CK, DOC is depth of cut, which means I am taking a total of .500 off the overall diameter, using grade 5 ceramics lets you do some crazy cuts. And yes one day I would like to machine a light using a reflector/TIR setup, but the whole getting the reflector lined up with the emitter and everything seems like something I will have to practice a few times. I have copper set aside for pills and some other exotic materials Ive hoarded. If I can ever forge a succesfull bar of mokume……….