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I went on a camping trip to a place i had never been before a few weeks ago, near Crescent, OR on Waldo Lake (the northern part). I was warned the mosquitoes in late June would be bad, but I’ve dealt with bad mosquitoes before. No worries right? Wrong. First day we were there, about 5 PM they started coming, not too bad, but after dinner we were scrambling into the tent because we were being viciously attacked by swarms. I mean bad, like Alaskan tundra bad. Never experienced that before. We were miserable from 6 PM until 9 AM and even then they were bad so we left for the morning to town and got heavy duty bug spray to help, but even then decided to cut our trip 2 days short. First time in 30 years I’ve been bugged out. Lots of standing snowmelt from the very hot weather. Citronella candles were a joke. Same with botanical bug spray. Only 45% deet worked enough to keep them off while we packed!

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jon_slider wrote:
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I am convinced, if I consume enough nicotine I will be invincible.

LOL.. good plan

since mosquitoes follow our exhaled C02 back to us.. if you exhale smoke, it messes up their tracking system.. I hear weed works too..

for people who dont smoke constantly…
my camp kit includes sticks of incense.

placed strategically to mix incense smoke with their exhaled breath stream

deer flies also track C02
there are a couple different types, the ones with wings, which are bad enough, and then the ones that shed their wings and burrow under the hair..

Go Nuclear, DEET on a bandana for those mofos!

There are jokes, dude. They exist. Sorry if that one sucked.

I tried incense in my skiff, but I spill too much fuel so that’s unsafe because hot chunks can fall off onto the floor.. They do make big bug incense sticks that are as effective as the small tikis.

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dthrckt wrote:
There are jokes, dude.
LOL!

I did think you were being funny..
I was too… Party

seriously though, wearing a face net is not very fun
I usually go home at that point

but a skiff ride in a mosquito proof suit, sounds kinda fun too

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jon_slider wrote:
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There are jokes, dude.
LOL!

I did think you were being funny..
I was too… Party

seriously though, wearing a face net is not very fun
I usually go home at that point

but a skiff ride in a mosquito proof suit, sounds kinda fun too

If you are underway, over about 10mph, all you need is clear goggles. The problem is them hitting you in the eyes! Or, when you stop moving.

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When I make anything with garlic (garlic toast, garlic mashies, etc.), I use a whole bulb at a time. Not just a few cloves, but the whole honkin’ thing.

They still come after me.

And there was a “news” piece about that recently, and the takeaway was that ostensibly, people who smell tend to be the most attractive to skeeters. Obvious exceptions are myself, and at least 1 sister. I never knew what foot odor was ‘til college (literally smelled what I thought was rotting cheese or a dead animal in someone’s apartment, when he took off his work-boots). To this day I don’t use, nor need to, deodorant or antiperspirant. I’d have to wear the same shirt for the better part of a week in 90/90 weather to get a good stank going. Etc. (Whole family was/is like that.)

And I have the Super-Sniffer, and would blurt out at work, “I smell banana…”, and someone an aisle over had a banana for lunch and the peel is in his garbage-can. Or apple, or cucumber, etc. So I definitely ain’t “nose-blind” like in the commercial.

And my ankles and the back of my knees are the biggest juiciest targets. Not exactly sweat-sites.

It’s definitely chemical in nature, but specifically what is still up for grabs.

Lightbringer, blood sucking insects look for places where blood vessels are close to the surface and the skin is thinner.

Try using repellent that has Icaridina or Icaridin, here in Brazil we deal with mosquitoes every day, and it’s not just itchy the bite can give you Dengue, Zika, chikungunya, malaria.

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dthrckt wrote:

If you are underway, over about 10mph, all you need is clear goggles. The problem is them hitting you in the eyes! Or, when you stop moving.

Reminds me of an old joke….
Q: How can you tell a motorcyclist is happy?…….
A: The bugs on his teeth

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Renato Azevedo wrote:
here in Brazil we deal with mosquitoes every day, and it’s not just itchy the bite can give you Dengue, Zika, chikungunya, malaria.

Im never leaving Canada!…

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here in Brazil we deal with mosquitoes every day, and it’s not just itchy the bite can give you Dengue, Zika, chikungunya, malaria.

Im never leaving Canada!…

It’s not as bad as you think CRC, I know you’re kidding, I personally never caught any of those virus, neither did my family, I love my country
Here’s a link to Google images (I’d like you to know the place I live, just a short ride from home I have waterfalls and hills that are breathtaking.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Botucatu&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CQJ9nvsAZ_1l_...

