Review: TrustFire A8 from Manafont.

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Review: TrustFire A8 from Manafont.

Summary:

Battery:1 x 26650 or 1 x 18650 with optional battery spacer
Switch:Tailcap
Modes:5, Hi - Med - Low - Strobe - SOS
LED/Output:XM-L T6  / 1000 Lumen (CW)
Lens/Reflector:Glass Lens / Smooth Aluminium reflector
Tailstand:

Yes

Price paid:US$ 44.90
Date Ordered:26 March, 2012
From:Manafont Trustfire A8

 

 

DIMENSIONS:

  • Head Diameter: 34.8 mm
  • Total Length: 14.58 cm
  • Battery tube & switch width: 33 mm
  • Refelctor Width: 24.43mm
  • Reflector Depth: 21.40mm
  • Driver diameter: 17 mm

 

Pros: ★★★★★

  • Smooth reflector larger then a P60 and deeper
  • Great heatsink and heat transfer
  • Fits well in your hands
  • Good build quality and finish
  • O-rings
  • Grease on the threads
  • Comes with charger and battery in a nice box
  • CW tint
  • 17 mm driver, so you could easily swap it for a 3 mode driver like a NANJG 105C
  • Good starter combo for people who want to get into 26650 flash lights
  • Holster
  • Stainless steel bezel

 

Cons: ★★★

  • Expensive
  • Very under-driven (could easily put in a 3 or 3.5 amp driver like a NANJG 105C)
  • Charger will only charge at 1.5 amps good for large batteries like the 26650's IMO
  • USA only power cord (i used an old AU printer power cord with no problem) 
  • No lanyard only holster 
  • No spare O-rings
  • Small plasic ring protecting the led wires not gued on
  • Battery test 4314 mAh at 3 amp not the claimed 5000 mAh

 

Light Output: ★★★

This flashlight is a great thrower and also a great flooder for its size does better then my P60 size lights !

 

Current Draw from tail cap: ★★★

1 x 18650Redilast 2600 mAh 1.22 amps on high

1 x Trustfire 26650 5000 mAh 1.26 amps on high

1 x king kong 26650 4000 mAh 1.15 on high.

With my cheap DMM with skinny standard leads, might read higher with moddified leads, this same meter gives me around 1.6 amps for my ultrafire P60 drop ins where most others are getting 3 amps. I feel a 3 mode 3 amp driver swap comming on.  

 

Battery Test: ★★★★★

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/9416

 

Charger Review: ★★★★

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/9437

 

Replacement drivers: ★★★★★

NANJG 105C, NANJG 105A, KD 8 x 7135 V2, AMC7135 x 8 or any other 17mm driver of your choice.

 

Summary:  ★★★★★

Great flashlight aswome built quilty even better if you mod the driver but still very bright as is, excellent for general purpose use, good heat transfer ability. I have already brought another one as a gift since its the full package flash light, holster, battery and charger in a gift box.  NANJG 105C

A few pictures:

Comparison shot: left solarforce L2P Right Trustfire A8

 

Edited by: sb56637 on 09/02/2017 - 11:54
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We won't kill you if you post some beamshots. Smile

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Thanks Benkie. Good review. Have you had a chance to compare the beam with some of your other flashlights? Looks like this battery is also a good one. Could you possibly take some measurements of it?

 

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MRsDNF wrote:

Have you had a chance to compare the beam with some of your other flashlights? Looks like this battery is also a good one. Could you possibly take some measurements of it?

I have compaired it to my solarforce LP2 with the ultrafire 3 mode drop in The A8 give a bit more flood and throw IMO, its the closest light in power and refector size to compair it to.

I cant find my fluke DMM since i moved house to re-test my current draw but i plan to swap the drive out to a 3 mode driver as im not a fan of strobe and s.o.s modes, ill re test then.

Here is a link to the battery test

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/9416

 

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Thanks for the review, benckie.

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Thanks for the review benckie.

It looks like a perfect gift for a flashaholic to be Wink

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Hey guys please don’t trust my DMM measurements.

I was out last night trying to take beam shot’s but my camera is stuff almost all photo’s now are coming out blurry and its just impossible to take beam shots at night.

Testing last night against a L2P with a ultrafire 3 mode drop in with a redilast 2600 mAh cell tail cap current tested on my DMM to 1.35 amps and the Trustfire A8 tail cap current 1.20 amps.

