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Moderation is no easy task, even somewhere as simple as a facebook group or something.  I put in several years of doing it and it takes some thought to do it well and fairly, and being able to have clear directions from the forum owners or whomever is supervising the gig.  I love the approach here on BLF and it works - works very well.  There are some things that I might choose to wipe or nudge a little but it's good when "free speech" is allowed, and people can be normal humans without requiring users to earn a degree in forum rules and idiosyncrasies. 

To be fair...or maybe just gracious...I believe the goal at CPF was to try to limit chaff and repetition, keep things on topic and "useful" but they just kicked it up ten notches over time to the point where they were indeed pretty harsh and rigid, even being unkind and judgmental frequently.  Sometimes the idea is to keep the forum useful as a repository of reference/encyclopedia for future users but that can easily come at the expense of squelching the life from a living, breathing gathering place.  Sometimes limits on storage space or costs of that space and running the site (which are not insignificant) become top priority and then things clamp down if they don't find a $ solution.

Even a couple hundred active users is a handful to deal with at times but there (was) enough activity there that I'm sure with their hovering approach to moderating it became a bit overwhelming or too time consuming that they ended up getting intolerant.  When that happens people get weary or edgy, don't want to do the job anymore or even drop off the mod list, or they need to get more and more moderators to handle the load - then they start forming mod schedules to cover time slots, which inevitably dig in to personal lives/time, and the cycle repeats as a quiet hurricane forms.  This isn't a justification or approval because they could be real nitwits that seemed to be more concerned with winning their one-sided fights, but an understanding of maybe how it came to be.  And I think they stopped caring about "growing" the forum and keeping it fresh with new users, too, which is fine but not the most social attitude for what is normally a social venue. 

BLF is doing it right.  Bumpers on the gutters to keep everyone headed down the lane usually without resorting to barbed wire and stun guns.  I also appreciate how sb allows comments to stand or entire threads to remain even if they get locked and has a very light finger on the delete key.  I think his spirit shows in the forum over time and how the membership & attitudes stay pretty great here. 

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It’s easy to overdo moderation, yes. I was a mod, too. And I wouldn’t do it again.

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zoulas wrote:
…and the forum is left with a bunch of newbies, or as BLF refers to them: muggles.

Bit of a distinction first.

A newb is someone interested in lights and wants to learn more.

The Muggle™ is your neighbor, your barber, your cashier, etc., who just wants A Light, and isn’t interested in cri, lumens, color temp, etc. Press button, light up, that’s all they want.

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It's been so long Xevious, but if I recall correctly, Selfbuilt left flashlight reviewing behind largely because the time and energy required to put together such comprehensive, high quality, technically demanding reviews, that were also understandable, was taking a toll on his health. To me, it was obvious that he was a perfectionist! So with demands for new product reviews piling up, especially from everyone wanting to see how much more Vinh could squeeze out of his Super Thrower and Lumen Monster mods, I suspect he realized he had other things he wanted to accomplish before it was too late. I do remember that one of those other things was sampling and possibly reviewing Scotch whiskeys. Cigars may have been another, though that's pure speculation. Personally, with all that he brought to the flashlight enthusiasts community, he certainly earned the opportunity to kick back while enjoying a smooth, aromatic, single malt, and perhaps a stogie. Wherever you are Selfbuilt, I do hope you're doing well and enjoying life! For those of you who don't know who Selfbuilt is, or what he brought to the flashlight enthusiast community, checkout his website for yourself by clicking on the following link, http://flashlightreviews.ca/ 
 Yeah, I am not sure but have a feeling he may have a family... so there's that kind of higher priority need. He was such an active & helpful reviewer in the early emerging LED flashlight years. I also must imagine that at this point, he has so many lights well and above his needs that the drive to explore more must've waned. I do wonder if he has seen the Anduril UI or is aware of the latest emitter breakthroughs on extreme throwing. 

