I really wanted to like this light but so far I couldn’t
Namely due to the comparison with other lights (non consensual ones, eventually)
This SC21 is longer than an S1R / S1R II (16340); it is also longer than the Skilhunt M200 with shorty tube (from Astrolux ) and an 18350 that has more capacity. Slimmer than the last one, of course, but even so, not much
I know it may have some virtues, but I couldn’t find one that would lead me to buy this light! I am not bashing, just saying that others suit me better!
And I hope the ones who get it like it and that it works fine
What’s the advantage of not having it memorized, longuylander?
As Lightbringer mentioned, a light that has a shortcut to moonlight but doesn’t memorize it gives three different modes for the light to be turned on. The shortcut can always be used to get to moonlight, so memorizing it only takes away one of the regular modes for direct access. Which is why it’s great that most lights don’t memorize turbo either, but give direct access to it. Again, just a personal preference.
Yeah, Anduril can do that as well as Zebralights. I like both, but in this format, I prefer the Olight UI. One click for moon saves old men in the middle of the night in hotel rooms. Difficult enough to remember where I am.
Got mine yesterday. Nice little light. Ramping is to fast on the low end but like the hold for up or click hold for down. Has momentary moonlight when locked out.
Got mine yesterday. Nice little light. Ramping is to fast on the low end but like the hold for up or click hold for down. Has momentary moonlight when locked out.
I’m usually anti-memory but works well with this one. From off – press and hold for moon light, dbl click for turbo or single click for last used mode.
Two concerns – 1) I haven’t tested runtime but the battery seems to run out quick – parasitic drain?
2) The magnet is WEAK! Torches similar size in rank of magnet strength:
uTorch S1 mini 16340 strongest
Eagle Eye X1R 18350 middle
OnTheRoad M3 Pro 16340 middle
Sofirn SC21 16340 weakest
I had the M3 Pro stuck to the vertical metal stem of my bedside light. It’s been hanging there since christmas. Stuck the SC21 below the M3 and it had slid down by morning. Sad.
How about a Sofirn sf22 and lumintop fwaa I have them in a bundle sale both used less than a half of a hour 5 new batteries 4 efast 26650 and a Vapecell H10 1000 mah 14500 one very big light and one very small one. The Sofirn SF22. The SF22 is a Modders challenge
Holy Thread Irrelevance, Batman!
Back to the magnets, which is really a bit of a tangent, between old D4S and E07x magnet it’s too close to call by hand.
D4S is my gold standard for tail magnets. Are you saying the E07 is stronger? I don’t have one of those. Yet.
Since magnets are mentioned, I’ll also confirm that the D4S/D4Sv2 tail magnet is really strong.
I don’t have an E07X, but have the earlier E07, which doesn’t have a magnet.
The PL47 tail magnets are mixed – since I ordered one each of different LED type, I noticed some of them are “OK”, but have one that is extremely weak (cannot hold the flashlight sideways even without battery).
I would like to mention the Wuben TO50R-HC, which also has a very strong magnet on the tailcap – I would dare say almost as strong as the Emisar D4S/D4Sv2 tail magnet.
how strong do u need those magnets to be ? if its enough to hold the light thats good enough.
I think usually something a bit stronger to hold the light more steadily.
I’ve noted some lights magnet can hold the light (on the side) IF the flashlight is not touched or moved. A slight touch could make the flashlight fall off.
A bit stronger magnet will make the light more steady and resist from falling if there’s a slight movement..
It fits some standard optics that fit in the SC31PRO/B like the Carclo ones but it is physically slighter smaller in the overall diameter. It might need a little filing on a 16mm but it might fit. I will either swap the LED itself or see if a 16mm board will fit. It’s 3535 so there are a lot of options. Bezel didn’t have any glue or anything. I swapped a SC31PRO with a CSLNM1.FY and it’s a fun light but the outer portions have some rings with an smo reflector.
