Solarforce L2's just arrived. Wasn't happy, Am Now!

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Solarforce L2's just arrived. Wasn't happy, Am Now!

Well the Chinese can ship quickly!  HongKong To UK 3 days! That's quicker than UK to UK!  Anyway just wanted to also mention what a nice light they are for the money.  Well I say light but I mean body.  I do however have to mention, whilst the sand one, which is really bronze, is very well finished the grey one is not!  There is some bad machining on this body and the anodizing is not good it has black spots all over the head.  I have emailed Jo and I'm sure he will sort it as they do seem to have very good CS.  

 

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Does anyone know how to post pics?

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See here": http://budgetlightforum.com/node/14 .  Note the use of the "width" & "height" fields.  If using Photobucket, copy the "Direct Link" to use for the image URL.

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garrybunk wrote:

See here": http://budgetlightforum.com/node/14

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Thanks Garry,  I just found it, but It looks like I need Flickr or something like that so no can do.

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I revised my post above by the way.  Just sign up for a free www.photobucket.com account.  It's easy to use.  I'd also recommend resizing photos (or decreasing quality a little bit) to save on the file size (so you don't hit your account limit too quickly and also so the photos can load a little quicker). 

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garrybunk wrote:

I revised my post above by the way.  Just sign up for a free www.photobucket.com account.  It's easy to use.  I'd also recommend resizing photos (or decreasing quality a little bit) to save on the file size (so you don't hit your account limit too quickly and also so the photos can load a little quicker). 

-Garry

 

Ok thanks Garry and Jeansy, going to give it a go.

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Ok here goes!

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Is that OK?  Can everyone seen them Ok?

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P.S. thanks guy for the linkWink

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Yep!  See 'em just fine!

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Yeah good pics of some shoddy work! Seems Solarforce really are slipping... Sad

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Yeah good pics of some shoddy work! Seems Solarforce really are slipping... Sad

 

Yeah that's what I thought.  I sometimes I wonder if I am being a little fussy, but then I ask myself 'would I send some of my work out like that?'  It probably looks worse in real life because I am no photographer! 

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Nah that's not fussy, that's maybe what you could expect from 501/2 knockoffs 

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I am waiting a sand and grey L2 too. I would hate if they came like this.

Hope they solve your problem.

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I am waiting a sand and grey L2 too. I would hate if they came like this.

Hope they solve your problem.

 

The question has been asked many times, Is it sand or bronze?  Well mine is bronze, I would have like it to be sand.  Don't get me wrong though, the torches seem very good, strong switch, nice fit and finish, apart from the grey one.  I'm glad I got them, but will feel better when grey one is sorted.

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Marc:

Pics look great! One suggestion: edit your post, click on the photo (you'll see little boxes on each corner of the image), then click on the photo tree. Go to the appearance tab, change first dimension box to 100% (or smaller, make sure you enter the % sign) and zero out the second box. This resizes the photo to fit anyone's screen, within the dimensions of the post - see below:

 

I have a black L2P and a gray L2 on the way. Sure hope they look better than this!

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Where did you order them from? solarforce direct?

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xed888 wrote:

Where did you order them from? solarforce direct?

Yes

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Where did you order them from? solarforce direct?

Yeah Solarforce sales.  The bronze one is OK, and it is bronze.  I have just been on there website to compare and they are not alike.  I like the one on the website, it's a nice muted tan colour.  The solarforce logo is a little high and therefore not centered.  But the build quality is Quite good.  I must also point out that I bought a SS bezel, the $2.50 one and that is not very well made.  It has sharp pieces sticking out.  I can fix this, no probs, but you should not have to.  

Yesterday I received a Jetbeam BC40 and there is a massive difference! The jetbeam looks like it has been made by very sophisticated robots wearing cashmere gloves.  The Solarforce however looks like it had been made on a lathe from the Victorian era, that in turn, has been operated by a man in a very greasy apron.  There is also a lot of scratches on the inside of the battery tube, just where the battery enters.  If you look closely there are tiny dings which have been anodized over.  It's as if they are literally spat out of a machine, from a height and ping! into a large bin, where they rattle around for a bit.  

I know the jetbeam is more expensive, but I paid $40 from DD if you get the L2p XML it is $32 and the prices go higher as you go up the model range. That's before you realise that the L2 is not really designed for high output like the Jetbeam.  So I'm just trying to justify why I am comparing the two.

I don't think I would buy another.

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Between rides, I have tried what you said but cannot get it to work.  Sorry.

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marcl wrote:

 The Solarforce however looks like it had been made on a lathe from the Victorian era, that in turn, has been operated by a man in a very greasy apron.

Marc.

LOL!  Loved that description!  Such vivid imagery!

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Wow, Marc!  That is really some horrible stuff!  I don't think I've EVER seen a light that poorly machined from any Chinese maker before.  I bet you could easily poke a knife tip through the battery tube at that thread spot.  Maybe even a fingernail if pushed in the right place.  And the horrible pitting in the aluminum...just terrible. Frown

I can't imagine they would refuse to send you another one if they saw those pics.  They should be ashamed.

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Wow, Marc!  That is really some horrible stuff!  I don't think I've EVER seen a light that poorly machined from any Chinese maker before.  I bet you could easily poke a knife tip through the battery tube at that thread spot.  Maybe even a fingernail if pushed in the right place.  And the horrible pitting in the aluminum...just terrible. Frown

I can't imagine they would refuse to send you another one if they saw those pics.  They should be ashamed.