I wish he'd make an update on his site so people would know what he's up to. There's no mention anywhere that I can see of his pulling out of the LED flashlight enthusiast community.

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Dang, his last review was Nov. 2016 and the list of reviews is huge! Like maybe 300+. I really enjoyed his reviews as well - he set a few standards. The pipe lightbox I still use was based on his design, and I think i used to get close to the same results, before the maukka calibration era.

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 I have lost track of how many different topic threads that I’ve posted in about the difference between the two forums. Self built was my first attraction to the other forum, and then sky lumen. I felt so sad when I realized that Self built would not be doing a review on the Noctigon meteor M43. Then when I finally figured out that going gear would not be carrying the meteor, I discovered sky lumen. Then I discovered this forum. There are so many things in life that there are two of. Two different kinds of human beings. Two different political outlooks. Two different economic outlooks. Two different philosophies on life. Two different personality styles. Two different leadership styles. Two different financial bases.  I recall that one forum wanted to maintain and protect their strong focus on non-budget lights, and then someone saw the need to have a forum for where frugal meets flashlight. That, and also different leadership style. I have had lots of time to meditate and philosophize about the difference between the two flashlight forums. I have decided that the difference between the two forums is not mirrored in the dichotomy between  conservative and liberal politics. The dichotomy between the two forums is not mirrored in the conflict between progressive and liberal philosophy. The dichotomy between the two forums is not mirrored in the dichotomy between spiritual and materialistic philosophy. The dichotomy between the two forms is not mirrored by the dichotomy between male and female. I have come to a firm conclusion that the dichotomy between the two forums is not a mirror of the conflict between good and evil. The idea that one is good and the other is evil is a false conclusion. The final  battle between good and evil is not mirrored in the difference between the two flashlight forums.  One has one financial focus, and the other has a different financial focus. One has one type of leadership style, and the other has a different kind of leadership style. Labeling one as good, and the other one as bad, is a gross oversimplification, and is also in poor taste. The next time another topic thread about how horrible the other forum is comes up, I’m just gonna buy a Malkoff and a Convy and then my existence firmly halfway in between both will be complete.

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The next time another topic thread about how horrible the other forum is comes up, I’m just gonna buy a Malkoff and a Convy and then my existence firmly halfway in between both will be complete.

That’s the BLF spirit! Or at least the Convoy part of it is! Wink

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I wonder if the CPF Facebook page went with the sale ?

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Lou Minescence wrote:
I wonder if the CPF Facebook page went with the sale ?

Someone on CPF already asked about this, and yes it did.

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Is the facebook page part of the sale?

Yes, and also the Underground
I will still be around to help out with the transition and so will the other moderators and administrators.

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jon_slider wrote:
Is the facebook page part of the sale?

Yes, and also the Underground
I will still be around to help out with the transition and so will the other moderators and administrators.

What i found most interesting is

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I have had several opportunities to sell CPF but have never taken them because the perspective buyers have not answered my questions about their intentions the way I wanted them to. This buyer did.
Does this mean this buyer pledged to be just as punitive?

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of alternative facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists"

 

 

 

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I understand why you want to insult me. Its okay. I still stand by what I said being that we’re specifically talking about this forum. I’m happy that BLF has never been down for me and it loads fast. And overall this is such a great community from which I’ve learnt so much!

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Multi-threading is just a buzz word.

You might want to consider asking for a refund from wherever it is you got your CS degree.

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agent80 wrote:
I understand why you want to insult me. Its okay.

Apparently my attempt at humor failed. I apologize.

Back in the early 2000’s I operated a heavily modified (by me) phpBB for customer support as a side project. The PHPheads back then were completely convinced, and very vocal that Java would never get anywhere for web development because all the Java web frameworks were multi-threaded. PHP didn’t and couldn’t use threads at all, so, obviously, nobody needs threads.

I haven’t had much to do with the PHP community since then, but in 2021, with the so many of the dominant web dev frameworks being multi-threaded, doesn’t it seem just a tad Luddite to claim that a widely used, proven technology is just a buzz-word?

