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The Perfect Tint

All you plebes fighting over tints and what CRI makes your yellow 2700K lights look the least like yellow and the most like red.

Illuminant E master race.

Illuminant E master race.

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Multi-frequency light is inescapably plebian, monochromatism is the true patrician choice

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I personally like 4000k sst 20 led tint the best for flood lights and 5700k for throwers

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Are we in agreement this is a subjective question?

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Very, give me the 219B in sw35,sw40 or sw45k. Next some of the SST20’s in 4000k and xm-l2 and xp-l hi in 5a2. A few of the LH351D 3500-4000k are not bad and the new fc40 is really nice.

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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5D2 is the ultimate tint.
I say this becasue i have one for sale Silly

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Bort wrote:
5D2 is the ultimate tint. I say this becasue i have one for sale Silly

That is above the bbl?

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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tint is in the eye of the beholder.

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mattlward wrote:
Bort wrote:
5D2 is the ultimate tint. I say this becasue i have one for sale Silly

That is above the bbl?


bbl?

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of alternative facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists"

 

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Except the point is that “white” is not subjective. Illuminant E is the perfect white.

Illuminant E master race.

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Bort wrote:
mattlward wrote:
Bort wrote:
5D2 is the ultimate tint. I say this becasue i have one for sale Silly

That is above the bbl?


bbl?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planckian_locus
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What about an xhp70.2 in 3000k. Does anyone have experience with that leds

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For me the sweet spot usually is 4D, 4A, 3D, 3A.. below the BBL.

Of course that may vary either way (cooler or warmer) for some emitters.

I DETEST (HATE) warm, & super warm tints. Hideous Blue cool tints too.

For a “dedicated” thrower… cooler is better as long as it IS NOT Hideous Blue.

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I seek 6500k and above and specifically love a bluish green tinge sometimes with some purple. No… my favourite is tint would be from my 3k xhp70.2 convoy m21c-u.

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anonymous_user wrote:
Bort wrote:
mattlward wrote:
Bort wrote:
5D2 is the ultimate tint. I say this becasue i have one for sale Silly

That is above the bbl?


bbl?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planckian_locus

jon_slider wrote:

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Too complicated
5D2 Big Smile

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

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I prefer fairly warm white, but any warm white will do.

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Had to do a Google / Wikipedia search to find out what is “Illuminant E”…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_illuminant#Illuminant_E

Looks like it’s supposed to be approximated closely to somewhere around 5455k color temperature, based on the above link, but has no actual color temperature..

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Illuminant E confirmed

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zoulas wrote:
Are we in agreement this is a subjective question?

YES… or at least we should be. ✅
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Inexorabill wrote:
All you plebes fighting over tints and what CRImakes your yellow 2700K lights look the least like yellow and the most like red.

Illuminant E master race.

What does “master race” have to do with this???

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Inexorabill wrote:
Except the point is that “white” is not subjective. Illuminant E is the perfect white.

Illuminant E is a from theory constructed light source while “white” is, despite how you want it to be, in fact a human perception, far from objective. If they match for you that will be coincidence.

(Have you seen illuminant E? Is there an actual existing source of it?)

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There has been a few studies about perceived white point and tint preference

One about perceived white point, and two about preference are cited in This presentation which I recommend reading.

Here is another one about perceived white point.

So not even talking about preference you can’t affirm that an illuminant E is white.

Anyhow personally I like CCTs between ~4500K and ~2200K with duv between ~-0.002 and ~-0.008

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Maybe sw45k, others too yes, also sliced LH351D 5000k’s, but kinda depends on the use. SST20 4000k works when you need a lot of lumens, but also at certain level diffused nicely for floody goodness.

Best tint for thrower? Gotta take that FC40 or some XHP35 Hi.

What spices you want with that? Just a hint of red or MT-G2 vanilla flavor, thanks.

NEVER go above 5000k!!! Stay below, stay safe.

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The darkness is the perfection haha.
I’m not obsessed for the tint variations,but I dislike most of the low Cri Leds that are now obsolete(marketing strategy).

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ShyOne wrote:
Inexorabill wrote:
All you plebes fighting over tints and what CRImakes your yellow 2700K lights look the least like yellow and the most like red.

Illuminant E master race.

What does “master race” have to do with this???

It’s basically tongue in cheek refernce to PC gaming being the ‘master race’ over console gaming systems. In referring to tints, CRI, and subjective perfect whiteness, it could become, ah, a bit slippery, lol.

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d_t_a wrote:
Looks like it’s supposed to be approximated closely to somewhere around 5455k color temperature,
yes but this thread makes the typical mistake of confusing the term Tint with Color Temperature..

I think its a joke, since there is no LED I can buy, that matches Illuminant E

in my real world, the choices are not theoretical.. I mostly use sw45k, with an occasional 3000k 219b… or 2700k LH351d

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For wich application you use the 45k and at wich time of the day?You talk about this LED a lot Smile

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MoreLumens wrote:
NEVER go above 5000k!!! Stay below, stay safe.

Stay safe?
Is the devil lurking above 5000K? Evil

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

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jon_slider wrote:
d_t_a wrote:
Looks like it’s supposed to be approximated closely to somewhere around 5455k color temperature,
yes but this thread makes the typical mistake of confusing the term Tint with Color Temperature..

Yeah tint is like the “flavor” or spice in certain CCT. Just feels good to call it tint though. What color temperature is that vs. what’s the tint. Kinda slangy too.

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Bort wrote:
MoreLumens wrote:
NEVER go above 5000k!!! Stay below, stay safe.
Stay safe? Is the devil lurking above 5000K? Evil

Well after that eyes start to bleed, you get cancer and excessive hair growth in certain parts of your body. Almost enough scientific evidence to support my claims too. Grad

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