P.S. I’d like to go to Canada someday (in the summer)

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here in Brazil we deal with mosquitoes every day, and it’s not just itchy the bite can give you Dengue, Zika, chikungunya, malaria.

Im never leaving Canada!…

It’s not as bad as you think CRC, I know you’re kidding, I personally never caught any of those virus, neither did my family, I love my country
Here’s a link to Google images (I’d like you to know the place I live, just a short ride from home I have waterfalls and hills that are breathtaking.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Botucatu&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CQJ9nvsAZ_1l_...

P.S. I’d like to go to Canada someday (in the summer)

Yes, I am just playing around

Wow, those images are beautiful!

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Botucatu&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CQJ9nvsAZ_1l_...

Those are amazing photos. We had an exchange student from São Paulo with us for a school year about 20 some years ago. We are still in touch and he sends pictures of his travels. There are many places I would like to see but have never made it there.

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I went on a camping trip to a place i had never been before a few weeks ago, near Crescent, OR on Waldo Lake (the northern part). I was warned the mosquitoes in late June would be bad, but I've dealt with bad mosquitoes before. No worries right? Wrong. First day we were there, about 5 PM they started coming, not too bad, but after dinner we were scrambling into the tent because we were being viciously attacked by swarms. I mean bad, like Alaskan tundra bad. Never experienced that before. We were miserable from 6 PM until 9 AM and even then they were bad so we left for the morning to town and got heavy duty bug spray to help, but even then decided to cut our trip 2 days short. First time in 30 years I've been bugged out. Lots of standing snowmelt from the very hot weather. Citronella candles were a joke. Same with botanical bug spray. Only 45% deet worked enough to keep them off while we packed!


That is the most miserable isn't it.  Can't pee or eat in peace and twenty get into the tent with you every time you unzip.  lol.  Have you ever tried picaridin?  It's excellent.  Sawyer seems to be the best brand still, 20% and it's actually truly odor free, no oily residue (and safe for plastics...watches, sunglasses, gear).  I don't think it lasts quite as long as deet but I can usually get half a day or more before needing to reapply.  The Sawyer is kind of pricey but it's worth it.  Natrapel sells it a little cheaper but it has a pretty strong floral/powdery fragrance that drives me nuts and it lasts a long time on gear (maybe not so great for bear country).  There are some backyard formulations like 10% and such but you don't want those for real outdoor time.  Does ok with flies but I think deet is better there, but of course flies will ignore deet a lot of times anyway....and about the same with ticks.  I probably won't use deet again but I still have a couple little bottles and a can of it (bottles I have are the old 100% and 85%...truly does last forever....).  Headnets are lifesavers, too, if they don't make you dizzy or feel claustrophobic.  Treated clothing helps a little but not when they're super thick like that.
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MoreLumens wrote:
Yeah we have these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipoptena_cervi But yes also those big biting flies too.


Flying ticks...great.  lol.  That's the stuff of science fiction!  Do they hurt like biting flies or are they quiet and painless like most ticks?
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I think bobofett had the right idea…

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MtnDon wrote:
Renato Azevedo wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Botucatu&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CQJ9nvsAZ_1l_...

Those are amazing photos. We had an exchange student from São Paulo with us for a school year about 20 some years ago. We are still in touch and he sends pictures of his travels. There are many places I would like to see but have never made it there.

MtnDon just let COVID-19 give us a break, you’d love it here, it’s about 2 and a half hours drive from Sao Paulo, I’ll go camping this weekend and send some pictures for you

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Lightbringer wrote:
… I’ll go on a blood-hunt with one of those electronical tennis racquets.

i’m glad you mentioned that—reminded me to go check the AA alkaleaks in my Racket Zapper, which has 3 grid screens, and an Elucto racket which has only a single plane of grid wires across the head spaced about 4-5mm. Only ever used them indoors for big houseflys, but think i’ll go do a mahsqwito test outdoors to see how they do.

Now i used to think that i was cool,
drivin' around on fossil fuel,
until i saw what i was doin',
was drivin' down the road to ruin. --JT

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i’ve been using the screen-covered fan trick from the dan rojas video to catch the mosquitos, then spraying the catch with a mist of rubbing alcohol to kill them.

i think he runs the fans away from the sitting area, but i aim them towards me to provide a bit of cooling and it still seems to work. He uses 2 for his dog kennel, one in and one out.

