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Foods that contain GMO

If you read the packaging of most foods, they contain something called GMO or Genetically Modified Organisms. Brief description:

What is a GMO?
Genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are living organisms whose genetic material has been artificially manipulated in a laboratory through genetic engineering. This creates combinations of plant, animal, bacteria, and virus genes that do not occur in nature or through traditional crossbreeding methods.

Recently, many consumers have demanded that they buy food that is GMO free.

How do you feel about GMO? Do you just eat what you want whether it has it or not or do you go out of your way to buy food that is GMO free?

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According to my research, foods that contain GMOs are perfectly healthy, so I don't try to avoid them.

There are tons of people that think that GMOs are dangerous, however.

(I hope this doesn't turn into a "food fight.")  :-)

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GMO's kinda remind me of gluten.

A lot of people avoid gluten, and the vast majority are not allergic to gluten.

The difference being that no one is literally allergic to GMO's.

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I agree, lots of conflicting information about this. To make matters even more complicated, GMO may have quite different effects on the children of the adults who consumed it.

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There are some GMO’s that concern me a lot. An example would be the genetic mods that Monanto do to make a their Roundup resistant seeds.

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I avoid GMO and buy Organic.

fwiw one of the most common genetic modifications, is the insertion of a gene from Bacillus Thuringensis (BT), for example into Corn.

BT is a naturally occuring organism, and it is used in Organic farming. It is a bacteria that causes caterpillars to die, by dehydration of their digestive tract. It is supposedly OK for humans to eat BT. It is believed to have no effect on us. (at least no effect that is known yet)

caterpillars damage corn, and soybeans.. killing caterpillars, kills butterflies. Some people worry that dead butterflies will produces unintended consequences.. Birds rely on caterpillars and butterflies as a food source..

I buy non GMO, which costs extra, to err on the side of caution.

Roundup is a poison. I definitely worry about it being applied to our environment. It kills all plants, except the ones that are genetically modified to be Roundup resistant. By buying Organic, I avoid both BT, and Roundup resistant genetics.

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Me too.

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Seems like GMO is pretty much same story as everything else when we try to control nature for our own greedy purposes. It just usually ends really badly, but hey glass pebbles are more important than our planet. Can we eat them? Can we drink them? Can we breath them? Well no, but gotta make the money no matter what.

Oh yes. I try to avoid man made poisons and eat sustainable. Not always, but “mostly”.

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Lets see do I trust big corporations putting my health before profits? “HELL NO”
It’s simple keep it natural why eat the unknown. Nobody knows what consuming this food long term will do to our natural bodies.

I have been on a whole foods diet most of my life. Lost my way a little in my late teens early twenties but got back on track.
All thanks to my mother now 86yrs old and still takes no form of medication and has never had the flu in here life I think that says a lot about a good diet.

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GMO’s are banned in many EU countries. What does that show?

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A friend of mine told me years ago —- If it doesn’t rot on the countertop don’t eat it —— we have cheese that last 6 months now and lots of products that have ridiculous shelf life— carbohydrates have gotten a bad rap and are considered Taboo —- it’s all in the delivery approach —- Fruits vegetables etc are good —- chips hydrogenated packaged stuff not so good

I think profits – convenience — laziness have gotten us to a place where we have no idea what we’re eating anymore
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chops728 wrote:
A friend of mine told me years ago —- If it doesn’t rot on the countertop don’t eat it —— we have cheese that last 6 months now and lots of products that have ridiculous shelf life— carbohydrates have gotten a bad rap and are considered Taboo —- it’s all in the delivery approach —- Fruits vegetables etc are good —- chips hydrogenated packaged stuff not so good I think profits – convenience — laziness have gotten us to a place where we have no idea what we’re eating anymore

What about milk? Mile used to go bad in 72 hrs many years ago. Now it lasts 3 weeks.

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zoulas wrote:
chops728 wrote:
A friend of mine told me years ago —- If it doesn’t rot on the countertop don’t eat it —— we have cheese that last 6 months now and lots of products that have ridiculous shelf life— carbohydrates have gotten a bad rap and are considered Taboo —- it’s all in the delivery approach —- Fruits vegetables etc are good —- chips hydrogenated packaged stuff not so good I think profits – convenience — laziness have gotten us to a place where we have no idea what we’re eating anymore

What about milk? Mile used to go bad in 72 hrs many years ago. Now it lasts 3 weeks.

Yes indeed —- in an ideal setting I try not to eat Bread or Dairy products —— I quit drinking alcohol years ago —- Bread and Dairy are harder to stay off of —- you want to live life not become a hermit to stay alive

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I avoid eating anything with human DNA mixed in. Other than that I’m game. See what I did there? Wink

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As said above, it's the reason for the modification that concerns me more.  Technology notwithstanding, lab GMO isn't a huge change from what has been done with husbandry for centuries, but when "they" alter something such as corn to make it survive dumping incredible amounts of herbicides or pesticides, that's concerning, because ag chemicals are really dangerous to most life, some even when used correctly ("correctly").  The USDA has and still does an incredible amount of research but it's not enough and sometimes erred on the side of profitability rather than the more sensible approach to overall safety as the EU tends to favor.  In the last couple decades we've seen more evidence of that (and it of course extends to many other chemicals and products of chemicals).  Some may remember Alar in the 1970s, or chlorpyrifos in the 90s...those are both great examples and indicators of why caution is needed. 

