[2016-06-11] Crackdown on rudeness

[sb56637]

Thanks a lot ToyKeeper for your pragmatism! :+1:

And it lets Sb see more easily where problems most likely are, by letting the community vote on what is a problem.

This is a big one for me. I don’t give other users moderator permissions here because it’s extremely hard for a moderator to be objective and fair 100% of the time. And as a matter of fact I don’t even entirely trust myself as a good moderator. Certain people and certain issues personally rub me the wrong way, and there are others that I would tend to view with much more leniency. But it’s not all about me, and the Rudeness Level will be a huge help as a quantifiable meter that I can take into account when I inevitably have to make hard moderation decisions.

[sb56637]

@atbglenn

@pilotdog68

kitchen sales are the best game on BLF! I’ve gotten 15+

Hey sb, how about a counter on how many kitchen sales ads we’ve hit “Spam” on before they disappeared?

I like it, I like it!

Ughhhh tell me about it! :person_facepalming: I don’t know how we got on their list as a target, but they’re enough to make a grown man cry.

[atbglenn]

@sb56637

@atbglenn

@pilotdog68

kitchen sales are the best game on BLF! I’ve gotten 15+

Hey sb, how about a counter on how many kitchen sales ads we’ve hit “Spam” on before they disappeared?

I like it, I like it!

Ughhhh tell me about it! :person_facepalming: I don’t know how we got on their list as a target, but they’re enough to make a grown man cry.

I always wondered about that. At least they’re zapped quickly enough

[MRsDNF]

@can

@emarkd

@MRsDNF

So its a lazy person button.

Maybe, sorta, but it also would really cut down on clutter and “thread bloat”. Even when its positive stuff, who wants to log in just to read dozens of new “Thanks!” posts, or worse get email alerts for new thread activity only to find something useless to themselves? I don’t. Ain’t nobody got time fo dat. So I think most of us just don’t say thanks, because it doesn’t add to the conversation. And that’s kind of a shame. So for that reason, I personally also really see the appeal of a “Thanks!” button.

“Thread Bloat” Awsome.
So is it rude to always bump threads to the top and say little to nothing? For the last 6 months or so if I click on a recent posts thread it will most likely have a newish member posting pretty much “nothing” although occasionally posting something. Obviously, I am not talking about dbcustom . Now that is a man on a mission he is doing crazy stuff every day and posts some serious content.
So, is it ok to press the rude button when a member is like the loud person in the room? The person that likes to hear their own voice?

The threads you mention about new members saying nothing in my book is from the spammers. This wont be stopped.
As far as thread bloat goes stop the continued quoting of quoted posts to the point they cannot be read. a bit like how this post is going.
I agree with the ones that mentioned that it is better to give a personal thanks in writing rather than hit a button.

[sb56637]

@EyeballFryer

sb56637: Can you put an option to hide the rude meter until it increases to a certain number? I don’t like seeing the “My Rudeness Level” every time I scroll down. I don’t intend to be rude, controversial, or attack anyone at a personal level, so I don’t need the constant presence of a rude meter to remind me (or nag me) to not be rude.

Unfortunately I don’t know how to achieve that on a technical level, my apologies. But I agree it was kind of a big ugly blob in the middle of the panel, so I added a “rudeness” label inside the meter and removed the big title.

[will34]

Thanks! Much better now…

[hank]

stop the continued quoting of quoted posts

If only (grin). Even using only partial quotes “(with due respect for careful use of the ellipsis)”:https://sonatano1.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/how-to-misuse-your-ellipses-and-infuriate-your-readers/ would be wonderful.
But some aspirations are beyond the ability of mere humans to attain at least consistently ……

It’s like the religious war over top or bottom posting, there’s no accounting for personal preference.

[sb56637]

@hank

It’s like the religious war over top or bottom posting, there’s no accounting for personal preference.

Ah, I didn’t realize that it’s become a religious war. That explains why just the other day I ran across a complaint about that on a technical mailing list, and I wondered what the big deal was.

[ToyKeeper]

@hank

stop the continued quoting of quoted posts

If only (grin).

