[ALIVE: M4D deal] Nealsgadgets present: NSX3 by Nightwatch

L4M4 · 2019-11-01T18:18:34.000Z

Roughly 45 seconds
With a full Samsung 21700-30T

The light is called “Seeker Super” - and that is correct. for searching stuff on the ground in your surroundings, this is perfect because the beam is so wide and it has more spill than other lights have hotspot

I would love a light like that as an Emisar, with Side-Switch and Anduril UI

Th558 · 2019-11-01T23:45:13.000Z

L4M4:

Roughly 45 seconds
With a full Samsung 21700-30T

The light is called “Seeker Super” - and that is correct. for searching stuff on the ground in your surroundings, this is perfect because the beam is so wide and it has more spill than other lights have hotspot

I would love a light like that as an Emisar, with Side-Switch and Anduril UI

Really? 45 seconds seems like a bit too much. Can you test the amps/lumens or compare the ceiling bounce to another light?

Th558 · 2019-11-01T23:42:38.000Z

California_Prepper:

What I like about the 53A is starting in Turbo. If I could have my way every light would start in turbo. I hate clicking to ramp up because half the time I pass it and have to start all over. I mean this thing is a toy. Starting in turbo so I can show it off is perfect.

Same. Turbo as the first mode makes sense for something your buying to use mainly in turbo. Only thing is if it turns on in your pocket…might need to invent a pocket fire extinguisher.

California_Prepper · 2019-11-01T23:54:28.000Z

Th558:

California_Prepper:

What I like about the 53A is starting in Turbo. If I could have my way every light would start in turbo. I hate clicking to ramp up because half the time I pass it and have to start all over. I mean this thing is a toy. Starting in turbo so I can show it off is perfect.

Same. Turbo as the first mode makes sense for something your buying to use mainly in turbo. Only thing is if it turns on in your pocket…might need to invent a pocket fire extinguisher.

I make it a habit to lockout all my flashlights by turning the tailcap just to be on the safe side.

California_Prepper · 2019-11-02T03:25:20.000Z

I hope mine arrives soon. The status states preparing for shipment but it’s said that for 2 weeks now.

California_Prepper · 2019-11-02T03:25:41.000Z

Would have been nice to use on Halloween lol

strayz · 2019-11-02T20:40:46.000Z

PM me when available.

M4D_M4X · 2019-11-02T21:23:08.000Z

strayz:

PM me when available.

already available

use the Form ;)

Majoroverkill · 2019-11-03T03:41:43.000Z

I’ll take one please! Email sent!

Majoroverkill · 2019-11-03T03:54:01.000Z

Thank you Martin and Neal! Ordered the NS53A, AWESOME!

Majoroverkill · 2019-11-03T08:24:34.000Z

Will my Samsung 40T’s work with this light?

Majoroverkill · 2019-11-03T08:44:33.000Z

Found these 21700 cells. Anyone know anything about these. They claim to outperform the 40T.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Molicel-21700-P42A-4200mAh-45A-HIGH-DRAIN-Flat-Top-Rechargeable-Battery-Case/252366316012?\_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D3130ea6946354c60adccf33a2e522bef%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dsb%26sd%3D202760134644%26itm%3D252366316012%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&\_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Molicel/NPE INR-21700 Specs:
Brand: Molicel
Model: INR-21700 P42A
Size: 21700
Positive: Flat
Type: Rechargeable Lithium Ion Battery
Protected: No
Nominal Voltage: 3.6V
Rated Capacity: 4200mAh
Minimum Capacity: 4000mAh
Maximum Discharge Rate: 45A
Approximate Dimensions: 21mm x 70mm
Approximate Weight: 70g

L4M4 · 2019-11-03T09:33:14.000Z

If you choose the NS53A you shouldn’t try to save 2$ on the batteries.
I bought the 30T just because of this light. I don’t know about the prices in the US, but I got them for ~$8 per piece (bought 5 for 31.49€) including shipping from germany.

Send the article-number to HKJ, maybe he will test those batteries.

