I’d vote for anduril 2 14500 only with RGB aux. usbc recharging is fine but not completely necessary. would love a single emitter and high efficiency driver as well. Maybe some knurling since it looks slippery as it is. Would def pay more for those options! Could be the light a lot of us are looking for!
Option 3. No built in charging. Doesn’t have to be a triple, single would be fine. Anduril 2.
Either no aux leds, or RGB. I wouldn’t want a light with single color aux that I was stuck with. One of the things I really don’t like about the current Emisar lineup is the single color lighted switches.
Robust design if it uses an inner tube like the FW series. Mine never did work right, and it’s totally put me off of that design- even though I do find it aesthetically pleasing.
A good switching driver, Anduril2 and tail-switch will make this an absolute instant buy.
About option 2 vs 3… I don’t feel strongly either way. But for an efficient, 100% duty cycle boost driver: oh yes! make it as long as you need to! This will make the small battery last longer in lower modes.
About triple vs single LED, at 2A output there is over 20% gain in lumen from using 3 LEDs vs only 1,looking at some lm/A curves. Vf also stays a bit lower (good with a boost driver). But I would be happy with a single LED with a throwy TIR too.
Anduril is perfect for ramping, as well as managing heat and brightness (and everything else). Staying in simpleUI, or configuring it how you like and disable turbo (can now be done in the UI) for those that don’t want a hotrod or need to restrain themselves. 2A-3A should be fine with a 14500.
Beyond that the following would be nice to have: deep carry one way clip (two way clips are awful), flashing pads and a firm switch with sufficiently high activation force (to prevent accidental activation).
For me a 14500 triple is pointless. I find that 330 lumen with a reflector is more practical than a 1000 lumen triple that runs hot, sucks the battery and can’t throw worth a damn. Just my 2c
I get it, big numbers sell better.
It really depends on how you use your lights.
I typically use my lights at close range indoors. A tiny triple with a bright floody beam, like an FWAA, is vastly more useful for me than than a light with a relatively small but throwy hotspot.
For me a 14500 triple is pointless. I find that 330 lumen with a reflector is more practical than a 1000 lumen triple that runs hot, sucks the battery and can't throw worth a damn. Just my 2c I get it, big numbers sell better.
It really depends on how you use your lights. I typically use my lights at close range indoors. A tiny triple with a bright floody beam, like an FWAA, is vastly more useful for me than than a light with a relatively small but throwy hotspot.
And a bright Turbo allows for quick scans of a large area outdoors. I also don't use my compact EDCs on sustained High or Turbo for long, it's just not what they were designed for.
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Please include a RGB auxiliary light please! This feature will set your little triple apart from all the rest. I will buy 1 maybe without, but with RGB’s I will buy many over time!!
I vote for #3. Make it long enough to accept a longer battery with a USB charge port built in to the battery. No charge port on the light. Anduril is a must for me. AA compatibility would make it versatile, but you can’t have it all apparently.
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I’d favor #2, but no charging port and no aux lights. Please design with a straight tube. Efficiency is the main thing. Anduril is good, though I’d be fine with Narsil.
Option 3 with 14500 and RGB aux lights. Having onboard USBc charging would be nice to have as to differentiate from other 14500 lights on the market, but not if it makes it as long as the 18650 lights
Some other general thoughts: Driver: I don’t know how possible it is at this stage, but a driver with a regulated, flat output would be fantastic and would really elevate this light into a must have. From my experience owning an FWAA, an efficient driver is preferable in a light of this size. The FWAA is inefficient with its FET+1 7315 driver and it has poor battery life at any level above the regulated 350mAh.
Regulated and good efficiency is a must for me. That’s why I love the most recent series of Fireflies flashlights that use the LUME driver. I use them almost everyday for work and as ceiling bounce lights. But FF stopped producing the LUME driver due to chip shortage for over a year already. I also love Olight flashlights because they are soooo efficient and have the best regulation despite they only come in CW low CRI.
I have almost a dozen Lumintop FW flashlights but I hardly ever use them because of the poor regulation and poor efficiency. They are simply toys unlike the FF lights that are actually usable for work purposes.
USB-C would make the lights giftable.
Also please have a Nichia 519A 9080 option. These new emitters are brighter, more efficient, and better tint vs the SST-20 95CRI.
thank you for all ,In order to advance the project faster, we will probabile choosing option 3 and completing the prototype (with single aux )assembly this week
thank you for all ,In order to advance the project faster, we will probabile choosing option 3 and completing the prototype (with single aux )assembly this week
I look forward to seeing it! It’s impossible to satisfy everyone, but I think this will make a lot of people happy and deliver a small, relatively inexpensive, feature rich, high performance flashlight.
Any rough idea of when the WK10 is planned to be released?
thank you for all ,In order to advance the project faster, we will probabile choosing option 3 and completing the prototype (with single aux )assembly this week
Those look great. I think I’d go for the orange but the cyan is nice, too…actually if there were a medium blue between the cyan and blue in the photo, I’d get that.