On the first pic, what I am trying to show, taking in to account my photography skills, is the scratch on the battery tube.  It looks like its been placed in a vice and turned a few degrees.  Not good.Cry

As for inserting a knife tip between the tail cap and battery tube (if that's what you mean) That I like, you see Foy mentioned that the tail cap and body diameter don't match.  Well that's because the cap over laps, meaning you can extend the length by up to 6mm without showing the O-ring, by not screwing the cap all the way.  Simply put there should be no problems with different length cells.

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Wow, Marc!  That is really some horrible stuff!  I don't think I've EVER seen a light that poorly machined from any Chinese maker before.  I bet you could easily poke a knife tip through the battery tube at that thread spot.  Maybe even a fingernail if pushed in the right place.  And the horrible pitting in the aluminum...just terrible. Frown

I can't imagine they would refuse to send you another one if they saw those pics.  They should be ashamed.

On the first pic, what I am trying to show, taking in to account my photography skills, is the scratch on the battery tube.  It looks like its been placed in a vice and turned a few degrees.  Not good.Cry

As for inserting a knife tip between the tail cap and battery tube (if that's what you mean) That I like, you see Foy mentioned that the tail cap and body diameter don't match.  Well that's because the cap over laps, meaning you can extend the length by up to 6mm without showing the O-ring, by not screwing the cap all the way.  Simply put there should be no problems with different length cells.

Marc.

Ahhh...no, what I meant was you could poke a knife right into the battery tube on the spot where you can see the threads through the machining because the aluminum is so thin.  Almost thin enough where you could even poke a fingernail through it.
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marcl wrote:

JohnnyMac wrote:

Wow, Marc!  That is really some horrible stuff!  I don't think I've EVER seen a light that poorly machined from any Chinese maker before.  I bet you could easily poke a knife tip through the battery tube at that thread spot.  Maybe even a fingernail if pushed in the right place.  And the horrible pitting in the aluminum...just terrible. Frown

I can't imagine they would refuse to send you another one if they saw those pics.  They should be ashamed.

On the first pic, what I am trying to show, taking in to account my photography skills, is the scratch on the battery tube.  It looks like its been placed in a vice and turned a few degrees.  Not good.Cry

As for inserting a knife tip between the tail cap and battery tube (if that's what you mean) That I like, you see Foy mentioned that the tail cap and body diameter don't match.  Well that's because the cap over laps, meaning you can extend the length by up to 6mm without showing the O-ring, by not screwing the cap all the way.  Simply put there should be no problems with different length cells.

Marc.

Ahhh...no, what I meant was you could poke a knife right into the battery tube on the spot where you can see the threads through the machining because the aluminum is so thin.  Almost thin enough where you could even poke a fingernail through it.

Ah yes, see what you mean!  I don't know what that is.  It doesn't seem to unscrew from thereUndecided 

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BetweenRides wrote:

I have a black L2P and a gray L2 on the way. Sure hope they look better than this!

seeing as how these older hosts are being cleared out at a discount, some of these imperfections aren't surprising.

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Hmm this really surprises me.  My Soloar L2m typeII finish and overal machine-work is OUTSTANDING... in many ways better than my Surefire.

Just snapped these pics this morning (56k!!).  I pack-carry these inter-changeably and use them at work, although lately I have been preferring the smaller L2m.

Surefire 6P

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Hmm this really surprises me.  My Soloar L2m typeII finish and overal machine-work is OUTSTANDING... in many ways better than my Surefire.

Just snapped these pics this morning (56k!!).  I pack-carry these inter-changeably and use them at work, although lately I have been preferring the smaller L2m.

Surefire 6P

Solarforce L2m

Well maybe they have found someone to make them cheaper.  What I have also noticed is the knurling on the bronze L2 is quite poor the diamonds are not uniform and it looks like the blade slipped.  The grey one has very good knurling.  You can see the diamonds.

Let me tell you there is nothing high quality about these 2, but that does not mean I don't like them.  At the end of the day they were $9 each I had some gift tokens at DD so I got 2 very cheap drop ins, 1 XML and 1 XPG. so when all said and done they won't stand me at much.  However If I'd paid full price for a complete torch, I would not be very happy at all.  And if these 2 are anything to go by, I WONT be getting an empty P1 for $27!Frown  You really are in Jetbeam territory.

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Marc: "The grey one has very good knurling."

From what I can see (which is quite a lot; great pics, btw) the knurling is excellent for a budget light. In the first photo there are some tiny machining marks on the half-diamonds, but overall looks like a very good job. Strange that the other nasties are so poor in comparison. Different machines/operators I guess.

Sorry you got a poor light, hopefully SF CS will see you right.

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Heres the last Solar L2 I had in my possession... nice host, and I didn't recall anything grossly-poor in terms of overall quality.  Definitely on-par with the other lights pictured, including the ones shown in the background.  Maybe their quality has dropped?  would be interesting hearing others feedback.  These pics were taken a while ago.

 

 

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Marc: "The grey one has very good knurling."

From what I can see (which is quite a lot; great pics, btw) the knurling is excellent for a budget light. In the first photo there are some tiny machining marks on the half-diamonds, but overall looks like a very good job. Strange that the other nasties are so poor in comparison. Different machines/operators I guess.

Sorry you got a poor light, hopefully SF CS will see you right.

Yeah, it's the bronze one that has bad knurling.  But I'm not to worried, like I say they will be cheap torches when finished.  They will be my only Solarforces though!Frown  I do expect to get the grey one replaced though.

P.S. Thanks for the pictures compliment!Laughing

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