For those who don’t mind using a browser extension, you can paste this in to limit the maximum nesting level of quotes. Use the “import” feature in the “Stylish” extension.

@-moz-document domain("budgetlightforum.com") {
/* hide quotes deeper than 3 levels */
blockquote.quote-msg blockquote.quote-msg blockquote.quote-msg blockquote.quote-msg {
    display: none !important;
}
}

… or install the same thing from the userstyles site: BLF limit quote depth (3) | Userstyles.org

[EyeballFryer]

@sb56637

Unfortunately I don’t know how to achieve that on a technical level, my apologies. But I agree it was kind of a big ugly blob in the middle of the panel, so I added a “rudeness” label inside the meter and removed the big title.

I think that’s an acceptable compromise. Can you change the text so that “rudeness” only appears once, such as “0/10 rudeness”?

[sb56637]

@EyeballFryer

@sb56637

Unfortunately I don’t know how to achieve that on a technical level, my apologies. But I agree it was kind of a big ugly blob in the middle of the panel, so I added a “rudeness” label inside the meter and removed the big title.

I think that’s an acceptable compromise. Can you change the text so that “rudeness” only appears once, such as “0/10 rudeness”?

I’ll have to mess around with the underlying code a bit (which I didn’t write), but that’s a possibility. Thanks!

[Jesjes]

Now i know what rude means!

Was hoping and waiting for something like that in the time of the cometa double trouble…
On the other hand,i have 0 out of 10 - so what does it mean?

Good idea SB! Go on like this …

[EyeballFryer]

@Jesjes

On the other hand,i have 0 out of 10 - so what does it mean?

It means you’re quite terrible at being rude!

[CRX]

I demand a recount! :laughing:

[Bort (BortyMcBortface)]

@CRX

I demand a recount! :laughing:

sure

More Asbestos! More Asbestos! (The Simpsons)

[teacher]

I am really liking the new “rude button” feature. It levels the field for all members.
Rude is rude whether one is a seasoned BLF member, a one day old new person, or anywhere in between.

Since this feature was implemented I have noticed there has been an almost immediate change in the posting behavior of some in all three of those categories.
[ I would fall into the “in between” member myself…… in between seasoned and new. ]

I like the fact that each individual can see their “rudeness quotient”. Even though it has shrunk to super small, I hope it does remain visible to the individual.

I think a “thank you” or “+1” button at the bottom of a post would give others the option to acknowledge a post they wanted to without necessarily having to quote it and reply. Thus keeping threads cleaner.

I also think this should be unique to each post and not combined for a cumulative total or go toward karma points.
That only has the potential to turn things into a circus and / or a popularity contest.

These are my thoughts on the matter. YMMV
.

Also, what pilotdog68 said below sums it up perfectly…….

@pilotdog68

I think many of you are taking this whole thing too seriously.

1. If you have a high rude score, nobody else will know but you (and SB)
2. If you have a high rude score, look at those posts and see if you broke some rules or were actually rude.
3. If you did break rules/were rude, clean up your act!
4. If you feel you were totally in line and the Rude! marks were unwarranted, don’t sweat it! If you really were rude, sb will message you. If you really weren’t rude and the people who marked you as such are abusing the feature, sb will contact them.

[264]

I use my tablet a lot when on BLF. Real easy to accidentally hit that button then because of touch screen feature and small size. Maybe make the rudeness button a two stage design. After you hit the button asking are you sure you wish to use this feature?

[mapache]

@264

I use my tablet a lot when on BLF. Real easy to accidentally hit that button then because of touch screen feature and small size. Maybe make the rudeness button a two stage design. After you hit the button asking are you sure you wish to use this feature?

It already has that feature.

[264]

@mapache

@264

I use my tablet a lot when on BLF. Real easy to accidentally hit that button then because of touch screen feature and small size. Maybe make the rudeness button a two stage design. After you hit the button asking are you sure you wish to use this feature?

It already has that feature.

Glad to hear that. :+1:

[bugsy]

I continue to think this is a silly and unnecessary addition for a forum. I notice how silly it is every time I see the counter that shows 0 rudeness/10 rudeness. lulz!