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I DO NOT want to start another round of COVID bickering. This is what happened to me today.
Went to the hospital for my monthly infusions. Our COVID cases have been way down.
The check-in is back to full questions, temp check Etc. Mask required.
Can’t get in unless you have an appointment for treatment or meet the visitor requirements.
The hospital had been letting visitors in twos go to rooms. Visitors could swap out as long as no more than two per room.
Now it’s only one, and only that one person per day. No swapping.

My nurse asked me “Didn’t I used to wear an N95?”
Yeah, but stopped after getting the vaccine and things calmed down a few months ago. I’ve been wearing the surgical masks of late.

She told me Delta was in full attack mode here. A few weeks ago the COVID floor was mostly empty.
Now it’s full and they are having to ship new COVID patients to El Paso.
And some vaccinated folks are getting it, but the symptoms are not as bad as for the non-vaccinated.

She said it would be a good idea to start wearing N95 in the hospital and when I’m out and about.
Breaking out my N95 for tomorrows infusion session.

Factoid: 98% of the local deaths are in non-vaccinated population. If an op-ed article in the local paper is to be believed.
Keep safe,
All the Best,
Jeff

sb, Feel free to lock this or let me know and I’ll delete it.

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"Factoid: 98% of the local deaths are in non-vaccinated population. If an op-ed article in the local paper is to be believed."

Nationally, that number is at 99.5%  :THUMBS-UP:

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locally (schools, hospitals, etc.)
are “beginning” to require masks of any type.
they have not been specific, like N95 or some such.
bottom line: masks are back with or without the vac.

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raccoon city wrote:

“Factoid: 98% of the local deaths are in non-vaccinated population. If an op-ed article in the local paper is to be believed.”


Nationally, that number is at 99.5%  alt=:" />

This is correct. Once again, American ignorance is being challenged… and you’d think that people would’ve learned the first time around. Oh well. Hope you’re able to sidestep the Delta variant in high risk Texas, Jeff!
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Xevious one fact about ignorance. Lack of knowledge can be addressed with education. Willfully ignoring a subject is another thing entirely. Unfortunately willful ignorance becomes a pattern that can reap deadly consequences. It is sad that often the ignorant individual brings horrible results to others. Drunk driving, drug abuse etc.

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Some will believe anonymous internet post instead of doctors and nurses. I believe in an open mind but not so open things fall out.

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Yeah, if you're at risk, best to keep with the mask even if you're vaccinated.  Still a lot to learn but Delta has proven a lot of breakthrough cases in vaccinated people (around the world, not just here).  At one point "they" were saying that the Phizer/Moderna still had around 88% efficacy with Delta but it's looking as though it's much lower.  Semi-recent Israeli study suggested 65% or a little better.  It's enough that we all need to still be cautious and not-stupid about things.  I'm in public gathering places a lot and have to travel around the state so I'm prime candidate for all-of-whatever...have been maskless for a couple months (vaccinated since March) other than Federal buildings, but looks like I may have to mask up again.  Durnit.  I'm not in any special risk category.  Delta is a different animal, though, much worse than the Brazilian one that was really of some concern but didn't take hold here in the US (although it was around, and in your neck of the woods). 

Taking bets on when Epsilon will be announced....people are gonna make it happen, looks like.

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Taking bets on when Epsilon will be announced....people are gonna make it happen, looks like.

I'm not sure what the next horrible variant will be called, but I think it's coming.

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raccoon city wrote:
I'm not sure what the next horrible variant will be called, but I think it's coming.


Surely so.  Every single time a virus changes hosts it mutates a little bit...that's normal.  Most of the time it doesn't matter but once in awhile it does.  And this dude started out as a fiendishly clever one in that regard, even able to repair itself (that's bizarre, really).  What's going on with this bugger is so much different than the flu so allowing it (so to speak) to spread so much and have so much opportunity to mutate to its advantage (given the repairability) is just asking for more misery.  I suppose with a giant stroke of luck it could mutate into something more benign like Sars 1 did.  At this point, I don't think so...too much, and literally all over the planet now.  This little virus overlord gets to call the shots.
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raccoon city wrote:

“Factoid: 98% of the local deaths are in non-vaccinated population. If an op-ed article in the local paper is to be believed.”


