime and brightness then, assuming the FET will pull 5 amps? How does the FET regulate how much current its pulling i.e. how does it “know” the max current to pull from a cell, say 3-5A for mine, vs 10A for a 10A cell? I think I’ll order one and try it out

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The FET does not know. It is a relationship of cell, circuit path and led resistances that determines the Amp draw. The lower the path resistance, the more current will flow. Take a look at Ohms law.

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FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
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Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
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mattlward wrote:
The FET does not know. It is a relationship of cell, circuit path and led resistances that determines the Amp draw. The lower the path resistance, the more current will flow. Take a look at Ohms law.

I’m familiar with ohms law and use it when building vape coils, but I believe the FET is playing some role in regulating the amp draw, or at least limiting it. If the amp draw was only dictated by the LED resistance and battery voltage, like a mechanical vape mod, then you’d have low-amp-rated batteries venting and exploding in flashlights often, and I don’t think this ever happens with enthusiast lights? As well, since FET lights produce higher lumens with higher amp-rated batteries, there’s got to be something else at play here? If a FET light is trying to draw 15 amps from a 3A cell, the battery would likely vent if not for the heat of the light triggering thermal stepdown – maybe its the thermal stepdown that acts as a safeguard?

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Got mine about a week and a half ago and I love it so far.  Neal shipped it quickly, about 12 days from placing the order to the central US, and about half of that time it was in USPS possession - they took forever to move it the rest of the way to me. 

 

I need to clean the board and optics but the emitters and soldering/wires look fine...lots of flux residue and some dust, though.  The color on mine is a little disappointing being on the blue side of grey and a different feel/texture than the first FW3A batch.  Switch feels pretty decent really, tactile but a bit mushy on the edges.  I can't seem to make it catch or do anything weird, which I'm glad about after all of the switch button woes the last couple years.  The H10 cells are definitely better in this light than the gold 1000mAh.  Clip is pretty well formed and finished and I really like the cigar ring - cigar ring is going to stay on the light (I wish it were black in color, something besides bright white).  SST 4000K is very nice at all levels although a tad warmer than I usually like.  After seeing pics of the 219C 5000K I might order one of those also.  I don't think that I dislike Anduril 2 - still getting used to the changes and missed the development thread - but I think I like the original a little better.  Once I realized the division between the shipped-as Simple mode and the Advanced mode, I started to warm up to it more.  Be careful with the skinny little o-ring on the command tube if you remove it.  I sliced a thin sliver from mine when reinserting it before smearing a little grease there - easy to fail to seat the tube all the way if you aren't aware.  I hope they bring out the turbo glow gasket for this one. 

 

All in all I'm really pleased with this so far.  Burned a napkin at work...coworker ordered one immediately.  I hesitated to order this because although I really appreciate the collaboration that we've had with Lumintop, I seem to get a high failure rate with them and the QC and other issues of late have made me feel like I'm taking a higher calculated risk when I get one of their lights now.  Currently awaiting the outcome of their convoluted warranty/communication on a driver-dead ODL20C purchased from Banggood, and it's looking like I may end up holding the short end of the stick on this one.  But the FW3A has been fantastic and I hope this FWAA follows suit over time.

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yeah the color is a bit more blue compared to my group buy fw3a.. but i dont complain i think it looks good either way.

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Something I observed on my FWAA:

  • Thermal regulation is acting WAY too late, regardless how low the threshold is set. I set e.g. 45°C for stepdown but on turbo mode it’s getting beyond 70°C before actually stepping down. Thermal sensor was calibrated properly, of course.
  • If the flashlight gets warm (> 40°C surface temperature) there’s no way of getting back from Turbo. 2 clicks do nothing, I can only turn off. As long as the flashlight is still handwarm or cold, there’s no problem cycling between Turbo and Ceiling.
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Anyone got any idea when the XPG3s will be back in stock?

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Did anyone else get a “pinky” Nichia 4000K version already?
Or not so much?

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Hyperion wrote:
Anyone got any idea when the XPG3s will be back in stock?

I also really need to know that !!!

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why would anyone want xp g3 emitter? arent those crappy… seems not a good choice imo.

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I’d swap in 5700K 90cri lh351d Wink OR even luxeon HL2X in 5700 90cri. I have ten Im not using. Theyre perfect for a 14500 triple

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Is there ANY way of getting to true turbo while in Simple UI?

Just discovered this wonderful addiction.

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Is there ANY way of getting to true turbo while in Simple UI?

I dont think u can ? maybe if u reflash the driver perhaps? but the light goes insane hot on that mode if not careful u can burn yourself.. i will use simple mode for now…

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MascaratumB wrote:
Did anyone else get a “pinky” Nichia 4000K version already? Or not so much?

I got a slightly pink 219c 4000k.
It looks better than the SST-20 4000k I also got, especially at lower outputs.

I’ll be keeping the 219c as is!

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I ordered a Nichia one since I have a ton of SST-20 lights… I have a Lumintop IYP365 with a really good tinted 4000k Nichia so I was hoping they’d use the same bin. Mine hasn’t shipped yet, it’s been “unfulfilled” for a week.

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My SST20 4000k took 16days from order to doorstep. Beautiful tint……. love it. Ordered 5 Vapcell H10, was only sent 2 but was credited $15 for the three that I didnt get. Not sure what happened there but Im still happy. Thanks freeme!

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GreenLights wrote:
Is there ANY way of getting to true turbo while in Simple UI?

I think you just set the top of the simple ramp to 150. I think it even comes that way out of the box.
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GreenLights wrote:
Is there ANY way of getting to true turbo while in Simple UI?
I think you just set the top of the simple ramp to 150. I think it even comes that way out of the box.

Out-of-the-box, the top of ramp in Simple UI mode is much, MUCH less than turbo in complex UI mode.

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I find it hilarious that one thread on BLF talks about all the problems with this light while another one is taking orders for it. All at the same time.

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Few of first batch buyers did receive a faulty light out from the box (FACT), but how many of those who raise concern about FWAA issue actually own a FWAA? frown

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I find it hilarious that one thread on BLF talks about all the problems with this light while another one is taking orders for it. All at the same time.

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Firelight2 wrote:
asdqqq wrote:
GreenLights wrote:
Is there ANY way of getting to true turbo while in Simple UI?
I think you just set the top of the simple ramp to 150. I think it even comes that way out of the box.

Out-of-the-box, the top of ramp in Simple UI mode is much, MUCH less than turbo in complex UI mode.


Ok. I was just going by the manual, as I’ve already reconfigured everything on mine. It says the default config for the simple ui is a floor of 20 and a ceiling of 150.

Does anyone know where the Anduril config file for this light is at? I’d like to see where the 1×7135 is set on the 1-150 scale.

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We heard FWAA will be made in copper, brass, and Ti. cool

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A Cu/Ti model with the Ti stonewash finishes that the GTnano has would make me bite. This thing needs a Cu head though for the Ti versions. It barely get’s by with Al.

NOW for the bigger question.. What about a SINGLE emitter version? Pretty please?

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