Eastward YJ J09 - Came today !

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Eastward YJ J09 - Came today !

OK to start with - how disappointing !!!!  

Ive just started testing and problems problems problems ...

PS/ Thank you DX , for sending me the 3 mode [ Crap mode ] version when I ordered the 4 mode ...  I really hoped this would not happen , but it was predicted by the HK gods !

 

Where to start ????????????

 

Output , this is pure lottery , it could be as low as 130Lumen or as high as 200Lumen or anywhere in between  - why you ask , cheap ass clicky thats why , for gawds sake why cant they spend a dollar on the clicky switch instead of 10 cents to avoid 90% of flashlight issues ??  and this switch is classic CRAP !  [ Full review on Jayki.com  , and expect a roasting ]

 

Now , what if we remove the clicky switch from the equation ?   250Lumen output !!!    WOW !!!  , the problem ?  The cheap ass clicky switch  ....  It lets the light down big time , and just as big a let down is DX for sending me the CRAP mode version of this light .... [ Hi - not so high - strobe ] 

 

Full roast on Jayki.com in a few days !

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I'm hopeful that dx will screw up and send me the 4 mode one I ordered...

does this at least mean they sent you a xpg-r5  ?

This will be my first experiance dealing with dx and the waiting game is already absolutely insane ...add to it a lottery of what products they'lll ship and it will guarentee that in the future i will avoid them like the plague ..I really didn't want to hear this .".say it ain't so joe " say it ain't so ".

I was looking forward to this light

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Oooh. Not good. Well, rebate time from DealExtreme. It wasn't what you ordered and it has quality problems.

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Thanks for the report. Sorry this didnt work out to be a good light. Its a handsome host but there have been many quality issues with this model. Its to expensive for me to be a budget host mod so i never got one.

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Seems there are no lessons to be learned here .. sometimes the best lights are the first ones and then they turn to rubbish in later models . I'm not fully convinced peoples reviews are worth all that much since many things are purely subjective  and quality control being widely varied ..some good some horrible .. it's a crap shoot . 

I had really hoped that the pictures didn't nessesarily match the model as so many times it doesn't at DX.

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I'm very sad and disappointed to hear this. I had very high hopes for low-low, no blinking flashlights.

 

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Again, the same problem as purchasing the akoray 6 mode and receiving the new 1 mode, as recently ocurred to a guy at DX fourms. sad sad sad

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This is par for the course at DX. But anyway we'll have a better idea of the error/failure rate with this light when I receive mine. Looks like it'll be at least another week still for me, though.

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Got my J09 today, and its the 3-mode version (high-still high-#&%§$% strobe). Ordered 30 days ago, so shipping was quite fast (to Germany). Its a XP-G emitter. Its bright (with an Eneloop). Buts its not the light I ordered! My clicky seems ok, the pill is glued in (why must Eastward seal all lights? I ruined my tweezers...) On the box is a label with the correkt sku.47626, don't know who made the mistake, DX or Eastward. The 3-mode version is 19.60$ atm, wasn't it like 18.80$ some weeks ago?
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I think they glue it to shop bad seller from down grading the led

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heinzeins wrote:
Got my J09 today, and its the 3-mode version (high-still high-#&%§$% strobe). Ordered 30 days ago, so shipping was quite fast (to Germany). Its a XP-G emitter. Its bright (with an Eneloop). Buts its not the light I ordered! My clicky seems ok, the pill is glued in (why must Eastward seal all lights? I ruined my tweezers...) On the box is a label with the correkt sku.47626, don't know who made the mistake, DX or Eastward. The 3-mode version is 19.60$ atm, wasn't it like 18.80$ some weeks ago?

 

XP-G? Sure?

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http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1470/xpgquestionmark.jpg I thought the 4 dies are a sign for XP-G.
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OMG! is XP-G! at least!. Pity the modes

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It's a XPG for sure.

 

Now there is a new question:

XPG at last

or

XPG at the moment???

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newbie74 wrote:

Now there is a new question:

XPG at last

or

XPG at the moment???

 

I dont understand that, sorry, English is not my natal language, maybe I wrote an error with "xpg at least"

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fran82 wrote:

newbie74 wrote:

Now there is a new question:

XPG at last

or

XPG at the moment???

 

I dont understand that, sorry, English is not my natal language, maybe I wrote an error with "xpg at least"

 

No no, your quote was fine and perfectly understandable, newbie74 is just saying it in a different way, ie. "For the price, this light finally has a worthwhile emitter"

 

Pity DX screwed up and sent out the wrong light, however the 3-mode IS listed as an XP-G on the website.