The hot spot of the A8 is much tighter and brighter then the LP2 and the corona is much larger on the A8 it gives more throw and more flood if that makes sense.

Both lights heat up a lot quicker then 1.2 to 1.3 amp XM-L and put out to much light for this kind of draw i say my DMM is under reading, i still cant find my fluke since i moved so ill try and get hold of another DMM to re-test.

I used the LP2 to test it against the A8 as they are the closest in size and power i have even thought the A8 is bigger and has a slightly bigger reflector.

Compared to my ultrafire 3 mode drop in with a orange peel relector

P60 reflector size

Width: 23.11mm

Depth: 18.47mm

A8 reflector size

Width: 24.43mm

Depth: 21.40mm

This is why i compare the A8 to the P60 host as the A8 is just a beefed up P60 host with better heat transfer and better battery run time due to the 26650 battery.

I think the A8 will make a great modified light due to better heat sink, not just a drop in sitting there or wrapped in foil, the XM-L is mounted directly to the head and it soaks up the heat well. 

 

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Does any one sell this light without the charger and cell?

thanks in advance

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I may be wrong but this looks like a hell of a deal.  $45 for a 26650 XM-L with battery and charger?

It may be no JM07 (about $50) but it looks pretty well built.

 

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Does it work with unprotected cells?

There is no +B spring so I am wondering if theres enough flexibility to fit both cell types.

thanks and great review!!

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All light reviews should include one pic of the light in someone's hand Smile

That givse a good feel of its size. It's hard to tell otherwise. 

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kramer5150 wrote:

Does any one sell this light without the charger and cell?

thanks in advance

Ive only seen it in the combo kit.

Foy wrote:

I may be wrong but this looks like a hell of a deal.  $45 for a 26650 XM-L with battery and charger?

It may be no JM07 (about $50) but it looks pretty well built.

 ilikeitFoy

I think so.

kramer5150 wrote:

Does it work with unprotected cells?

There is no +B spring so I am wondering if theres enough flexibility to fit both cell types.

thanks and great review!!

Yes it works with unprotected 26550 king Kong's, unprotected 18650 panisonic NCR18650A's with the single 18650 spacer from my TR-J12, plus all my other 18650's, flat tops are no problem. 

The tail cap has a spring loaded brass plunger, on the driver side there is a brass positive button that sticks up and out so there is plenty of contact with protected, unprotected and flat top cell's. If you look at the top right of the 4th picture down and the last picture you can just see what i mean.

cell's ive tested

trusfire flames 2400 mAh (protected 18650)

NCR18650A's 3100 mAh (unprotected 18650)

king kong's 4000 mAh (unprotected 26650)

trustfire  5000 mAh (protected 26650)

solarforce V2 2400 mAh (protected 18650)

hi-max 2600 mAh (protected 18650)

redilast 2600 mAh (protected 18650)

Rezolution wrote:

All light reviews should include one pic of the light in someone's hand Smile

That gives a good feel of its size. It's hard to tell otherwise. 

Ill take one for you soon.

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kramer5150 wrote:

Does any one sell this light without the charger and cell?

thanks in advance

 

I am also wondering this, anyone found a seller for the flashlight only? Maybe ebay???

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taz wrote:

kramer5150 wrote:

Does any one sell this light without the charger and cell?

thanks in advance

 

I am also wondering this, anyone found a seller for the flashlight only? Maybe ebay???

Ebay was the first place I searched for a light-only sale... I came up empty, but that was a week or so ago.

thanks!!!

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I don't know if this helps or not. But, on Ebay, I saw a light I wanted, and they only had it listed with battery. I sent a message and asked could I get the light minus battery and charger. They replied with a price, I agreed, paid and got the light!!

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Just had a look on ebay, they also list it with a charger plus battery, although at $39.99

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With the possibility of getting a fake

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OK, i update the opening post with a hand shot as requested and a comparison shot with a L2P

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Looks like the perfect light to keep in the glove box if you just bought an Audi A8.

Rats, finally sold my 2010 509hp Mustang...now I can buy more lights!

Sold the red one too! Now guess what I drive, doing my penance for 500 hp commuters...

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OK a little update of the driver and my plans.

OK with the driver's white nylon screw in cover ? removed, the driver is 16.65mm in diameter, there is a brass button that sits on top of the spring, held in by the white nylon screw in cover ?.

There is a recess of 1.43mm on the bottom side of the white nylon screw in cover ? giving 1.43mm of room from the spring side of the driver to the top of the white nylon screw in cover ? where the lip of the brass button sits.

