Now THIS is big: Keygos? 7 x XML and 3 x 26650 IMR

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Ledsmoke wrote:

I cannot get the measurements on the body/bezel to make sense. To me the head looks wider than stated.

Does anyone have some more information on this light??

Seller confirmed to me the bezel is 55.5 mm = 2.185". It's not wide enough for 7 xml!

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My money is on the light not working with the batteries supplied

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my9221 wrote:

Seller confirmed to me the bezel is 55.5 mm = 2.185". It's not wide enough for 7 xml!

Could you elaborate?  Couldn't the LEDs just be more tightly grouped?

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Incoming.. Just some days more. Can't wait.

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The item (RB02*****81HK) left Hong Kong for its destination on 1-Apr-2012

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Hi everyone

I'm new to all of this so need some advice - I'm in my 50's but have an 11 yo son

Anyway, I bought him a torch from Kmart for his last school camp and he got bullied, had the torch taken off him, and was made to play 'piggie in the middle' trying to catch his Dad's gift. He (and I ) were a bit upset - it ruined his camp - so I got onto Ebay and thought this time round we would teach the damn rotters a lesson and buy him a better torch for the school camp coming up in a few weeks.

For what its worth its called a  "8500Lm 7x CREE XM-L XML T6 LED Flashlight Torch KEYGOS 7T6 18650 26650" and I've had to buy in addition 3 x 26650 batteries but I have no idea what any of that means , other than it cost me over $100 so I reckon it will be good

The plan is, if he again gets bullied, to make sure there are no batteries in the torch at the 'piggie in the middle ' stage - then, for him to wake up his tormentor whilst asleep in the middle of the night with a scream, and shine the now charged torch into his eyes. Will this work, or is my son just going to get more bullied??

I should mention that my sons friend also got taunted by the bullies about how sick his mother was with cancer and "ha ha your mums going to die" - how beastly children can be

Sadly, his friends Mum died whilst he was at camp

Am I going too far? I would really appreciate any comments

Many thanks and kind regards

 

I would say no-no on the "shining in the eyes".. I would say  YES, on putting your son in a self-defense class(Karate) of some sort.

I would say yes to my method too. When I was young, I was very skinny, and couldn't fight my way out a paper bag. Still skinny, and can't fight my way out a wet-paper-bag. However, the bullying stopped. One swift swing with a cue stick up aside the bullyer's head, stop that one. A straight punch to the mouth of another bullyer stopped that one too. BTW, on the last one, I was in a corner and no place to go!

That's about it..Even if he gets his butt beat, he has to do something to the bullyers. Not the shining in the eyes bit though.

Luck  to  you, and your son,

 

I was bullied 24-7 and had no recourse. (1970's) School administration was of no help. I finally started to pack and almost shot one kid and finally got left alone. No support at home either. Continued on into work life. Finally got so I couldn't work any more, and 15 psychiatric hospital stays later, had to quit in 04 and wound up on permanent disability-the damage was done.

I share this because I don't want anyone to have to go through the same thing. Only now in my 50's am I starting to make peace but I still want 'em all dead in hell.

It is very serious-be a support and for God's sake and his, get him into a self-defense course and tear into the right people to make it stop!

If I had shown up with a bigger torch, I'd have had it taken from me in short order, or stolen. I would strongly suggest that you don't go that route-he'll get bullied more.

I don't mean to hijack, but I can't keep quiet on this. I don't have kids and no way I would. I'd be the guy going to the bully's house with a shotgun.

Rich

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Electroman187 wrote:

my9221 wrote:

Seller confirmed to me the bezel is 55.5 mm = 2.185". It's not wide enough for 7 xml!

Could you elaborate?  Couldn't the LEDs just be more tightly grouped?

7 T6 XML led squeezed in 2.185" bezel is no good. It's not wide enough. Initially I thought it was seller has made a mistake on the specs, therefore I sent a message to ask if it was true! I'm very interesting to this light & now have to wait reviews to make my decision.

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Just got my today

the head is 70mm not 55mm (J12 62cm)

much less power consumption than J12 in all 5 modes even with 2 more XM-L

5 minutes on high not even warm (J12 getting quite hot in 5 minutes)

brighter with 3 cells

shorter than J12

pretty much the same brightness as J12 (on high)

 

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oatmanutd wrote:

Just got my today

the head is 70mm not 55mm (J12 62cm)

much less power consumption than J12 in all 5 modes even with 2 more XM-L

5 minutes on high not even warm (J12 getting quite hot in 5 minutes)

brighter with 3 cells

shorter than J12

pretty much the same brightness as J12

 

 

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oatmanutd wrote:

Just got my today

the head is 70mm not 55mm (J12 62cm)

much less power consumption than J12 in all 5 modes even with 2 more XM-L

5 minutes on high not even warm (J12 getting quite hot in 5 minutes)

brighter with 3 cells

shorter than J12

pretty much the same brightness as J12

 

Can you get a reading at the tail and see how much power it uses?

