OK Knives is scamming the post office (and us)?

My OK knife order arrived and I had a USPS package slip directing me to pick it up at my local post office. When I got there I had to pay the delivery postage ($5.40) for the small package (1 knife) and the post office said the vendor was illegally reusing old postage labels to avoid paying the postage. That’s why I owed the postage.

I don’t fully understand the situation because I see 2 labels. The first label applied directly to the box looks like the China Post label and it is addressed to me. But a 2nd USPS label was placed over-top the China Post label and it shows a shippers address of Ft. Worth, TX. At first I thought this meant the box was shipped directly to their Ft. Worth contact who then re-shipped it to me using fraudulent USPS labels but the oddly the original tracking number shows the routing of the box all the way from China to me. I would expect a gap if the original label was only used to get it to Texas.

Does this make sense to anybody? I know some of you are gurus at the shipping stuff.

Are they the ok knife that sells fake spyderco and benchmades?

> Does this make sense to anybody?

yes

> The first label applied directly to the box looks like the China Post label and it is addressed to me.

yes, china shipped you a package, but, it went thru a Shipping Partner named Pitney Bowes, based in Irving Texas.

they receive batches of packages in bulk groupings from customs clearance, at their shipping hub. There the individual packages are sorted and reshipped by handing off to USPS

the tracking from china sometimes tracks all the way through to final destination. other times a separate USPS tracking number is generated, for the last leg of the delivery process

the only weird part in your story, is the reused label

I do not pay additional postage to receive packages. That is a mistake, and is wrong, and you are right to want it to arrive without extra charges

I hope you get it sorted out… you should not have had to pay anything for extra postage

Something does not add up, you can not reuse a label, duplicate tracking will be flagged right away. I think the scam is not on china post or the seller side. it may not be a scam at all, just some workers incompetence. i had numerous packages come the same way, another label was put over the ones from china, not once i had to pay extra.

Yes

I am going off what the post office told me when I picked it up. I’m not overly concerned about the $5.40 although I’ve never had any of my other chinese knife or flashlight orders show up as postage due.

I did contact OK Knives:

me: “My package arrived today but I had to pay $5.40 for shipping charges. You were supposed to have paid the shipping charges as part of the purchase. I would like you to refund $5.40 to my Paypal account or I will dispute the charges. ”
OK response: “Your order didn’t pay for transportation ”

and then:
me: “You didn’t charge shipping. It was listed as $0.”
OK response: “Then why do you need to pay the freight?”

and then:
me: “Because you did not pay for shipping. You used a falsified USPS shipping label so they asked me to make payment when the item was delivered. ”
OK response: “This is the first time I’ve heard of such a situation. Are you mistaken? You have their receipt?”

After this I stopped going back and forth with them because (1) I know the type of people I am dealing with when I choose to buy cheap chinese clone gear, and (2) I’m still confused myself over how this could be occurring.

Thanks for the info about shipping via Pitney Bowes. Although in the past the chinese label is sufficient to get it delivered to me. All I can think is that the the original chinese label didn’t actually have postage so Pitney had to apply a regular shipping label when it entered their system?

My post office said it was happening a lot. Another worker there held up another package to someone else in the same situation. Don’t know if it went thru Pitney or not.

sounds like the USPS shipping label Pitney Bowes purchased from USPS is the issue

maybe pitney bowes is the one that owes you a refund…

I recently received a free return shipping label for a company within the USA. The USPS tracking on the label number, said the item was delivered 6 months ago, in San Diego. But I am not in California… I blame USPS

eventually the tracking got corrected, and the item did reach the destination…

hopefully you get your refund, from USPS or Pitney…

it does not sound like OKnives had anything to do with the issue that occured after the package arrived in USA

I suppose it makes sense that someone selling phony counterfeit knives would find a way to counterfeit shipping labels. I wonder if OK knives would take counterfiet money as payment?

I think the label OK put on the package worked exactly as it was intended. The package arrived in USA, cleared USA customs, and Pitney Bowes then transported it to their Texas Hub.

At that point the original shipping label printed overseas for OK shipping, was no longer involved.

Pitney then put a USA generated label on, that is defective. This is between Pitney and USPS… has absolutely nothing to do with the International shipper.

The fact the USPS worker indicated this is a recurring issue, tells me the problems are being caused within the USPS label issuing system.

USPS issued a defective label to Pitney, in Texas… that label was not made overseas.

The problem is at the USPS. They got paid by Pitney, and then made you pay again. USPS got paid twice.