Nationally, that number is at 99.5%  alt=:" />

I’d pay to see the actual data behind this. Data from Israel, Iceland, UK and Australia tell a completely different story.

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What good are data from israel, Iceland, UK and Australia when we are talking about US numbers?

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Somethings in life give us a second chance and we can learn from our mistakes, health unfortunately usually don’t give second chances, there’s no starting over, no negotiation, no I didn’t know better, it simply happens, and you have to deal with the consequences, sorry for the dark tone, I work in healthcare in Brazil, sometimes COVID-19 can be just some inconvenience with little to no symptoms, some times it is disastrous and unforgiving, it’s like Russian roulette, so I try to warn those I care about. Like you guys
Please be safe

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Sparks65 wrote:
What good are data from israel, Iceland, UK and Australia when we are talking about US numbers?

 

As long as we are all Homo sapiens, it matters a lot...or rather, we should listen, because we're all the same for the most part.  This virus even in its hundreds of strains over the last year has shown that genetics don't seem to matter for much of anything.  Still a lot to learn, though, and now that most of the panic/emergency has subsided we're starting to see much better studies and research...that'll be happening for years to come. 

Did you think that being a human in a different country (or state) makes a difference? 

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If COVID is as bad as we are told, and I am sure it is. (They would never lie to us.) Why are thousands of unvaccinated & untested ILLEGALS allowed to enter the USA by crossing the Southern Border each day??
And then many/most are bussed/transported to different points all across the nation!! Shocked Shocked

This seem completely counterproductive to stopping the spread of COVID!!!
I mean what are they (the powers that be) thinking??

OR….

Are they really not that concerned with COVID??

By what they are doing & allowing it would seem they don’t care or have no worry.

What is really going on??

This is disheartening to say the least….

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JaredM wrote:

I'd pay to see the actual data behind this. Data from Israel, Iceland, UK and Australia tell a completely different story.

You can find data from Israel and Iceland and the U.K. and Australia, but you can't find the data for the U.S.?

...

All you gotta do is Google:

What percentage of covid deaths in the US are unvaccinated?

You'll get plenty of different answers, but the vast majority are around 99%

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This number is not sufficient. If we were all vaccinated, RC, the fraction of deaths of vaccinated people would be 100%. If none are, the number is 0%. So, for each case you’d need the knowledge of the fraction of vaccinated people in that age and risk group. I know where to get those numbers in Germany, the RKI is well organized and offers spreadsheets for download. I’m quite sure something similar can be found for you US citizens.

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

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(They would never lie to us.)

Just wondering when exactly people started believing this, because history vehemently disagree’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOHYZhL0WQ

Also for good measure, we were warned about this kind of future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo

Bonus Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_L6AS1Huno

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@Lojik wrote:
ShyOne wrote:
(They would never lie to us.)

Just wondering when exactly people started believing this, because history vehemently disagree’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOHYZhL0WQ

Also for good measure, we were warned about this kind of future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo

Bonus Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_L6AS1Huno

You actually mean they “would” lie to us??? Shocked Shocked Shocked

I. am. shocked. .. SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!! Facepalm Wink

Great videos too I might add. ✅

PS… I wonder the same thing you do.

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Politics again Facepalm .

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

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Not really. I personally see honest discussion in the making hopefully.
Time will tell though….

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ShyOne wrote:
@Lojik wrote:
ShyOne wrote:
(They would never lie to us.)

Just wondering when exactly people started believing this, because history vehemently disagree’s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bOHYZhL0WQ

Also for good measure, we were warned about this kind of future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo

Bonus Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_L6AS1Huno

You actually mean they “would” lie to us??? Shocked Shocked Shocked

I. am. shocked. .. SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!! Facepalm Wink

Great videos too I might add. ✅

PS… I wonder the same thing you do.

There has definitely been a lot of mass mental-conditioning that has gone into achieving this.

Now, just mentioning the idea that the Government, Pharma or people who have a lot of profits at stake would habitually lie and ultimately harm others for profit and power gets you chastised as a conspiracy theorist. This is no accident, and neither is the fact that the US government is the one who purposely popularized that phrase to slander the character of anyone questioning the governments actions and official stories. Now this behavior is literally all you see on TV.

