I see the Q8 on Ebay and Banggood, starting at 45 euro or something. that’s a good price, since the Skyray King is almost the same price, and not as good.
thanks to everyone for chiming in :+1: :beer:

ah, those are very cheap. I’m not sure how much I actually plan on using this light, and how much I just want it as a gadget. we all have that feeling, right?