Would you try to go to the edge of space if the trip were free?

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Would you try to go to the edge of space if the trip were free?

Billionaire Richard Branson and a few people went close to the edge of space about a week ago.

Billionaire Jeff Bezos and a few people plan to go to the edge of space tomorrow.

It costs $250,000 to go close to the edge of space with Virgin Galactic, well if you can actually get a ticket.

 

I have two questions for everyone.

 

1.  Would you try to go to the edge of space if the trip were free?

Personally, I would not because I take almost no unnecessary risks.

I still remember the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster of 1986.

 

2.  What "unnecessary" risks are you willing to take?

Everything that we do in life has some sort of risk, but some of those things are much riskier than others, and some I consider unnecessary.

The only risky thing that I like that is unnecessary is riding roller coasters.

I haven't ridden one in about 15 years, but I did enjoy the smoother roller coasters back in the day.

 

So, there you go, two hopefully interesting questions to kick off a thread.  :BEER:

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No on the space trip. I love roller coasters too. I used to love playing with “energetic materials “. Fortunately I still have all my fingers if not my marbles. Riskiest thing now is driving in traffic

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I’d love to do it but the risk gives me pause.
And the cost, if i had the money i’d put it to better use.

As for risk i have 3 flashlights with built in and unremovable Chinese brand cells. Perhaps thats something Xtar can fix if they start a thread asking us for ways to improve their lights (Moon RC2).

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It depends. How many flashlights can I bring?

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Probably not to the edge of space, but I’d take a free ride to the moon. Like a day trip or something. Take the wife and kids out for a picnic on Oceanus Procellarum (I don’t have a wife or kids).

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I still remember the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster of 1986.

A statistic from the 90s i never forgot, space shuttle trips have (had) a risk of death of about 5%.

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By the way, I hope that Jeff Bezos lives a long healthy life, though it's mainly for selfish reasons.

I really like Amazon, and if Bezos were to die, maybe Amazon wouldn't be so great anymore.

(Plus, the longer Bezos lives, maybe the better the chance that he accomplishes other positive things.)

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darosk wrote:

Probably not to the edge of space, but I'd take a free ride to the moon. Like a day trip or something. Take the wife and kids out for a picnic on Oceanus Procellarum (I don't have a wife or kids).

The moon is much, much further than the edge of space.

You have to travel through a lot of space to get to the moon.  :-)

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raccoon city wrote:

darosk wrote:

Probably not to the edge of space, but I’d take a free ride to the moon. Like a day trip or something. Take the wife and kids out for a picnic on Oceanus Procellarum (I don’t have a wife or kids).


The moon is much, much further than the edge of space.


You have to travel through a lot of space to get to the moon.  alt=)" />


Yes, I know that Smile I was being slightly facetious.

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Nope. In fact you would have to pay me about what it costs.

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Hell yes! At 56 with both kids almost adults, I would do it in a heartbeat.

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i would if someone would ALSO pay my life insurance premium for the trip.

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I just remembered something.

I recently saw Final Destination 3, and in that movie they point out that you have a higher probability of dying from a traffic accident to or from an amusement park than dying on a roller coaster at an amusement park.

I don't know if I would trust a statistic from a horror movie, but if true, then roller coasters are relatively safe.  :THUMBS-UP:

...

By the way, do not watch that movie right before going on a roller coaster unless you want to try to scare yourself.  ;)

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For free? Heck yeah. I’d also skydive if it were free.

But you’d have to pay me big bucks to visit Portland OR. Wink Too risky!! Silly

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Did you know that you can skydive without a parachute...

Once.  :FACEPALM:

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Free?

Yes, I’d do it.

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raccoon city wrote:

Someone can skydive without a parachute…


Once.  alt=:" />


Twice if you are reincarnated.

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Watching this vid gets me queasy, so nfw would I go up there with Bezos.

 

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Just like that guy in the balance board video I’d be hesitant to trust my life to technology if I don’t have to.

Now… if the reward was greater, like we were travelling to a new paradise world with low gravity and amazonian women, then maybe…

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Lightbringer wrote:

Watching this vid gets me queasy, so nfw would I go up there with Bezos.

Cool video, but pretty scary.

I just got off the phone with Bezos.

He said that he'll pay for Lightbringer's ticket and give him a free year of Amazon Prime, but LB has to attempt to go to the edge of space to get the free Prime.  ;)

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I’d go. I think that as I look back over my life I do/will regret the things I didn’t do much more than the things I did.
On the other hand, at 55, I don’t have a scar, tattoo, ache or pain that didn’t start out as a good idea. (here, hold my beer)

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“Would you try to go to the edge of space if the trip were free?”

Only if someone paid me. LOL Thumbs Up Beer

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Yes, I would go if there wasn't a long training program first.

 

Wonder what part is more dangerous - going up or coming down? The space shuttle had one failure each way out of 135 missions.

 

Who would go on the "vomit comet" if it we free? Slightly similar experience but shorter and proportional less risk. I would like to but I know I would need the vomit bag.

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No. Not right now. These vehicles are still experimental. The very short lived experience just isn’t worth the risk at this point. Going to the ISS? That’s a different story. Wink Big Smile Cash

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A free round-trip to the Moon complete with free rental of a space-suit, room and board, would be much nicer.

BTW: Do we know what flashlights or search lights those moon-walkers used? And what to expect from using our conventional (battery-powered) flashlights on the Moon or in Space?

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And what to expect from using our conventional (battery-powered) flashlights on the Moon or in Space?

Heat dissipation is radiation-only, so incandescent bulbs are a good choice. Batteries maybe need to be wraped in something reflecting the radiation back on them, if the body is made from plastic. An 80th plastic flashlight from the flea market along with a rescue blanket from the first aid box in your car should do.

Edit: I’d take the ride if I could keep the space suit.

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Unheard wrote:
TermsakC wrote:
And what to expect from using our conventional (battery-powered) flashlights on the Moon or in Space?

Heat dissipation is radiation-only, so incandescent bulbs are a good choice. Batteries maybe need to be wraped in something reflecting the radiation back on them, if the body is made from plastic. An 80th plastic flashlight from the flea market along with a rescue blanket from the first aid box in your car should do.

Edit: I’d take the ride if I could keep the space suit.


Good point, though the batteries won’t care, its the outside of the light. Also in the spacecraft there is air, but outside there is not.
Temperature regulation would be required, and more thermal mass/more surface area to dissipate heat.

That said in space you need dead reliable so a Chinese flashlight does not fit that bill. You may even need intrinsically safe.

Also you are in the spacecraft, you won’t need that many lumens.

I’m going to start a new topic on this Smile

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There are to much people
with no food and water.

In my opinion,these is a waste of money
when some problems are still around.

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Xandre wrote:
There are to much people
with no food and water.

In my opinion,these is a waste of money
when some problems are still around.

Regards Xandre

I’ve heard and understand both sides of this argument. eg, there will always be some people that can’t or won’t take care of themselves, and this kind of scientific pursuit has helped raise the standard of living for almost everyone. But, I still largely agree with you. At least these private companies aren’t stealing my money to go play in space like the government does (ignoring government subsidies they may receive).

I frequently visit the darkest places in my state so that I can look at the stars. If you have never tried that before, do it soon because the night sky will soon be ruined by starlink satellites. Last year you’d occasionally see one, this year you cannot avoid seeing them nearly constantly. We’re not even seeing the lowest (brightest reflecting) satellites yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Constellation_design_and_status

To me it seems we’re full of hubris and are completely ignoring the ‘great filter’ of the fermi paradox.

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