XM-L zooming for 13,4$!!!

It looks like a romisen clone. Dont know the pill desing. I haven´t seen cheaper xml zooming than this

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/lie-ren-kc-01-cree-xm-l-t6-5-mode-600lm-zoom-white-led-flashlight-w-strap-black-1-x-18650-122200?r=43033281

The zooming mechanism seems to be "turn" type instead of "slide" type

Thanks for the heads up!

Ordered (with your ref-id). Let's see what kind of internals does this light have.

I'll write a review, but don't hold your breath - it's DX -> might take some months.. ;)

Looks like a Romisen RC-29 clone all grown-up.

Thanks. Sadly, your purchase didnt gave me any point at all. (see DX forums about the problems with their referral system). I dont know why I keep referring DX...

Yes, it might take some months. Even maybe they havent it in stock yet......

I will never understand why people like XM-L zoomings. They throw the same light as a very smaller XR-E.. consuming 3x energy..

have you tried a decent one?

it is simple to understand. 3 times the spot size and 3 (or more) times the flood lumens.

i just wish they'd stop making thick bezels and use that space for lens size

You can leave the "maybe" away from the above sentence.

Please refer to my earlier "How to speak DX"-post.

So even it doesn't work very well as other better XM-L zoomies, but at that price at least we have a XM-L and a host, nothing to lose here.

Some users realize that they only need absolute throw occasionally, while most of the time the flood is more useful, and in this case, lumens! Of course you can always go for a XR-E thrower if you want something that really throw.

I actually prefer an XR-E thrower. The bigger the lens and hardest driven, the better for smaller and more intense hotspot. If I want a big hotspot, I just pull the head, and if I want high lumens flood, I prefer to use some EDC light like the Balder SE-1, which has a huge hotspot and 450 lumens.

This looks like garbage.

The drive current is 1200 milliamps. This is terrible and only gets you about 350ish lumens, minus the significant amount of losses.

Heck, you could replace the XM-L with a latest rev bin XR-E and have the SAME brightness with wayyy better throw.

Whats the point of a weakly driven XM-L flood to throw? It's worthless crap unless driven at 2 Amps or more, preferably 2.5 or 3.

DX specs are garbage. :)

Current is unknown until someone tests it. My guess would be around 2A, let's see..

..and it's probably easy to change the driver to for example this.

at 1A XRE-R2 is 260+ lumens

at 1A xml-t6 is >> 350 lumens

34% more brightness w/ xm-l

and a I pretty much count on a driver swap w/ anything that has strobe, so the drive current isn't an issue for me

but i already own a few xm-l zoomies so I'll wait for someone to post a picture of the pill that's inside this one - maybe some time in 2013 if no one other than DX lists this :)

Sorta depends on what you want out of your light. I modified a Sipik SK58 with an XM-L and 2.8 amp driver. Added a reflector for extra flood and filed the body down so the head would retract closer to the emitter for a much wider flood.

The result? A beautiful, very bright and very wide flood mode with no rings or artifacts. Puts out a lot of light. More than my Sunwayman V10r on AW IMR 16340. Nearly as much as my Zebralight SC600.

In zoom mode, the light gets a lot less beautiful. Every tiny scratch and ding in the plastic reflector I used becomes visible as the aspheric lense focuses on it. Result is a perfect image of the XM-L die surrounded by a wide ugly halo. Fortunately, this ugliness is only noticeable in a white-wall test. If I'm actually outdoors and shine it on something in the distance, the beam looks fine.

However... even though this focused beam is ugly, and even though I lose half the lumens inside the bezel in this mode - it still provides enough throw to see quite a distance. Much further than my SC600. I recall reading about someone who did a similar mode and measured the throw at around 12k lux. Sure it's not the 19k lux that my Q3 emitter EDI-T T11 zoomie gives, but it makes up for it with a much better, brighter and artifact free flood.

Bottom line: An XM-L zoomie's throw is pretty bad compared to a small die high surface brightness emitter like an XRE or XPC. However, if what you want out of your light is something with great flood for close in work that just "happens" to have the ability to switch modes to give some mediocre throw, then an XM-L zoomie may be just the thing.

dthrckt: "maybe some time in 2013 if no one other than DX lists this "

:D

I shouldn't laugh though, it's probably true.. :\

look at the comments on the page for this light ;)

HA HA - DX deleted them

I posted

"please stop listing things that aren't in stock"

and mod 'cyclist' posted

"what are you talking about, this just came out" and then referred me to some about DX page

I replied w/ the line from the listing that says usually 4-7 days or whatever, and said it does not say in stock, and that if one ships before the end of the month I'll eat my shorts

guess they don't plan on shipping this month

34% more brightness is crap if the flood to throw setup eats up most of your lumens anyways, especially in throw mode. Yes the flood mode is nice, but Im perfectly happy with my XR-E in flood mode too.

If you are going to bother with an XM-L F2T, you'd at least want one driven at 2+ amps which will be a significant upgrade from your P4 or XR-E one, (in flood mode anyways)

i can agree with that last part...might was well make it 3A imo

This light seems to be available now on ebay too:
here here or here

Let's hope DX delivers it soon because i'm really interested how it does in a review ;)