Richie

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Thanks for the information!

oatmanutd wrote:

pretty much the same brightness as J12 

Measured or by eye?

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_the_ wrote:
Back to topic: When I get my 7 x XM-L light, I won't give it to my kids (them being 16- and 18 y.o.). Anything this powerful, especially as a multi-cell light, is not a kid's toy!
You seriously are over-parenting your kids - I'm 17 myself and my parents don't mind my little collection of lights, never did (or even thought of doing) any silly stuff with them, such as blinding people, car drivers etc. Silly
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You seriously are over-parenting your kids - I'm 17 myself and my parents don't mind my little collection of lights, never did (or even thought of doing) any silly stuff with them, such as blinding people, car drivers etc. Silly

I think you missed my point. Smile

They are not flashaholics (at least not yet) and not interested in checking / matching cell voltages. Giving them a multi cell light would simply be too dangerous.

Edit: Let me rephrase: Giving a multi cell light to anyone not interested in checking voltages would be too dangerous. (IMHO)

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parenting advice from a 17 year old...lmao

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parenting advice from a 17 year old...lmao

Well, I'm pretty sure I know better what people of my age are like than ones who are way above my age Smile

Also that wasn't a parenting advice Wink

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exactly 1 week very fast shipping

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by eye

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Ok. Thanks!

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I always get strange results from my equipment like 5.95A from J12 with 2 cells on high, so my reading is not reliable.

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Hey oatmanutd, can you also tell me how the retailer shipped it, was it in a box and then placed in a plastic shipping envelope, did it arrive in perfect condition or was there any damage to it.  What is your general impressions of the light?  Thanks.

Richie

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Some of the users on the German forum posted a 1.5A draw at tailcap! So it isn't very bright. But of course, he might have a lemon

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I got mine today and I am quite disappointed. The Trustfire TR-J12 is clearly brighter.

The Dry and the TR-J12 have about the same brightness. The TR-J12 has the bigger spot and is visibly brighter than the Keygos.

If you have to decide for one light, then buy the Trustfire or the Dry (or both) Wink but not the Keygos unless you want to
change the driver anyway.

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Good to have you here, lumenhunter.

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lumenhunter wrote:

I got mine today and I am quite disappointed. The Trustfire TR-J12 is clearly brighter.

 

That's very disappointing to hear to say the least.  I suppose the only thing to do is figure out if a better driver can be installed in it, and assuming it's also able to deal with greater heat generation.  Since I've been looking to purchase my first 26650 capable light, I'd say the Trustfire TR-J12 is the way to go.

Thanks LumenHunter for chiming in. 

Richie

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Anyone else get one of these and\or do some testing?  Can't live up to their claims, but I'm interested nonetheless.  Ordered a Trustfire TR-J12, more trustworthy Silly  Still..

Current Lights:  Trustfire TR-J12 5x XML T6 (4500LM, 3x 26650), Generic 1x XML T6 Zoomie (1600LM, 1x 18650), 2AA Mag, 3D Mag, lots of 3AAA LEDs for car etc.

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Hi

Got my TR-J12 today. Compared it against the Keygos x7. Both with fresh eagletac 3x 18650 3100mah.

The spill is wider on the Tr J12 and equally as bright. The hotspot is slightly brighter on the Tr-J12 and similar in size.

I like the TR J12 more now. The claimed Keygos 8500 lumens is a let down compared to the trustfire 4500 lumen.

You don't need both, the Trustfire will do. 

Hope this helps.

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Awesome, Thanks Smile

Current Lights:  Trustfire TR-J12 5x XML T6 (4500LM, 3x 26650), Generic 1x XML T6 Zoomie (1600LM, 1x 18650), 2AA Mag, 3D Mag, lots of 3AAA LEDs for car etc.

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Got it yesterday. First impressions are "not so positive":

Pros:
- screw-in pill with long threads
- seemingly good thermal transfer
- the included cells do work without magnets or similar spacers
- cells seem to be protected (even though not mentioned in the wrapper??)

Cons:
- cells are too long for the light (have to loosen all parts a bit, maybe 5-10mm in total!!)
- seriously underdriven (TC current 1.75A with 3x26650 -> <0.75A / emitter -> ~2000 emitter lumens - good for longer runtimes though)
- problems working with 2x18650 / 2x26650 (doesn't always stay on when high / med - low is ok)
- included cells were not matched at all (3.72 ... 3.98V)
- many small dents in head
- bezel was badly scratched on one side (~1cm wide, through ano, bare aluminum visible)
- included charger is slooooow (0.5A for both)

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any pictures?  

Current Lights:  Trustfire TR-J12 5x XML T6 (4500LM, 3x 26650), Generic 1x XML T6 Zoomie (1600LM, 1x 18650), 2AA Mag, 3D Mag, lots of 3AAA LEDs for car etc.

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Not yet, sorry. (Didn't have any spare time today, too busy with other stuff Cry)

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thanks for the report

for modding to high power for short term use - tf j12 or keygos?

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