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Anyone check cpf lately? It’s ads galore. I won’t be visiting that site anymore.

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dealgrabber2002 wrote:

Anyone check cpf lately? It's ads galore. I won't be visiting that site anymore.

I just went there with an adblocker, and of course it looked fine.  :BEER:

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Do those moderators get paid? Or they do it for the power?

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dealgrabber2002 wrote:
Anyone check cpf lately? It’s ads galore. I won’t be visiting that site anymore.

uBlock Origin Firefox add on works wonders for removing ads, you can also choose to hide other annoying things such as Racoon City’s signature picture that takes up half the screen (haven’t seen it for years until he recently changed it)

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Adblock Plus works great as well.

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  I was thinking about buying BLF ...but every time I get 64$ in my pocket I go buy  more things off Amazon. 

$11 MPOW headphones rule !!!

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lionheart_2281 wrote:

you can also choose to hide other annoying things such as Racoon City's signature picture that takes up half the screen (haven't seen it for years until he recently changed it)

Your web browser has to be extremely short and wide for my signature to take up half the screen.

(I don't know why in the world you would have your browser set so short and wide.)  :BEER:

problem_right_there

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dealgrabber2002 wrote:
Anyone check cpf lately? It’s ads galore. I won’t be visiting that site anymore.

The built-in ad blocker on Opera is working wonders in my favor. Only two advertisement banners at the top where they aren’t a bother.

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Boaz wrote:

  I was thinking about buying BLF …but every time I get 64$ in my pocket I go buy  more things off Amazon. 


$11 MPOW headphones rule !!!

I’ve been using the mpow headphones too. Washed it in my jeans by accident one time. Still working like new.

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raccoon city wrote:

lionheart_2281 wrote:

you can also choose to hide other annoying things such as Racoon City’s signature picture that takes up half the screen (haven’t seen it for years until he recently changed it)


Your web browser has to be extremely short and wide for my signature to take up half the screen.


(I don’t know why in the world you would have your browser set so short and wide.)  alt=:" />


problem_right_there


I often think of that quote but had forgot who it came from.
But i want to know which episode its from.
One of my favourites is this one

The Journal of Alternative Facts TM

"It is critical that there is a credible academic source for the growing and important discipline of alternative facts. This field of study will just keep winning, and we knew that all the best people would want to be on board. There is a real risk in the world today that people might be getting their information about science from actual scientists"

 

 

 

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Thought you were joking. Just turned off my adblocker and wow…ads between some replies even… Yeah no thanks

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since i use Brave, i did not know what you folks are talking about.
so…with Chrome, i went to CPF. now i remember why i use Brave.

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Lou Minescence wrote:
I wonder if the CPF Facebook page went with the sale ?

It did.

Bob_McBob wrote:
Lou Minescence wrote:
I wonder if the CPF Facebook page went with the sale ?

Someone on CPF already asked about this, and yes it did.

I vaguely remember that comment. Wink

dealgrabber2002 wrote:
Anyone check cpf lately? It’s ads galore. I won’t be visiting that site anymore.

It’s been like that for years.

raccoon city wrote:

dealgrabber2002 wrote:

Anyone check cpf lately? It’s ads galore. I won’t be visiting that site anymore.


I just went there with an adblocker, and of course it looked fine.  alt=:" />

This ^^^^ Adblockers for the win!

As long as Virgil isn’t there anymore, I’m fine with the new ownership.

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You can sell a Facebook page? Talk about selling bottled air.

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zoulas wrote:
You can sell a Facebook page? Talk about selling bottled air.

Pretty sure “ownership” of a FB page just means a person is in charge of it. Marky Mark owns it.

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zoulas wrote:
You can sell a Facebook page? Talk about selling bottled air.

Just like any ad, or propaganda. Bottled air pays big, I guess.

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At least a full web site includes a dns name and content. That has value.

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