Turnigy LSD NiMH AA Self-discharge test

I got eight Turnigy 2200 mAh LSD AA batteries from Hobby King a month ago. These batteries are $1.29 each, but postage rates are pretty high ($6.99 shipping for just these 8 batteries, though they had tracking, were in a box instead of an envelope, and arrived pretty quickly). I posted results in the BLF Battery Data Base thread for initial discharge out of the package and capacity after recharging the batteries to full. I will test 2 batteries each at 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, and 1 year to see how well they hold their charge.

Update: Note that these batteries seem to have been replaced by Turnigy 2400 mAh LSD AA batteries for $1.59 each. Now available in 2550mAh 4-packs for $5.99. Also available from US, UK, and EU warehouses.

Cell Initial
Discharge
Initial
Capacity
Time Capacity Percent Avg
1 1667 2411 1 month 2104 87.3%
2 1654 2318 1 month 2051 88.5% 87.9%
3 1644 2299 3 months 2020 87.9%
4 1645 2385 3 months 2051 86.0% 86.9%
5 1631 2344 6 months 1950 83.2%
6 1642 2343 6 months 1927 82.2% 82.7%
7 1683 2368

13 months

1952 82.4%
8 1650 2333 13 months 1936 83.0% 82.7%
Avg. 1652 2350
1 RETEST 2411 12 months 1932 80.1%
2 RETEST 2318 12 months 1894 81.7% 80.9%

Initial: I used my C9000 to discharge the batteries out of the package at 500mA and then did a Refresh/Analyze to get the capacity readings (in mAh). Charge and discharge are both at 1000mA. The initial results were good and very consistent. Eneloops and Duraloops usually come in just under 2000. What is impressive about this is that if these batteries can maintain 75% of their charge after a year (1763 mAh), they would have more capacity than Eneloops which retain 85% of their charge (1700 mAh).

1 month results: I got the first self-discharge results today and will update this post over time. A little disappointing that they had dropped 12% in just one month given that Eneloops are only supposed to drop 15% in one year, but the results are pretty similar to the test I ran on Sony Cycle Energy 1000mAh cells which were 88.1% after a month and still came in at 74.7% after a year.

3 month results: Wow, 87%! These things barely dropped from the 1-month values. At 3 months their remaining capacity is the same or higher than freshly charged Eneloops. And these two were quite consistent: after 2 hours of discharge, they were both at 1.08V.

6 month results: 83%. Not bad at all. Because of the higher initial capacity, they are down to about what you will get out of a freshly charged Eneloop. This is better than the Sony Cycle Energy cells and seems better than the Turnigy AAA cells which were both around 80% at 6-7 months.

This review uses affiliate links that give me a store credit. I will use this credit to buy and test more batteries.

Just posted 3-month results.

thanks for the info brted!

Initial capacity and 3 month numbers actually look very good. I can't wait to see the 6 month results. Do you plan on going past 6 months?

Thanks for this brted!

Yes he's going all the way to a year.

I’ve got two pairs left from the set, so I plan on doing 6-month and 12-month tests. Then I could re-use the 1-month and 3-month pairs and do an even longer tests, but I’m not sure yet.

thankx !!

Thanks brted. I have a few of these myself that are being used in remote controls. So far happy.

Updated with 6-month results.

Start again, the new cells are 2400mAh :bigsmile:

Just kidding, thanks for doing this.

Wow, these are impressive. Do you know can they handle high currents as well as Eneloops?

Good info :star:

It looks as if your experience may have been over the cooler Winter period :quest:

I wonder how the results might vary were your testing run 6 months out of kilter :crown: - I believe warmer conditions accelerate the loss of capacity.

[Just testing the ‘Smilies’ :bigsmile: ]

EDIT: Looking again at this thread (and peering North over the equator) it appears that testing may have been over your summer - but in a cooler climate?

Old Eyes need Light: Ozzies . . you have your seasons backwards. Summer just ended here. The batteries are kept in a drawer, so the temperature isn’t that much different (8 degrees C, 13 degrees F) between Summer and Winter. I wouldn’t expect to see much difference. Only testing 2 batteries at a time isn’t a great sample size, so that might be a bigger concern.

scaru: I can’t test more than 1000mA discharge rate with the Maha, but I think there is some way to estimate the resistance of the cell, so I might try that and compare to an Eneloop. I think Eneloops are still the best bet for most.

Don’t know if I knew about the 2400mAh cells. I wonder if they are really the same thing? These all test out closer to 2400mAh than 2200mAh.

Here a guide on how to do it is.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_measure_internal_resistance

There is a formula where you use the first two charging voltages displayed on the C9000 to determine the resistance. Result is in Ohms. Only use one battery and use the default charging current of 1A by pressing Enter twice after you put the battery in. Not sure if it matters whether the battery is full or empty, cold or warm.

Ri=(V1-V2-0.09V)/1.97A

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?314949

Oh no… Now that you’ve shown me these batteries my temptation to get the TK41 has increased even more :frowning:

Thanks for the numbers though, brted!

Those are pretty darn good results for non-eneloops.

Thanks brted!

I have 8 of these myself - But Im using mine in RC Transmitters …

They are a decent battery for the money , just a shame about the shipping …

Even so , one day ill buy some more …

There are many LSD Ni-Mhs on market today - eneReady, TRONIC, no need to pay HK shipping.

Local prices bite hard : So have to pay some ones shipping , this cant be helped .