I did see this years ago and totally forgot! I’ll probably suffer through this year. If we get another year as wet I’m doing this.

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i just use a cheap little 20” square box fan and set it up close to where i will be sitting or working outside. i like his big fan and use one to ventilate my attic, my bug problem is not as bad as his.

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until i saw what i was doin',
was drivin' down the road to ruin. --JT

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Haven’t used that stuff before that I can remember. However some Coleman non Deet spray had that in it I think and it didn’t work either. This was the worst I’ve seen and no campfire because it was so hot out for the smoke. Kind of a bummer to drive almost 4 hours only to leave the next day. Next time we will go later in the summer when they’re died down and avoid that particular campground since it’s well-known for the mosquitos.

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dthrckt wrote:
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i’ve been using the screen-covered fan trick from the dan rojas video to catch the mosquitos, then spraying the catch with a mist of rubbing alcohol to kill them.

i think he runs the fans away from the sitting area, but i aim them towards me to provide a bit of cooling and it still seems to work. He uses 2 for his dog kennel, one in and one out.

I did see this years ago and totally forgot! I’ll probably suffer through this year. If we get another year as wet I’m doing this.

So this just works by filtering the air, without any sort of attractant?

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Looks that way from the video. Probably less so w/o such a powerful fan?

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… I’ll go on a blood-hunt with one of those electronical tennis racquets.
… i’ll go do a mahsqwito test outdoors to see how they do.

Test Result: both of my racquets are a big FAIL

Didn’t kill any mosquitoes; their body weight is so low and size such that they just don’t get past the outer grid to touch the middle one, and the other one just never fired a spark or caught a bug. i used fresh AA cells and i was able to test them to cause zapping. So these were worthless for me, ymmv.

Now i used to think that i was cool,
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was drivin' down the road to ruin. --JT

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So this just works by filtering the air, without any sort of attractant?

None needed, but he does show using a bottle of selzter water in one video to emit CO2.

My little box fan catches about 50 in an hour. i have noticed that those big stripe-leg variety are strong enough to sometimes escape, but most can’t fly off the screen once caught. The rubbing alcohol spray kills them so they can’t leave when you turn off the fan.

Now i used to think that i was cool,
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until i saw what i was doin',
was drivin' down the road to ruin. --JT

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Lightbringer wrote:
… I’ll go on a blood-hunt with one of those electronical tennis racquets.
… i’ll go do a mahsqwito test outdoors to see how they do.

Test Result: both of my racquets are a big FAIL

Didn’t kill any mosquitoes; their body weight is so low and size such that they just don’t get past the outer grid to touch the middle one, and the other one just never fired a spark or caught a bug. i used fresh AA cells and i was able to test them to cause zapping. So these were worthless for me, ymmv.

thanks, i almost ordered one. works on regular flies though, right? lots of farms around here…somehow, a couple a day get in my house, i think through AC units, or letting dogs in and out.

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I’ve been using the electric USB chargeable Thermacell Radius and it actually works pretty well if there’s no wind.

The internal battery should last about 6 hours, and it uses liquid cartridges that lasts 40 hours, but it comes with a 12h one in the box.
With an added power bank it could last all evening + night.

The only downsides with this electric one is that the button easily turns on in your backpack, so I’ve taped a stiff cardboard over the button, and the cartrdige tends to leak if placed on its side for longer periods. So I’ve put my cartridge in a small zip-lock bag with a paper towel around it and make sure to keep my backpack upright when I can.

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Yeah, they came up with that stoopit design to keep people from electromocuting themselves by grabbing both sides of the racquet. So it’s like 3 layers of chicken-wire (–/+/–) that the beastie has to short out to get zapped.

My old one (fiik where it went) was just 2 layers of hardware-cloth, offset to each other. Anything from a big fat horsefly to little gnats could get trapped and zapped.

Think one of the cats stepped on the one I have now, or something fell on it, because all 3 layers of chicken-wire are smooshed together and bowed out on one side, so I gotta try prying ‘em away from each other without making the distance too far.

Ugh.

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Lightbringer, you’ve got me thinking about making a dangerous one.

Nismo, sounds like the radius is electric OR butane? Haven’t seen that one, I’ll definitely check it out. With no wind, the thermacell effect is impressive, you can see the mosquitoes staying away from you. It paralyzes them if they get too much. I guess they sense it because I’ve not seen one drop…

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