[Review] ThruNite Archer Pro

Recently I had reviewed the ThruNite Archer Mini. Now ThruNite has sent me its “big brother”, the ThruNite Archer Pro.

This review is also available in German on my website: SammysHP Blog › ThruNite Archer Pro



Supplied parts and hardware

Already the box has a very similar appearance to the Archer Mini. You’ll get the flashlight, an attached dual-way clip, a USB-C charging cable and the manual (CN, EN, JP, DE).



Compared to the Archer Mini, the Archer pro is larger and heavier, even compared to some other 14500 flashlights:

Archer Mini Archer Pro
Length: 83 mm 97 mm
Diameter: 16.7 mm 21 mm
Weight: 36 g 65 g

Due to its elegant design it still feels small, though.



The dual-way clip is mostly identical to the one from the Archer Mini, just larger. But the Archer Pro is almost too heavy to use it clipped to a cap and the small opening makes it hard to use one-handed. You can observe the trend to include dual-way clips with large flashlights with many manufacturers. Don’t know what the use-case of this combination is.



As with the Archer Mini, there are no other ways to attach the flashlight. Nothing to attach a lanyard, no magnet.



For charging the internal battery you can unscrew a sleeve around the head to expose a USB-C charging port. This is a secure way to seal it against water and dirt. Apropos: ThruNite rates it as IPX8 (2m depth).



A status LED on the opposite side of the USB port shows the progress: red while charging, blue when finished. The internal 14500 battery with 1000 mAh is charged at around 1 A and it takes 1.5 h to fully charge it. While it is possible to turn the flashlight on while it’s charging, the user interface doesn’t work as expected. It does something, but not predictably.



Because there’s no indication for the state of charge, you might end up with an empty battery in the dark. Because the battery is built-in, the only solution is to charge it regularly or have a powerbank nearby (or another flashlight).


User interface and handling

The Archer Pro has the same rounded tailswitch that I already loved at the Archer Mini. It feels really great, has a nice click after some springy travel. Not tailstand possible, of course.



The user interface is different from the Archer Mini, which is mostly a result of having more than two levels. There’s a firefly mode with 0.41 lm and a turbo with 1022 lm. Inbetween is a mode with smooth ramping from 13 to 478 lm. So it’s not seamless and most importantly: You can’t ramp up from firefly without first turning off the flashlight and then turn it on again in the ramping mode with the last used brightness (which might be 478 lm).



The ramping itself takes around four seconds and starts one second after you pressed the button. A bit slow for my taste. At the highest and lowest brightness the flashlight will flash three times and reverse the direction. The direction is reversed also every time you release the switch. The next time it ramps in the other direction – even if the flashlight was off. This makes ramping slightly nondeterministic.



Also there’s a strobe mode and a lockout (which works very well this time because you have to hold the button for two seconds instead of 0.5 seconds for the Archer Mini).

State Action Function
off 1 click Last used brightness of ramping mode
off hold Firefly
off/on 2 click Turbo
off/on 3 click Strobe
on 1 click off
on (except firefly) hold Ramping
Firefly 2s hold Lockout
Lockout 2s hold Firefly


Illumination

The Archer Pro comes with a Cree XP-L2 in an orange-peel reflector. This is different from the Archer Mini which came with an SST-20 in a TIR optic.



The small reflector results in a large spot with smooth transition into the bright spill. Clearly you can see the tintshift from center to the outside.



Although the flashlight is labeled as “cold white”, it’s more like 5500 K – with a very ugly green tint. I mean, the SST-20 was bad, but usable. This XP-L2 is just pure green. Slightly better in turbo, but still visible.

Here’s a comparison between the Sofirn SP10 Pro (Samsung LH351D 5000 K), ThruNite Archer Pro (Cree XP-L2) and ThruNite Archer Mini (Luminus SST-20).



Driver and runtime

The runtime is slightly disappointing. After less than half a minute the output drops significantly, although the flashlight feels only slightly warm. You can enable turbo again, but it will drop quickly again. The manual says turbo will run for 1.5 minutes, but this seems to include the ramping time as well. This is also true for the high mode. Basically this is a 200 lm flashlight.



The Archer Pro uses a buck driver without any PWM at all. When the battery gets empty and the buck regulator isn’t able to keep the current constant anymore, the flashlight starts blinking every 10 seconds. Eventually it turns off completely, so LVP is working in this sample (it wasn’t working in my Archer Mini).


Conclusion

Nice design, feels great in the hand. The UI is mostly positive, but with room for improvements (full ramping range, ramp up from firefly).

Sadly the tint of the LED is a nightmare if you don’t like green. Turbo is not really usable and the built-in battery makes the flashlight less flexible.

ThruNite Archer Pro at thrunite.com

Wow. What a disappointment. Gotta get on these manufacturers about using the proper emitters.

Absolutely. There are so many nice LEDs out there. I hope ThruNite listens to the community and will upgrade this flashlight with a better emitter.

i have botht he mini and the pro and liked both of them. this week the pro started flickering so I emailed thrunite and they replaced it. They did not want the original back so I decided to take it apart. There are 3 divots in the front bezel so i 3d printed a circular model that would catch all 3 and allow me to exert some force. turns out the head will twist off right below where it is labelled thrunite on the flashlight. The cell inside is a 14500, and interestingly it has a flattop with a rubber circle so it turns out there is an inner, call it bulls eye, and an otter ring which is tied to the bottom. so both are fed into the head. from the top, i have no idea how the switch is working. the two springs apparently may have been touching as I now cannot get the light to light when i put it back together and if i jam the cell in hard enough without the body it will flicker.

The last time I put the cell in the body it got very hot so a little nervous to deal with it. I may unwrap it and remove the brass top pieces but I’m thinking there is charging circuitry on top of the cell to charge from a pd charger. right now with both poles on the top it obviously cannot charge in a normal charger.

I guess the switch connects the tube to the negative pole of the battery. Normal current comes from the two contacts at the top of the battery.

I got one of these about 3 weeks ago and while it has a lot of good points, I am a bit disappointed in it and may return it. The battery is a proprietary 14500 and it looks like to get a spare, you have to get it direct from Thrunite, but I do not see it listed on their webpage. A standard 14500 or AA cell does not work. I have an Archer 1A first gen, and it is one of my favorite lights. It is not as bright as this newer one, but it is a much better flashlight. I may have to shoot an email to Thrunite.

So you were able to open it? Do you have any photos of the inside and/or battery?

Here are some pics. The light's head unscrews just below the Thrunite label. It did not take much effort on my part to do so!

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Awesome, thanks! Yeah, it’s very unfortunate that they require proprietary batteries.

Thanks for the review SammyHP, too bad about the tint-shift and odd ramping.

@mikeoz, any chance you can try disassembling the head to see if emitter can be swapped :question:

I am not a modder, but I do not see any way to get into it, at least, no obvious way. I am more than likely going to return this light and if I mess it up, it is mine! :smiley: I think this light is poorly designed, but has possibilities. If it took a standard 14500 and AA’s, it would be a keeper in my humble opinion. I would still like to know how much a spare battery for it would be, but I do not see it listed anywhere on Thrunite’s website. If a spare was available for a good price, I would consider keeping it.

Usually the light is glued and does not have a user replaceable battery. That’s why you don’t find a replacement battery on the website.