IKEA kills off LADDA NiMH made in Japan

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IKEA kills off LADDA NiMH made in Japan

Hello BLF, this is sad news.
After deciding they only want to sell rechargeables in the future (good thing), IKEAs LADDA NiMH batteries are now last chance to buy (bad thing).
This is international.

People who have experience with how IKEA do said this product will be replaced by a similar one and only management knows.

I suspect they won’t replace them with better ones or simply rebrand them because it’s a loss leader product and selling a set of batteries every 4 years at a loss is no fun compared to selling batteries every 6 months at a profit.
My uneducated guess is they will start selling chinese eneloops or even worse, chinese ‘LSD’ cells.
The OEM-equivalent to these are eneloop pro and they’re not 7$ a pack, I can tell you that much. Big Smile

Since Amazon Basics Batteries previously and up till now IKEA LADDA batteries used to be ‘made in Japan’, this also means the FDK manufacturing plant, which is the only NiMH plant in Japan afaik, will have less production output and less customers.
Also, Fujitsu NiMH seem to be going away? Nkon.nl can’t get them anymore, nowhere else in europe you can buy them and I’m surprised to see how little you can find on Amazon.co.jp but maybe I’m just using the site wrong?
As far as I can tell, the only customers left for the FDK plant are eneloop and Toshiba impulse?
I hope this is not the end of japanese LSD cells.

So stock up while you still can and maybe write an angry letter to IKEA management Silly

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This is very interesting, thanks for posting.

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to quote their “we’ll stop selling alkaleaks to save the environment”-article

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As one LADDA battery can be charged up to 500 times, the potential to reduce additional waste exists.

looks like they gained their eco-laurels and now they pull a 180 on us toward much more wasteful batteries. honorable.

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Damn. Thanks for posting. Hopefully they’ll reverse the decision, but I don’t think that’s likely…

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here is the email for those who feel competent to write:
pressoffice.rangesupply@inter.ikea.com

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As of 6 May 2021 there is no ‘Last chance to buy’ message for either the AA or AAA LADDA cells on Ikea’s Australian site.

Edit: The AA cells are out of stock in the UK and Ireland, but there is no last chance message on the AAA cells. Canada has the last chance message on both AA and AAA.

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maybe aussie internet was weird while management sent that email Silly

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Where do you see that they aren’t sourcing the batteries from Japan in the future?

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skinny_tie wrote:
Edit: The AA cells are out of stock in the UK and Ireland, but there is no last chance message on the AAA cells. Canada has the last chance message on both AA and AAA.

Showing as available online in the UK and in stock at my nearest store:
https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/ladda-rechargeable-battery-70303876/

Oz internet is screwing with ya!

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I ordered 3 packs from the website. These are usually sold out in stores in the Maryland area, especially this past year. Maybe COVID related, who knows. Last chance message convinced me !
Nice to have no matter what happens in the future.

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Oh no. Better stock up on those!

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Ordered some. Thanks

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You want the standard 2000mAh Eneloop types, anyway.

Just buy Eneloop or Fujitsu standard jobbies and profit.

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I have been using energizer recharge LSD. About $1.15 each. Made in Japan.

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They won’t ship to my state apparently. They don’t have a store in my area. I guess they don’t want my money. I was looking into getting more nimh, the last ones I got were the Japanese amazon basics ones. Now amazon basics are the crappy chinese ones. Seems like Eneloop are my only good option.

Edit: I tried again and now it lets me check out, but once shipping is added It seems about the same price as buying eneloops on amazon with free shipping. I guess these are only a deal if you get them in the store.

Edit some more: Oh the Laddas are the Eneloop Pros right? So yea they are a good bit less but I’d rather have more charge cycles than a little higher capacity.

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This is terrible news, especially in Australia where Eneloops are the poor Chinese version as well Sad

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Ordered. Thanks for the heads up

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stephenk wrote:

This is terrible news, especially in Australia where Eneloops are the poor Chinese version as well Sad

I didn't know that some Eneloops are made in China, but some are.

I'll have to be careful the next time I buy some to make sure I get ones made in Japan.  :BEER:

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So do Duraloops no longer exist either now?

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Still in stock for me here in Sydney the AA’s are at $15 a pack. I bought a bunch of Coles branded NiMH on clearance not to long ago They are okay so far.

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They’ll replace it with more durable cells, but what manufacturer will it be?

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

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Unheard wrote:
They’ll replace it with more durable cells, but what manufacturer will it be?

only cells more durable than Eneloop Pro / IKEA LADDA I know of are 2100 cycle 1900mAh japanese Eneloops but it’s the exact same technology, just less capacity.

Btw, Varta Endless = Chinese Eneloops
Those have a track record of dying way earlier than panasonic claims.
Part of the reason japanese eneloops can do 2100 cycles is very, very pure metals for the aloys of the electrodes which I guess the chinese factory is probably penny-pinching on.

This NiMH Handbook by GP goes a bit in-depth on the chemistry of standard NiMH batteries, FDKs low self discharge tech is even more advanced.

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Unheard wrote:
They’ll replace it with more durable cells, but what manufacturer will it be?

I doubt it, they’ll probably be replaced by cheaper inferior NiMH.
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Unheard wrote:
They’ll replace it with more durable cells, but what manufacturer will it be?

I doubt it, they’ll probably be replaced by cheaper inferior NiMH.
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For all we know they are simply replacing the label with a more colourful one.
That said perhaps they are changing supliers or getting out of the battery business. We just don’t know.

Anyone know someone high up at Ikea and can ask?

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

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Bort wrote:
For all we know they are simply replacing the label with a more colourful one.
That said perhaps they are changing supliers or getting out of the battery business. We just don’t know.

Anyone know someone high up at Ikea and can ask?

Seems Amazon Basics and Duracell stopped using the Japanese cells and switched to the Chinese ones since they are probably much cheaper. Of course they sell them for the same price as the old ones. Ikea is probably doing the same. From their point of view making more money trumps selling a better product.

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jasontheguitarist wrote:
Bort wrote:
For all we know they are simply replacing the label with a more colourful one.
That said perhaps they are changing supliers or getting out of the battery business. We just don’t know.

Anyone know someone high up at Ikea and can ask?

Seems Amazon Basics and Duracell stopped using the Japanese cells and switched to the Chinese ones since they are probably much cheaper. Of course they sell them for the same price as the old ones. Ikea is probably doing the same. From their point of view making more money trumps selling a better product.


Makes sense but not necessarily prescient.

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Bought these about a year and a half ago. Are these the good ones?

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They’re most probably just FDK’s (Fujitsu) high cap offerings, so use them and abuse them, since you have probably 2-3 years of life in them.

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thanks for your post.
do not need now,
but will soon.

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RobertB wrote:
Bought these about a year and a half ago. Are these the good ones?
Yes they are the good ones.

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