The ring on the green light…is that tape or a silicone band? Looks neat.
Just my thoughts…
Option 3. No built in charging. Doesn’t have to be a triple, single would be fine. Anduril 2.
Either no aux leds, or RGB. I wouldn’t want a light with single color aux that I was stuck with. One of the things I really don’t like about the current Emisar lineup is the single color lighted switches.
Robust design if it uses an inner tube like the FW series. Mine never did work right, and it’s totally put me off of that design- even though I do find it aesthetically pleasing.
For me option 3 would be fine, although I’d prefer USB-C charging as well. And please multicolor AUX light (and programming pads
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YES. In the Emisar/Noctigon layout!
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14500 with charging so it can be gifted
A good switching driver, Anduril2 and tail-switch will make this an absolute instant buy.
About option 2 vs 3… I don’t feel strongly either way. But for an efficient, 100% duty cycle boost driver: oh yes! make it as long as you need to! This will make the small battery last longer in lower modes.
About triple vs single LED, at 2A output there is over 20% gain in lumen from using 3 LEDs vs only 1,looking at some lm/A curves. Vf also stays a bit lower (good with a boost driver). But I would be happy with a single LED with a throwy TIR too.
Anduril is perfect for ramping, as well as managing heat and brightness (and everything else). Staying in simpleUI, or configuring it how you like and disable turbo (can now be done in the UI) for those that don’t want a hotrod or need to restrain themselves. 2A-3A should be fine with a 14500.
I want in on the first order please!
I would prefer option 3. Andúril 2 is a must.
Beyond that the following would be nice to have: deep carry one way clip (two way clips are awful), flashing pads and a firm switch with sufficiently high activation force (to prevent accidental activation).
It really depends on how you use your lights.
I typically use my lights at close range indoors. A tiny triple with a bright floody beam, like an FWAA, is vastly more useful for me than than a light with a relatively small but throwy hotspot.
And a bright Turbo allows for quick scans of a large area outdoors. I also don't use my compact EDCs on sustained High or Turbo for long, it's just not what they were designed for.
Here for the budget torches, HiCRI only except for funlights.
I vote #1 or #3, but am more interested in whether the TS21 will be “fixed,” as well as what a Wurkkos remix of the LT1 or LT1S might look like.
Unless Sofirn is keeping the lanterns for itself, I’d like to see what a more adventurous brand like Wurkkos would offer in that space.
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Please include a RGB auxiliary light please! This feature will set your little triple apart from all the rest. I will buy 1 maybe without, but with RGB’s I will buy many over time!!
I vote for #3. Make it long enough to accept a longer battery with a USB charge port built in to the battery. No charge port on the light. Anduril is a must for me. AA compatibility would make it versatile, but you can’t have it all apparently.
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Option #3 here…
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I’d favor #2, but no charging port and no aux lights. Please design with a straight tube. Efficiency is the main thing. Anduril is good, though I’d be fine with Narsil.
14500, anduril 2 with the aux RGB single in the center and a screwed on clip rather that the loose clip please
Option 3 with 14500 and RGB aux lights. Having onboard USBc charging would be nice to have as to differentiate from other 14500 lights on the market, but not if it makes it as long as the 18650 lights
Regulated and good efficiency is a must for me. That’s why I love the most recent series of Fireflies flashlights that use the LUME driver. I use them almost everyday for work and as ceiling bounce lights. But FF stopped producing the LUME driver due to chip shortage for over a year already. I also love Olight flashlights because they are soooo efficient and have the best regulation despite they only come in CW low CRI.
I have almost a dozen Lumintop FW flashlights but I hardly ever use them because of the poor regulation and poor efficiency. They are simply toys unlike the FF lights that are actually usable for work purposes.
USB-C would make the lights giftable.
Also please have a Nichia 519A 9080 option. These new emitters are brighter, more efficient, and better tint vs the SST-20 95CRI.
I’m hunting something with that LUME driver for the reasons you said. I really want to try it.
Currently searching to buy:
Fireflies NOV-Mu 21 in 2000K
More Body colors, I would love some colors like my ts21
If we’re throwing crazy thoughts.. special edition with some 519sDecision has already been made.
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thank you for all ,In order to advance the project faster, we will probabile choosing option 3 and completing the prototype (with single aux )assembly this week
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I look forward to seeing it! It’s impossible to satisfy everyone, but I think this will make a lot of people happy and deliver a small, relatively inexpensive, feature rich, high performance flashlight.
Any rough idea of when the WK10 is planned to be released?
Looking forward to this.
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single color aux leds, tried 7 colors, which better?
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I like the gold, ice blue and orange equally.
RGB are more common colours, think that is why the others stand out to me.
BTW, I like the form of the light but wonder if there is a deep carry clip going to be available?
Those look great. I think I’d go for the orange but the cyan is nice, too…actually if there were a medium blue between the cyan and blue in the photo, I’d get that.
The ring on the green light…is that tape or a silicone band? Looks neat.
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