Hell2Pay
(Hell2Pay)
5502
Here is a pic of my new 1A (left) and my original 5A (right) lights.
The nubs on the body ring are smaller and the bottom of the clip is a shorter bend.
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This is why it still won’t work well as a clip, why can’t they just bloody get rid of these?!
Gunga
(Gunga)
5504
Okay. Not great, but better.
Joat
(Joat)
5505
The moon mode on my lights is very bright compared to the moon.
The Zebralights I’ve tested measured about 0.1 lumens in my light box. The lower ZL modes are definitely in the “firefly” range, measuring at just 0.01 or 0.02 lm. I don’t really have a use for something that dim.
In any case, I find 0.10 lm to be nice in the middle of the night and I leave a SC52 in that mode next to the bed all night. With a ceiling bounce, it’s about right (a tenth of a lumen illuminates the entire room to a comfortable level).
On the BLF A6, moon is higher (~0.5 lm) because it’s at the extreme end of what the driver can do, the control resolution is pretty chunky, and the parts aren’t incredibly consistent. Aiming a bit high ensures that nearly all units will have a usable mode even if they’re a bit out of spec on the low side. The expected variance is like +/- 0.3 lm for each unit, so aiming at an average of 0.1 lm would basically have an error range of –0.2 lm to 0.4 lm. The hardware simply doesn’t offer enough low-end precision to do a ZL-level moon.
Using PWM on a FET+7135 driver, the precision of brightness control at the low end looks something like this. It gets a pronounced stair-step pattern at the bottom, but above that things are pretty smooth.

Sorry, guys! I tried, but even my brightest flashlight couldn’t bring the moon back!
… that takes just a little more light than my flashlights have.
cajampa
(cajampa)
5508
Speaking of the moon, we had a beautiful bloodmoon here in Sweden tonight, it started at 02.00 with deep red almost fluffy looking mask covering the moon, and later it was eclipsed between 04.00-06.00.
It was weird i tried to take some pictures of it with crappy mobil cameras, but most pictures looked like an pixelated 8-bit or 16-bit bloodmoon from a nintendo or something, i guess mobile cameras aren’t really equipped to capture celestial events.
I understand TK, thanks for the explanation though.
Don’t mind me, I just thought the above needed repeating. 
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… though even a snapshot camera (like an ELPH/IXUS) can be pretty good at “celestial” events like sunrise and sunset. (the first was from my front porch, the second was a quick shot through the car window while driving on a highway; both are unedited)
hank
(hank)
5512
I guess it would be counterproductive to have the flashlight’s “moon mode” actually synchronize with the brightness of the actual moonlight available.
You’d need to include an astronomical calendar and a GPS in the driver.
Then again, having the flashlight get brighter as the moonlight is less … hmmmm.
Good thing I’m not a programmer.
tas69
(tas69)
5513
Finally got my 2 flashlights. Thanks again for this group buy. Now I’ll mosey over to the troubleshooting thread to see if any of the production issues are in these flashlights.
(edit) all modes seem to be working correctly on both flashlights.
jojocat
(jojocat)
5514
Got my 3D and it’s just awesome. Thanks so much bugsy for putting this hardware together with the super cool driver/interface from toykeeper. I just recently finally got into 18650 driven light with an S2, and it’s crazy how much this blows it out of the water. :party:
IClight
(IClight)
5515
Just picked up my A6 and I’m beaming!
(har har)
Really, very nice job!
realista
(realista)
5516
i received it ….
sincerely speaking…… i’m not convinced about the power of this flashlight.i compared it with my thrunite tn12 2014 and brightness is EQUAL …. but A6 white temp is something cooler than the “cool” tn 12 2014. The tint is too much cool…
and however i expected to see about 1350 / 1400 lumens as advertised ( and 1600 with mod spring) but i can tell you there is no real difference with 1000 real lumens from the thrunite.
sorry but as “not advanced ” user i only see a flashlightsold at good price 25 usd and about 1000 lumens….maybe i should had ordered the IMALENT DM21 …. at similar price ( after coupon) but at least microusb port and infinite output….
What about the fact that it’s been MEASURED at 1300-1600 lumens depending on batteries and mods?
What a dumb post…
viperbart
(viperbart)
5518
Please don’t be rude to others for their opinion.
I didn’t see this here until after responding to the other thread you posted this in… but for anyone who didn’t see both threads, it looks like it’s probably because the TN12 is a more throwy light while the A6 is a more floody light. Roughly 12 kcd of lux vs 8 kcd, even though it’s 1000 lm vs 1400 lm.
So, the TN12 would have a brighter hotspot.
If you want to take this concept a lot farther, try a Jacob A60. It’s cheap and gets quite a bit of throw… last I checked it was something like 250 lumens and 60 kcd of lux, so the beam is almost laser-like.
+1
cannot compare apples with oranges.
realista
(realista)
5521
i know that tn 12 2014 is more thwrowy… i’m not a stupid that is comparing the max output only watching the HOTspot .
i also made ceiling bounce test and also at naked eyes power seems equal…maybe even lower output on A6.
both flashlight used panasonic 18650*PF*
if i would ask a normal person to pick up the more powerful one, they’d choose tn12 2014 ….besides the cold white is simply more natural respecting the colder tone of the A6.
i’m not trying to convince anyone that A6 is piece of shit…. but for sure i expected more power from an high drived xp-l flashlight, described as about 1400 lumens stock no mod.