Here’s a nice little breakdown of this as well as of how it factors into recent events.

https://youtu.be/w0bC6CAtfBE

ShyOne is right, hopefully this ends up being an honest conversation with genuine open-mindedness to how we may have gotten here.

Also, I would not call this politics, this is Humanitas. “Chief intellectual contexts with the implication of humane learning, or a humanistic approach to the problems of the human condition”.

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ShyOne wrote:
Not really. I personally see honest discussion in the making hopefully.
Time will tell though….

When did ‘They lie to us’ started a reasonable discussion the last time? I’d say never.

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

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ShyOne wrote:
Not really. I personally see honest discussion in the making hopefully. Time will tell though….
When did ‘They lie to us’ started a reasonable discussion the last time? I’d say never.

Touché. When someone has been found out to have lied to you, it’s not something people take too lightly. So very very true indeed that it normally is not a pleasant discussion.

Though, I’d say that it’s still up to us individually to maintain civility and carry out a respectful and hopefully edifying conversation.

Most of our issue with this conversation starts with many people not knowing what governments and industry have already proven to be willing to do in the past to their own people. I don’t think that having this discussion should be an issue for anyone. How can learning from our past be so controversial? That’s not a natural thing, it should be universally welcome. We are at a place and time where that is not welcomed and that should be a major alarm for most people, but it’s not. Why has our government behavior become so draconian? Why are most cheering it on and allowing fear to be the main motivator? That too, is unnatural and ultimately what is in dire need of discussing, understanding and addressing.

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Guys, let's just agree that the human race is bad to the bone! Big Smile

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Smile, you cannot kill them all.

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@Lojik wrote:
(...) How can learning from our past be so controversial? That’s not a natural thing, it should be universally welcome. We are at a place and time where that is not welcomed and that should be a major alarm for most people, but it’s not. Why has our government behavior become so draconian? Why are most cheering it on and allowing fear to be the main motivator? That too, is unnatural and ultimately what is in dire need of discussing, understanding and addressing.

Because we (mankind) are unable to learn from history. Everything repeats again and again and again. Look back into the past and you will see that mankind has fought wars for the same reasons and objectives that we are still facing today or tomorrow. Self-destructive behaviour seems to bloom inside our blood. Personally, I think nature has deliberately put some kind of barrier into the evolution of mankind, making it impossible to overcome our weaknesses. A world like Star Trek will remain science fiction no matter how hard Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos or Richard Branson push the limits to make manned long-range space travel come true.

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That said, I’m conviced people have a realistic view on the society and draw their own conclusions from the data and their knowledge about companies and politics. It is bad style to say some are wrong in their opinion about Covid-19 since they don’t know facts X, Y, and Z. They just have a different point of view.

And this is hard to discuss, especially since this data is hard to understand. So, either trust the scientists and be done, or don’t trust them and check the data yourself.

Smile, you cannot kill them all.

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Correlux is right. We have a lot to learn. I’m new to flashlights. Not new to healthcare (almost 30 years). For this entire pandemic, I have been in the critical care units of two hospitals. As a career respiratory therapist, I was the guy making BIPAP work during early COVID until emergency ventilators were shipped in. If you have COVID you see me. All I know is that in this case study that I’m living in, the government supported, rapidly developed, well distributed vaccine appears to have made COVID an infrequent problem in a few months time. However that’s in a very well vaccinated population. I may be telling a different story next week, but things are really good here, except folks rolling in who weren’t vaccinated. Also, with mandatory COVID reporting to CDC, we’re seeing very sporadic breakthrough cases nationally.

On the other hand, Delta’s spread rate seems to be double that of other variants and that’s been studied in a vaccinated population which is much less fertile or susceptible to being infected, if that makes sense. It could be that if you haven’t been vaccinated, you’re really gambling.

As far as the clinical data goes, whose to say that “Breakthrough” cases could lying about being vaccinated out of embarrassment. We are trying to study humans with a very dim flashlight. What’s the CRI of epidemiological research vs all the unknown unknowns of reality? The statement “Conclusive Study” in itself seems to be an oxymoron, as so many studies’ outcomes can’t be reproduced. Biases are everywhere, and political agendas and fears can also lead to bad decisions.

