I’ve found initially from cold the C8+ wins , spot size is around the same but intensity is higher, However at the 20 second line the C8+ begins to loose efficiency as it heats up and the FT03 pulls back in front by 30 seconds the FT03 is clearly putting more out , I am also really dragging the guts out of my C8+ with 6.2amps at the tailcap and a really upset culnm1