Is Anduril ever going to be "mass market"?

Is Anduril ever going to be “mass market”?

Or will it always be for light-nerds?

If not- what’s the holdup?

Requires li-ion battery?

Too complicated?

Average non-nerd sees no benefit?

Raises cost due to requiring microprocessor?

I find it too complicated to be “mass market”
Many non-Anduril lights have Li-ions and uProcessor so I don't think these are the holdup

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i wonder - what if it just included the ramping and/or step interface?
that is the part i use all the time

wle


Than it would not be Anduril :)

Safety, warranty and claims.

It's likely too much of a risk for the big brands. On warranty level, as well as too much stress on their customer support.

A lite version with just 2 mode groups (stepped and smooth ramping, and possibly 1 more option) would be possible. But thermal configuration, and other manual adjustments wouldn't be smart to include for a major manufacturer.

I’ve just read the first 5 reviews on the Amazon page for an Anduril 2 light, all of them are in a language other than English, and all of them cite how complicated it is to use.

I think it’s too involved for mainstream acceptance.

I think the answer is no. Most muggles I know who own an Anduril light find it too complex.

Yeah, I think Anduril is too complicated for most people.

All I use it for is stepless ramping and double click for turbo.

If there were an "Anduril lite" that just did those two things, then it wouldn't be too complicated for most people, but it wouldn't be "Anduril" either.

true but there is no OTHER ramping and stepping UI that i know of , at least not one i can stand!!

wle

though if you get mad and start pressing the button randomly, you can be pretty surprised that now
it doesn;t turn on
or it blinks all the time
or the lumens are limited
or it only comes on when you hold the button down

After the initial temperature configuration, if applicable, ramping and battery check are also the only things I use.

All the other features remind me of things I added to programs when I was a programmer. Neat options that 90% of the users never used or even asked for.

I absolutely love having my 2 lights with Anduril and Narsil.
In saying that, they are both configured exactly the same with smooth ramping floor to max turbo, with double click to turbo.
Q8 and FW21 Pro Copper - which I must confess (off topic) looks good with a patina. I bought it to look bling and shiny… now, I can’t wait for it to look “old”.
But to address the question at hand, no definitely not. It’s an expense for manufacturers that is not necessary for the bulk of the torch market.

IMO for Anduril lights to make it mainstream, the programming interface would have to be more ‘people friendly’.

Right now the only comparison I can think of are Casio’s G-Shocks: Yes, you can set timers, altimeters, barometers, GPS tracking using the 4 buttons on the watch but despite that, they had to evolve and create a more “visual” interface via mobile phone app.

Maybe in the future, there will be a way where the flashlight will interface (USB-C port? Bluetooth?) with a phone/computer/tablet into an app which can guide users where they are in what setting.

Maybe in the future, flashing the UI would be as easy as plugging into a USB port and updating an app (like smartwatches or dashcams).

I also agree with what was previously said — the UI would be another cause of concern for warranty or customer service.

For me, the Anduril thing went bad with Version 2. Some interesting functions work different (manual memory), and hybrid memory is a PITA. With some clicks I can mess it up, and no, I cannot remember how configuration works and it is not immediately obvious from the charts.

I’m too old for this, I know.

Sofirn has a nice ramping UI btw. Narsil has no good temperature regulation, and Crescendo, while extremely good, seems to have no audience since apparently only Mountain Electronics offers it.

Most people I know do not have any interest in flashlights other than emergency use, or to find something under the couch.
They have one or two in the kitchen junk draw and are happy with an on off user interface.
I have more flashlights than teeth. I use them so infrequently I don’t remember the UI’s anyway.

ANDURIL used in higher end lights Already covered extensively.
Just changing the question above slightly doesn’t change the end result. FC11 has ramping or stepping mode. Memory. Press and hold for Moon 2 lms from off. Double click at any time for turbo. The only thing it’s missing is a good accurate battery check.

I don’t need all those options that Anduril has , I would never use them.

I like simple UI’s.All I need is Low-Medium and MAX and the ability to disable the step down.

My custom FET Driver in my NI40 does just that. I have it set for 3%/50% and 100. Basically just use 100 And then 3% to cool down.

For an EDC add moonlight.

P.S. That is my new pup Nikko. :+1: He has heterochromia. Right eye is blue, left eye is light Brown. :sunglasses:

He’s a great dog, he is a rescue.

No. I have a few Emisar D4’s for fun, but for lights I use more often I avoid products with Anduril firmware.

I object to this. I had one Anduril light, learned to use it, gave it away, and won’t own another.

But as long as a connection is being made to nerdiness, here is what Anduril reminds me of…

Maybe 10 or 15 years ago, in the desktop linux space, this hot new desktop composter came out called “Compiz”.
In basic terms, it took all your desktop spaces, and it mapped them onto a spinnable gelatinous cube. All your windows on the faces of the cube would either jiggle or ripple or catch fire when swapped. As the hot new thing, it ended up on a lot of linux machines. Everyone had to have it. It was so obviously cooler than windows XP. Sometimes I would grab the cube and jiggle it as a nervous habit while waiting for something to load.

Then we all realized it was sort of silly and moved on to significantly more boring UX styles. Compiz still exists, but nobody uses it. The more useful components were cannibalized as part of open source evolution.

As adults, we are just as enthralled by new toys as toddlers.

Convoy have one, though the ramping is too fast at lower output levels. Sofirn/Wurkkos also have a ramping/stepped UI.