Overall, I am pretty much impressed by the stable constant current regulation. They could tweak it a little bit for a constant temperature level of 45°C, allowing a little bit more regulated output.
looks like about 900 lumen turbo for 3 minutes, then step down to sustained 240 lumens for over an hour.. excellent!
fwiw, I find that setting a lower thermal ceiling (on my FWAA), increases the sustained lumens
iow, set to 40C, the light might sustain 300 lumens, instead of 240
I think this is because once internal temp triggers the 45C thermal ceiling, the light drops to a lower sustained output, due to the extra heat remaining inside the host.
Have had an SC21 (vapcell 850mah capacity) for about three weeks now and running it alongside my Wurkkos FC11 (vapcell 18350 with 1100mah capacity) during my nightly walks. In my personal use, I end up with the difference in battery capacity being a non-issue. On moonlight and low, either will last for days. I primarily use medium (100 lumens) on the SC21 and reliably get more than four hours. The 50 lumen low on the FC11 lacks the punch of the 100 lumen medium on the SC21, so I have to use medium on the FC11 (300 lumens) as well. My experience (not scientific testing) is that the SC21 provides about an hour more of runtime on medium, than the FC11 on medium. Either easily are sufficient for my two hour walks.
Note that I did not compare on high or turbo because if I need that much output, I will just use the FC11 with the 18650 battery tube.
I’ve never liked side switch pushbutton lights for this reason. If the light needs a software lockout it’s because the switch design is deficient. The d4v2 hasn’t been a problem yet because of the switch guard and fairly stiff pushbutton, but it takes some care to get those details right. Otherwise I’ve generally preferred recessed tail switches.
The Sofirn SP10S definitely has the accidental switch-on problem. Pretty much turns on anytime it goes in my pockets! That’s why it’s now my bedside flashlight.
I really wanted to like this light but so far I couldn’t
Namely due to the comparison with other lights (non consensual ones, eventually)
This SC21 is longer than an S1R / S1R II (16340); it is also longer than the Skilhunt M200 with shorty tube (from Astrolux ) and an 18350 that has more capacity. Slimmer than the last one, of course, but even so, not much
I know it may have some virtues, but I couldn’t find one that would lead me to buy this light! I am not bashing, just saying that others suit me better!
And I hope the ones who get it like it and that it works fine
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As Lightbringer mentioned, a light that has a shortcut to moonlight but doesn’t memorize it gives three different modes for the light to be turned on. The shortcut can always be used to get to moonlight, so memorizing it only takes away one of the regular modes for direct access. Which is why it’s great that most lights don’t memorize turbo either, but give direct access to it. Again, just a personal preference.
Yeah, Anduril can do that as well as Zebralights. I like both, but in this format, I prefer the Olight UI. One click for moon saves old men in the middle of the night in hotel rooms. Difficult enough to remember where I am.
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So I kind of wanted one, and I got a code from the Sofirn thread. But after hearing about a possible anduril version I’m holding out.
Got mine yesterday. Nice little light. Ramping is to fast on the low end but like the hold for up or click hold for down. Has momentary moonlight when locked out.
I’m usually anti-memory but works well with this one. From off – press and hold for moon light, dbl click for turbo or single click for last used mode.
Two concerns – 1) I haven’t tested runtime but the battery seems to run out quick – parasitic drain?
2) The magnet is WEAK! Torches similar size in rank of magnet strength:
uTorch S1 mini 16340 strongest
Eagle Eye X1R 18350 middle
OnTheRoad M3 Pro 16340 middle
Sofirn SC21 16340 weakest
That’s pretty lame. I hate a weak magnet on a flashlight. I want to hear that clack when i throw it on rebar.
Yup. D4S [CLANG] E12R [BANG] E07x [KAPOW] PL47G2 [PLONK] SC21 [PFFT]
I had the M3 Pro stuck to the vertical metal stem of my bedside light. It’s been hanging there since christmas. Stuck the SC21 below the M3 and it had slid down by morning. Sad.
D4S is my gold standard for tail magnets. Are you saying the E07 is stronger? I don’t have one of those. Yet.