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Perhaps I was too subtle.

 

Fran82, what I meant was: We finally have an Eastward XPG. But will it continue shipping with an XPG emitter? Or will it revert to XPE as (I believe) some earlier ones? It is a new and different question...

 

If they have a 4 mode, no strobe,  XPG it's a sure buy in my opinion. But I'm not buying it because I don't know what they will ship...

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Ah! Ok, sorry

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newbie74 wrote:

Perhaps I was too subtle.

 

Fran82, what I meant was: We finally have an Eastward XPG. But will it continue shipping with an XPG emitter? Or will it revert to XPE as (I believe) some earlier ones? It is a new and different question...

 

If they have a 4 mode, no strobe,  XPG it's a sure buy in my opinion. But I'm not buying it because I don't know what they will ship...

 

I bought one of the original 3-mode ones. It has an XP-E but is the brightest on an AA NiMH of anything I own. I don't have the junk switch problems but then I bought it, like many of my lights, around the time it was announced by DX. I do wonder about dropping in an R5 I happen to have lying around, but the R5's I have are not mounted on anything, they are just in the packaging they come in off a reel, so I'd have to get the XP-E out and somehow get the R5 mounted on the star - once I'd got past the glue. I've never done reflow soldering. Arenat's post here does give me some ideas though.

 

The numbers from my light tests are always to be found here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApkFM37n_QnRdDU5MDNzOURjYllmZHI...

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My Eastward YJ J09 arrived and it has 3 modes high-"not so high, but almost the same"-strobe and an xp-e emitter (I can see the dots). Brightness is lower than my P32, but I don't have old's switch problems. I like the tint and the beam quality, but almost 20 $ for a pseudo single mode is definitely too much in my books. In times like these, I feel the urge to sell all my budget lights and get one expensive light that does what I  expect.

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Okay, well I'm kind of glad I avoided this whole stupidity then.  Probably still look in to the Mr Lite - just got a KC-05 and I'm fairly impressed thus far.

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The problem is , that i have variable output every time I switch on the light , now this is not really noticeable  to the naked eye , only to my light meter [ lightbox ] 

And once the switch is shorted out , making the light into a twisty , my output goes to a very nice 250L  ...

So less switch , I get on average almost 100 more lumens output ...

 

 I also think this has something to do with the driver , as it seems very sensitive to resistance [ like my multimeter ] ...  

I have a nice laundry list of issues ...  and hopefully  I will have the review posted today ... 

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250 lumens on an Eneloop is incredible. What a pity that DealExtreme and Eastward have been so unscrupulous with this whole deal. This is yet another nail in DealExtreme's coffin, in my opinion.

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OK, mine just arrived.

Works great, really bright, XP-G emitter, and... High, High, and Strobe modes. Back to pulling the ropes of the DX ticket system....

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5 pack , might have to order one [ pack ] , there might be one good clicky in the bunch , I hope ...

+ Ive seen far better ones on ebay , just need to order the right size ..  Thanks fran82

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I have them used for replace the one on the TF F23. Works perfect. No difference from the stock one, only a little longer (1mm)

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Is it me or they cropped the pictures. Big Smile

Does anyone have the original its worth a laugh.

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That's ashame no one has got the 4 mode light. I am still waiting for mine, it should be here soon. Clicky issues can sometimes be cured with a shot of good quality plastic safe electronic contact cleaner. My F23 needed a shot of cleaner and now it's perfect! I hope current shipments will at the very least have the xp-g emitter. 

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My eastward arrived  the other day and it has exactly what was described ..XPE-r3  4 mode

That's right >>>> 4 mode ...reminds me of the blf except it actually works( One of My Blf's is defective )..Twice as bright as the BLF and a beautiful smooth floody beam .It is exactly what I had hoped for the blf . the modes are stupid just like the blf .. low low nice mid at about 40% and a sweet high .pretty bright 160? ...Color is perfectly fine very close to the blf .. it's a very good tint .I would have expected more throw from a xpe .It acts more like an xpg .big hot spot and not a single ring ... it is exactly what you'd want from a small every day carry..I really really like it.

 I was worried after hearing reports of people getting 3 mode strobes ...I'm really sick of nuking the neighbors with strobes just to switch modes at night . It's like having to set off a fire alarm just to change channels on your walkman .  Isn't there anyone smart enough to design a driver that doesn't have strobe  on it and has an interesting user interface ??

whee... 4 mode

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