The white nylon screw in cover ? is 3.51mm thick, the hole for the button that sits on the spring is 4.9 mm wide.

Reason's for these measurements is Ive ordered a KD 8x7135 V2 LED Driver 3040mA 17mm I'm planing of doing a driver swap as i really like this light but dislike the disco modes.

I'm thinking there is two ways to do this one is with this train of thought, the KD V2 driver is 4.8mm thick, the board is 1.2 mm thick, so i will have 2 mm approx sticking up from the base of the driver on the spring side, but i believe i can hide 1.40 mm of this under the white nylon screw in cover ?. Then i would use my dremal to make the spring hole bigger on the white nylon screw in cover ?.

Or I could leave out the white nylon screw in cover ? and use it as is and save around 1.5 mm of hight from not using the white nylon screw in cover ? but i worry since the driver is 16.65 mm wide and the KD V2 might need a bit of sanding to fit, the last 105c driver i used needed a bit of sanding to fit.

I will have to buy a new soldering iron tip so i can solder vertical, but i believe the driver swap will not be to hard to swap and will fit, worth the effort for a 2 or 3 mode light with a decent driver with no s.o.s or strobe modes.

Now i just have to wait for 2 months for KD to ship the driver Undecided

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I like the idea of covering the 7135 chips... I dont know why but those always looked kind of out of place on the battery side of the board.  I would try and attach the plastic cover over the new driver, but leave out the brass plug thing.

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I can't believe no one sells just the light by itself... Still on my radar.

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kramer5150 wrote:

I like the idea of covering the 7135 chips... I dont know why but those always looked kind of out of place on the battery side of the board.  I would try and attach the plastic cover over the new driver, but leave out the brass plug thing.

I will most likely leave out the plastic cover as most modders and torch makers don't use any with similar drivers, and i would not be able to use the brass plug thing as i would have to make the hole wider, but i will try both ways and see what works.

kramer5150 wrote:

I can't believe no one sells just the light by itself... Still on my radar.

The price is not bad really in the kit you get a really good protected 4500 mAh 26650 cell (see my link in the first post with the battery test) its worth $13.33 usd.

The charger is good as in it will charge at 1.5 amps the highest amp 26650 charger Ive seen so far so its faster then most others, it is worth $10.94 usd (see my link in the first post with the charger review)

Plus you get a holster and a gift box, thats got to be worth a couple of $.

Most other similar 26650 lights cost from $35 to $50 usd and you get no battery, no charger, no holster and no gift box, even though its free shipping i like the idea the gift box cost the seller more to ship then just a light.

To me if you break the cost down for each item it is not a bad deal at all, the light to me alone is worth $44 usd and i like the look of it.

I have a hobby charger, so i don't need the charger, it could come in handy when my hobby charger is busy charging some thing else, but i will most likely use the charger and the gift box the A8 came in to make up a nice gift set for some one with a good cheap 26650 light like the POPPas W-878 XM-L T6 Flood-To-Throw it will make some one really happy

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kramer5150 wrote:

I can't believe no one sells just the light by itself... Still on my radar.

 

lol I was looking around the net earlier for the same thing. Actually I was also trying to see if any other brand (UF, FF, etc) released the same flashlight under maybe a different name, but nothing...

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benckie, what's the throw of this one? With what would you compare it to in terms of flood/throw?

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taz wrote:

benckie, what's the throw of this one? With what would you compare it to in terms of flood/throw?

Post number 7 on this thread might answer your question, but i will need to do a measured throw test soon.

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OK since I'm a tight ass and did not want to buy a another soldering iron tip so i could solder vertically, i had a brain fart.

Old faithful

Used and abused tip

Tip in back wards

It work's

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Since its winter here and wood burning season, i have been using this light a lot and I'm liking it even more, my wife also has been using it a fair bit for hanging out washing after the little one is in bed on nights with good weather.

Plus me beeing a smoker a oftern take it out the back at nite just to play around with. I'm looking forward to the strobless driver getting here.

Please don't pay to much attention to my current draw tests is seams on other reviews and my reading's compared to others i getting was lower results.

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I just ordered an HD2010, but I am also eyeing up this one, as it is smaller/more compact but still a 26650. I wonder how this one would compare to the C-mini, maybe someone will do a comparison in the future?

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I really like this one because its not much bigger then my EDC my L2P at the moment my L2P is not getting used because of my A8

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