Holy Thread Irrelevance, Batman!
Back to the magnets, which is really a bit of a tangent, between old D4S and E07x magnet it’s too close to call by hand.
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Since magnets are mentioned, I’ll also confirm that the D4S/D4Sv2 tail magnet is really strong.
I don’t have an E07X, but have the earlier E07, which doesn’t have a magnet.
The PL47 tail magnets are mixed – since I ordered one each of different LED type, I noticed some of them are “OK”, but have one that is extremely weak (cannot hold the flashlight sideways even without battery).
I would like to mention the Wuben TO50R-HC, which also has a very strong magnet on the tailcap – I would dare say almost as strong as the Emisar D4S/D4Sv2 tail magnet.
how strong do u need those magnets to be ? if its enough to hold the light thats good enough.
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I think usually something a bit stronger to hold the light more steadily.
I’ve noted some lights magnet can hold the light (on the side) IF the flashlight is not touched or moved. A slight touch could make the flashlight fall off.
A bit stronger magnet will make the light more steady and resist from falling if there’s a slight movement..
Has anyone managed to swap out the LED in the SC21 yet?
I want to put an Osram CSLNM1 in it, make a tiny lil thrower
It fits some standard optics that fit in the SC31PRO/B like the Carclo ones but it is physically slighter smaller in the overall diameter. It might need a little filing on a 16mm but it might fit. I will either swap the LED itself or see if a 16mm board will fit. It’s 3535 so there are a lot of options. Bezel didn’t have any glue or anything. I swapped a SC31PRO with a CSLNM1.FY and it’s a fun light but the outer portions have some rings with an smo reflector.
I’ve successfully swapped a KW CSLNM1.TG in.
A bit of filing was needed for the screw near the (-) wire, and wouldn’t be needed at all with a different MCPCB.
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Any recommendations for a SMO reflector?
Overall, I am pretty much impressed by the stable constant current regulation. They could tweak it a little bit for a constant temperature level of 45°C, allowing a little bit more regulated output.
thanks for the runtime chart
looks like about 900 lumen turbo for 3 minutes, then step down to sustained 240 lumens for over an hour.. excellent!
fwiw, I find that setting a lower thermal ceiling (on my FWAA), increases the sustained lumens
iow, set to 40C, the light might sustain 300 lumens, instead of 240
I think this is because once internal temp triggers the 45C thermal ceiling, the light drops to a lower sustained output, due to the extra heat remaining inside the host.
Have had an SC21 (vapcell 850mah capacity) for about three weeks now and running it alongside my Wurkkos FC11 (vapcell 18350 with 1100mah capacity) during my nightly walks. In my personal use, I end up with the difference in battery capacity being a non-issue. On moonlight and low, either will last for days. I primarily use medium (100 lumens) on the SC21 and reliably get more than four hours. The 50 lumen low on the FC11 lacks the punch of the 100 lumen medium on the SC21, so I have to use medium on the FC11 (300 lumens) as well. My experience (not scientific testing) is that the SC21 provides about an hour more of runtime on medium, than the FC11 on medium. Either easily are sufficient for my two hour walks.
Note that I did not compare on high or turbo because if I need that much output, I will just use the FC11 with the 18650 battery tube.
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Twice this weekend I’ve put my hand into a very hot pocket ‘cause SC21 turned on in my pocket. 4click, people, 4 click.
Or, half twist?
Make a ring of wire and glue it on. Not only stops pocket activation but makes the button easy to find by feel alone. Washers work too.
I’ve never liked side switch pushbutton lights for this reason. If the light needs a software lockout it’s because the switch design is deficient. The d4v2 hasn’t been a problem yet because of the switch guard and fairly stiff pushbutton, but it takes some care to get those details right. Otherwise I’ve generally preferred recessed tail switches.
The Sofirn SP10S definitely has the accidental switch-on problem. Pretty much turns on anytime it goes in my pockets!
That’s why it’s now my bedside flashlight. 
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