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Bulging Lithium Ion Polymer Battery

The battery to my smart phone is bulging.

I have quit using it, and know that it is dangerous.

I know that I should take it to battery recycling center.

What should I do with it before then?

(I don't think I have anything fireproof to put it in.)

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Toss it in a bucket of salt water.

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I put it in a terracotta pot outside for the time being.

I'll put it in a bucket of salt water later.

How much salt per gallon of water?

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half a cup of salt per gallon should give you sea water, a little more would probably be better. let it sit outside overnight to completely discharge the battery.

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They’re never “safe” until you disarm them.

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Lightbringer wrote:
They’re never “safe” until you disarm them.

the smoke smells like hydrogen fluoride (hydrofluoric acid) which is essentially a poison gas that destroys your lungs.

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That’s why you do it outside. LOL

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Same happened to me. No urgent action, just necessary precaution.
That thing did not bulge overnight, it took weeks, maybe even months.
Don’t do anything out of the ordinary with it. Like stabbing or submerging it.

These are chemical processes.
IF you want to take action, put it in a freezer bag, and put the bag in the fridge.
But putting it in a terracotta pot (out of reach and out of rain) is also fine.
Just dispose of it as soon as possible (not talking minutes, but days).

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All it means is you’re overcharging it —- I’ll bet pretty high to make it bulge —-the easiest way to make it safe — hook a light bulb to it or something that will drain it to 0v—something to thing about is —your phone might make toast to a brand new battery if it’s overcharging

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I did some more research, and I'm NOT going to do this:

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I'll put it in a bucket of salt water later.

I'll take the bulging battery to a proper recycling center.  :THUMBS-UP:

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Why not just give it to a battery recycling location?

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zoulas wrote:

Why not just give it to a battery recycling location?

That's what I just said I was going to do.  :FACEPALM:

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For the same reason you wanted it out of your house you should not bring it into any other building in its current state. It should be fully discharged. Put it in a small plastic container with just enough water to cover it and put in a half teaspoon of salt. Let it sit outside for a day in the saltwater. Then rinse it with fresh water. At that point you ca.n take it anywhere you want.

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Oli wrote:
For the same reason you wanted it out of your house you should not bring it into any other building in its current state. It should be fully discharged. Put it in a small plastic container with just enough water to cover it and put in a half teaspoon of salt. Let it sit outside for a day in the saltwater. Then rinse it with fresh water. At that point you ca.n take it anywhere you want.

I would like to think that locations that accept batteries for recycling have adequate safety measures in place. The batteries they accept are all old, malfunctioning, expired batteries. Its likely 90% of them are bulging in some way.

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Bulging indicates it is damaged. So it is a DDR battery. Watch the video till the end. DDR batterys should not be transported or stored with other batteries. Home Depot Lowe’s and Staples apparently all have containers for regular recycled batteries but not DDR batteries https://youtu.be/LtTqFRIbjMs

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Oli wrote:

For the same reason you wanted it out of your house you should not bring it into any other building in its current state. It should be fully discharged. Put it in a small plastic container with just enough water to cover it and put in a half teaspoon of salt. Let it sit outside for a day in the saltwater. Then rinse it with fresh water. At that point you ca.n take it anywhere you want.

Like I said, I did some research, and I am NOT going to do that.

"Do not put/store the battery in water."

https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/What_to_do_with_a_swollen_battery

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I looked online for instructions on exactly how much salt to add to the water, and I couldn't find one website (reputable looking or not) that recommended putting the battery in any type of water.  :O

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So, Oli, if you have a source, please provide a link.

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I think I'll order a fireproof & explosion proof LiPo bag to transport the battery.

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Same thing happened to the battery in an iPhone 6 I had.
Took it to an Apple shop to have the battery replaced.
They flatly refused to even handle the phone, said it was forbidden by Apple to handle it doing a swap. Apparently really dangerous.

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Same thing happened to the battery in an iPhone 6 I had. Took it to an Apple shop to have the battery replaced. They flatly refused to even handle the phone, said it was forbidden by Apple to handle it doing a swap. Apparently really dangerous.

So YOU had to solve a problem that occurred with one of THEIR products?
And you were forced to fix this problem on your own?
On such a moment I wish I live in the USA and sue their pants off.

Take a look at this LINK

The links mentions a cracked screen, which is not uncommon with a bulging battery.

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raccoon city wrote:

I think I’ll order a fireproof & explosion proof LiPo bag to transport the battery.

I don’t know your “situation”, but where I live I can go up and down a dozen times to the recycling facility before the explosion proof bag I order arrives at my doorstep.

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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Henk4U2 wrote:
raccoon city wrote:

I think I'll order a fireproof & explosion proof LiPo bag to transport the battery.

I don't know your "situation", but where I live I can go up and down a dozen times to the recycling facility before the explosion proof bag I order arrives at my doorstep.

Yep, but I'm in no hurry.

In this case, I'd rather be safe than quick.

(The potentially dangerous battery isn't going anywhere.)  :BEER:

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Henk4U2 wrote:
RollerBoySE wrote:
Same thing happened to the battery in an iPhone 6 I had. Took it to an Apple shop to have the battery replaced. They flatly refused to even handle the phone, said it was forbidden by Apple to handle it doing a swap. Apparently really dangerous.

So YOU had to solve a problem that occurred with one of THEIR products?
And you were forced to fix this problem on your own?
On such a moment I wish I live in the USA and sue their pants off.

Take a look at this LINK

The links mentions a cracked screen, which is not uncommon with a bulging battery.

To be fair:
They did take care of the phone and sent it to destruction.

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RollerBoySE wrote:

To be fair:

They did take care of the phone and sent it to destruction.

They destroyed the phone?

Couldn't they just remove the battery and leave the phone alone?

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raccoon city wrote:

RollerBoySE wrote:

To be fair:


They did take care of the phone and sent it to destruction.


They destroyed the phone?


Couldn’t they just remove the battery and leave the phone alone?

According to Apples instructions, they were not allowed to do that.
They did offer me to just take it back with me.
But I was just glad to get rid of it.
(Opening up an iPhone does put stress on the phone and battery, and I wasn’t that interested in taking the risk myself.)

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RollerBoySE wrote:

(Opening up an iPhone does put stress on the phone and battery, and I wasn't that interested in taking the risk myself.)

Okay, I didn't know that.  :THUMBS-UP:

I have an inexpensive, but nice for the price, android phone, and removing the battery is no big deal for my phone.

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raccoon city wrote:

RollerBoySE wrote:

(Opening up an iPhone does put stress on the phone and battery, and I wasn’t that interested in taking the risk myself.)


Okay, I didn’t know that.  alt=:" />


I have an inexpensive, but nice for the price, android phone, and removing the battery is no big deal for my phone.

iPhones are sealed units glued together, so opening them up normally includes both force and heat.
Not something for the faint of heart close to a dodgy battery…

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Have you been IN some recycling collection stations? Often big bins, overflowing with batteries that people make no effort to prep in any way for safety. At least they are usually steel.

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Search,,, battery recycling fires. Images or in general or news.

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