Also as said above, it's sad that we have always put humans so far above and ahead of other living organisms.  Society as it is now with fewer farmers, we do need to think about yields and profitability and the ability to keep food flowing and affordable (?) but still after all these centuries we do not fully understand and appreciate the web of life and how everything is interconnected...why even things we don't like still have a purpose and shouldn't necessarily be eradicated for our own benefit alone.  These aspects are the main approach to GMO and why I try to steer clear of those food products, generally.  Honestly our entire food industry is kind of alarming in almost every aspect these days...so very different in just 50 or 60 years, and mainly concerned with preservation as opposed to fresh (i.e. waste/yield).  I don't think it's a smart approach. 

So...GMO isn't inherently bad, but what we do with it is where the concern is, imho.  I for one am glad that so many people in past generations took the time to modify some plants to make them safe and edible (tomatoes being the most obvious thing of several...that's a plant family that is bad news for most of its members). 

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GMO crops available in the United States: alfalfa apples canola corn cotton eggplant papaya pineapple potatoes soybeans squash sugar beets and sugar cane”

cows are gmo

wheat, tomatoes, and chicken are not GMO
but they have other issues.. lol

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Yep, GMOs are in a lot of foods.

I'm surprised so many people avoid GMOs, but at least no one is getting into an argument.  :BEER:

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I think it has a lot to do with the demand 7 billion people put on the planet. If people used common sense and not have nine children, we may not be in the mess we are in today. There is only so much space on the planet, only so much oxygen, and only so much food that can be grown. I think GMO represents the industry reacting to the demand that cannot be met using old school methods.

Lake Meade is at its lowest level in history. They “blame” this on global warming. Of course overdeveloping the area had nothing to do with it.

Don’t laugh but the solution is really life on Mars. So in 100 years when it happens, we can all sleep easier. Take a jacket, I hear at night it reaches -200F. Too bad, since there is no atmosphere, that means there are no trees to cut into firewood. Oh well. We are just gonna have to rely on oil and gas for heat.

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The gravity on Mars is 0.375 than that of Earth.

Does anyone really think that most humans will do well long-term with that weak of gravity?

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The gravity on Mars is 0.375 than that of Earth.


Does anyone really think that most humans will do well long-term with that weak of gravity?


We’ll probably have to be genetically modified. Wink

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Genetic modification is a technique, the technique itself is not inherently bad for you, but I can think of genes/proteins that I do not want in my food. So it al depends on which modification and why.

The Round-up example is tricky, it may have reduced overal pesticide use but the other side is that the stuff is not good for the environment and Monsanto created a clever dependancy on their products which gave them way too much power.

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zoulas wrote:
Don't laugh but the solution is really life on Mars. So in 100 years when it happens, we can all sleep easier. Take a jacket, I hear at night it reaches -200F. Too bad, since there is no atmosphere, that means there are no trees to cut into firewood. Oh well. We are just gonna have to rely on oil and gas for heat.


We're all going to need 2700K Osram throwers, too.  Have you seen the dust situation up there?? 

As far as world-food...politics and economics have an awful lot to do with the situation, too...probably still more so than yields.
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djozz wrote:
Genetic modification is a technique, the technique itself is not inherently bad for you, but I can think of genes/proteins that I do not want in my food. So it al depends on which modification and why. The Round-up example is tricky, it may have reduced overal pesticide use but the other side is that the stuff is not good for the environment and Monsanto created a clever dependancy on their products which gave them way too much power.

 

So I hear, it actually increased the use of glyphosphate (Roundup or otherwise) and additionally it allowed the use of higher concentrations of it.  They can literally flood the plants and soil with it...the crops can "handle" it and all of the target species cannot so even the resistant species die.  Yes, that does create additional environmental issues even though it's a chemical that has a pretty short half life and lower transport.  And it didn't halt the growth of Dicambra use, either, which is a whole other story.  The patents...oh man...what a mess a dollar can make. 

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bananas are non GMO, at the moment:

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MtnDon wrote:
There are some GMO’s that concern me a lot. An example would be the genetic mods that Monanto do to make a their Roundup resistant seeds.

I agree. Crops engineered for glyphosate and/or 2,4-D resistance are a major concern. Many food products have been found to contain these herbicides.

Glyphosate Contamination in Food Goes Far Beyond Oat Products

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amazing what people will do, when money is at stake

“Oats are not a genetically engineered crop. But glyphosate is increasingly being used as a “dessicant” to dry out crops to speed harvesting.May 1, 2016”

“glyphosate is also sprayed just before harvest on wheat, barley, oats and beans that are not genetically engineered. Glyphosate kills the crop, drying it out so it can be harvested sooner than if the plant were allowed to die naturally”

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Okay, I don't care about GMOs or organic food that much, but here's some info a lot of people don't know.

https://www.fda.gov/food/agricultural-biotechnology/how-gmos-are-regulated-food-and-plant-safety-united-states

https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/organic-food-better

Avoiding GMOs, or just eating organic food, is no big deal because it isn't dangerous to anything other than your wallet, and people waste money on stuff all the time.

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But that is missing the point that GMO’s cause environmental damage.

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I do not know are GMO dangerous, but GMO tomatows has plastic taste.

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