Also Media is excited to grab headlines that show the next wave, or a good one is when they point out when cases have doubled when today’s “double” numbers are a small fraction of what we saw in the bad old days. I rarely see articles pointing out how rapidly things have gotten back to normal in areas with good vaccination rates like here.

So now less vaccinated areas such as Texas are dealing with viral wildfire where there’s much more tinder. Surprise, surprise. Yet I still think the vaccinated are safe. More variables do abound, and I’m not an expert. Maybe international areas are dealing with lesser performing vaccines? I probably have muddied the waters, but that being said, get the damn vaccine or you’ll be seeing me as I suction your endotracheal tube. Now lets get to talking about flashlights! I’m waiting on my DSV2, Convoy L7 and Astrolux WP3. Don’t tell my wife.

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ShyOne wrote:
If COVID is as bad as we are told, and I am sure it is. (They would never lie to us.) Why are thousands of unvaccinated & untested ILLEGALS allowed to enter the USA by crossing the Southern Border each day??
And then many/most are bussed/transported to different points all across the nation!! Shocked Shocked

This seem completely counterproductive to stopping the spread of COVID!!!
I mean what are they (the powers that be) thinking??

OR….

Are they really not that concerned with COVID??

By what they are doing & allowing it would seem they don’t care or have no worry.

What is really going on??

This is disheartening to say the least….


Those are cheap labor and future voters. One sides investment, racist if the other side protest.
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That said, I’m conviced people have a realistic view on the society and draw their own conclusions from the data and their knowledge about companies and politics. It is bad style to say some are wrong in their opinion about Covid-19 since they don’t know facts X, Y, and Z. They just have a different point of view.

And this is hard to discuss, especially since this data is hard to understand. So, either trust the scientists and be done, or don’t trust them and check the data yourself.

The data’s not that hard to understand, we’re just made to believe that it is. Although our media seems to think THEY sure have a good handle on the data right? Problem is it’s all just gloom and doom and their models have been wrong from the very beginning. But have they admitted that they were wrong along the way? Nope, they just blamed “bad citizens” and moved onto new instructions with most just blindly going along. What they’re doing is intended to lead us down a path where extreme control is held over us. I can’t imagine that’s not obvious to everyone by now.

If the data really were so hard to understand, there would be no need for the record mass-censoring of so many top medical and scientific industry professionals. But that’s exactly why it’s done, they don’t want someone with real scientific rapport simplifying things in a light that’s contradictory to the selected narrative. They want to be the only information outfit in town and that shit is tyrannical AF. They are enacting legislation that will allow them to silence critics even more in the future, that shit is ALSO tyrannical AF.

There are plenty of smart people that are capable of breaking it all down into laymen’s terms, and they do.

Check out how this narrative about it being only the vaccinated is shredded when compared to the rest of the worlds data. It is beyond dishonest for the US to be pushing this lie, yet here we are.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/here-we-go-again

The problem with finding this information, is that anything that goes against the accepted narrative is being actively censored at levels not seen here before. We have absolute top professionals & experts being banned and called quack conspiracy theorists. Again, not good and not normal in the slightest. Red flags are everywhere, it would be a good start if people stopped acting like they didn’t exist.

None of what I say is to take a side, it’s more to highlight how one-sided this all has been. In a place where freedom of choice is supposed to be part of our DNA, there is more than enough happening to cause grave concern. We have been robbed of the ability to dialogue and hear opposing points of views. There should have been a committee or a panel of top doctors working together to analyze the data and come to a consensus on policy, it shouldn’t have been a one-man-rule like Fauci has had. If all the people contradicting the native are so wrong, why censor them? Why not have a huge national debate and let the people that follow those idiots see them get embarrassed in front of the country instead? I know they would all jump at the chance. Problem is they are worried it would be them getting embarrassed and that must be a avoided at all costs. We are in the middle of a dictatorship plain and simple. I know many don’t want to or just aren’t ready to accept it, but every part of our society is clearly pointing to it.

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Now lets get to talking about flashlights! I’m waiting on my DSV2, Convoy L7 and Astrolux WP3. Don’t tell my wife.

Probably getting the shakes by now. Welcome aboard. Might want to add a BLF A6 XPL 3D tint to that collection. It’s our secret hand shake flashlight.

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