Majoroverkill · 2019-11-03T23:40:13.000Z

I have 30T and 40T Samsung cells. It’s not about saving money its about finding the highest power cell available. I just paid 28 dollars for 2 Efest 26650 5000mah 50A cells, my second set and those out do the 40T in my MF01 mini by a lot.

California_Prepper · 2019-11-04T00:30:48.000Z

Majoroverkill:

I have 30T and 40T Samsung cells. It’s not about saving money its about finding the highest power cell available. I just paid 28 dollars for 2 Efest 26650 5000mah 50A cells, my second set and those out do the 40T in my MF01 mini by a lot.

Do you have a link to the Efest cells?

blueb8llz · 2019-11-04T00:51:26.000Z

Majoroverkill:

I have 30T and 40T Samsung cells. It’s not about saving money its about finding the highest power cell available. I just paid 28 dollars for 2 Efest 26650 5000mah 50A cells, my second set and those out do the 40T in my MF01 mini by a lot.

How do the efest compare to the 30t?

SKV89 · 2019-11-04T01:41:07.000Z

Majoroverkill:

I have 30T and 40T Samsung cells. It’s not about saving money its about finding the highest power cell available. I just paid 28 dollars for 2 Efest 26650 5000mah 50A cells, my second set and those out do the 40T in my MF01 mini by a lot.

I have a hard time believing the Efest 26650 5000mah can beat the 40T in output. A 5000mah cell with performance like that would have been much more well known. Though I do wish it is true as it will make 26650 lights much more interesting.

Majoroverkill · 2019-11-04T07:45:43.000Z

When my MF01 Mini came in I had the Efest batteries waiting for this light. I ordered the 40T’s Thinking they would be amazing over the Efest. They arrived the next day and I was excited to try them out. With a full charge from my Miboxer C4 12 I installed the 40T and went straight to turbo. Now I am still learning on how to test light intensities with my meter so I was testing for lux and the flashlight kicked down really fast like 21 seconds with both cells. So I installed a fully charged Efest, 5000mah was a mistake, sorry. They are the dark purple 4200mah 35A continuous draw with a 50A pulse rate. They kept the MF01 on turbo way longer and when measuring the lux output was considerably higher. My 30T’s should be here by Thursday but I am not expecting much since the 40T’s are rated higher. I would love to get some real numbers but I have no way or knowhow to calibrate my 3’’ light tube. All I know is my real world tests by tacking them out into the field and daily use, I was interested to know if anyone knew the Molice brand. If there cell numbers are true or close they would be great for flashlights. I am still fairly knew to this amazing hobby/obsession so please be gentle. Batter up

SKV89 · 2019-11-04T08:17:26.000Z

The Efest 26650 purple 4200mah pushes a bit harder than the Shockli when fully charged but quickly drops below the Shockli for the rest of the discharge curve. The Efest is much weaker than the 40T at 20A. I think the reason why you observe the light to be brighter with the Efest 26650 is because the light doesn’t step down as fast since the Efest doesn’t heat up the light as quickly as with the 40T.
http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Common26650comparator.php

Regarding Molicel, Mooch rated their P42A as the best all-around 21700 and the P26A as the best all-around 18650. Molicel is an excellent brand but they don’t make 26650, and I recommend not to use any 21700 cells until it is confirmed the longer length will not permanently crush the springs (reduced spring length). If you don’t mind that risk and want to use 21700, the P42A won’t output as hard as the 40T for the first 15% or so of the discharge curve but will output higher for the latter part of the discharge curve. I have the P42A and 40T. When fresh off the charger, I measure higher lumen output with the 40T so if you are interested in max output to impress people, I would go for the 40T, but for practical use, the P42A is slightly better. The same can be said with the Molicel P26A.

The two well known battery reviewers are Mooch and HKJ.
Here is a list of batteries tested by Mooch.

Here is a battery comparator by HKJ so you can compare the discharge curves of all cells tested by HKJ. You can see the Efest 4200mah is no match for the 40T or Golisi 4300mah.

Th558 · 2019-11-04T08:29:45.000Z

Do people realise that this is the NSX3 thread? It only takes 21700 cells