Convoy L6... XHP70 Beast!

beam0 · 2016-07-28T06:31:35.000Z

BrianK:

But if one takes a small cord and ties a dropper in it, then puts the cord around the head on the light, in one of the grooves, and ties it off one gets a loop to hook onto and the o-ring stays in place. I used 50# leader material to do this. Now to buy the sling.

dropper loop knot >>>>>>> click here <<<<<<<<<<

Thanks for posting the tutorial video link for the “Dropper Loop” Pretty cool!

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beam0:

Kind of pricy at $21.95 but I thought one of these would be real nice for this, at 52” it would be about the perfect length:
(Shown in single point configuration, but I’d get a second clasp to use it 2-point)

Their current listing shows a OD/black color one but in the description is says: “Contact us for other colors” I like the Coyote color.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/550-Mil-type-OD-Paracord-Over-Shoulder-Survival-Lanyard-FREE-SHIPPING-/221300391865?hash=item338687ffb9

I contacted the seller and he said no problem to make them in the Coyote color “just allow a extra day or so handling time to complete the special build” :+1: I imagine he could also adjust the length if desired.

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J-Dub74:

Incorporating an attachment point near the side switch could be dual purpose. Helping users find the side switch in the dark if designed properly would be a bonus for all and would give the people who want to carry it this way (sling style) a better option. I don’t like positioning the tac-ring up there but I understand it’s just improvisation which is what BLF is all about. :+1: I have a few ideas to toss around now on those lines. Thanks all.

Looking forward to hearing those ideas!

BobbyMK · 2016-07-28T08:08:28.000Z

The driver from the L6 is up for sale on aliexpress

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/FX-30-driver-for-CREE-XHP70-led/330416_32705084650.html

The_Miller · 2016-07-28T08:19:19.000Z

When carried like a 26650 purse the L6 is nicely balance idk how it pans out with 18650 cells but the weight of 26650 cells make it balance just right

Slayer1 · 2016-07-28T12:39:38.000Z

Argh…got to wait for my L6 N2-3A. No stock in BG.

Andyman · 2016-07-28T13:22:58.000Z

BobbyMK:

The driver from the L6 is up for sale on aliexpress

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Nice! Is that exactly the same one as in the L6? I remember someone saying there was a “stock” FX30 driver, but that it had been juiced up before being dropped into the L6. So ordering a regular FX30 driver wouldn’t get you exactly what’s in the L6.

If this is an exact copy of what’s in the L6, I’d grab one… I’m curious to try the resistor mod that others here have described, but I’m not confident enough in my micro-soldering to risk toasting my light. If I had a spare driver, though…

giorgoskok · 2016-07-28T13:26:11.000Z

This must be the stock one :
http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S025253

And the L6 driver from the previous post (sold my Simon) :
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/FX-30-driver-for-CREE-XHP70-led/330416_32705084650.html

The_Miller · 2016-07-28T13:30:11.000Z

So Simon offers a driver that is not only cheaper, it also pushes 5+A instead of the 4.5A max of the Kaidoman one.
Nice!

atbglenn · 2016-07-28T13:35:08.000Z

I’m going to pick up a spare driver from Simon. I like that it includes the mode switch.

DB_Custom · 2016-07-28T13:41:28.000Z

I like that attached momentary as well, but it doesn’t say exactly what this driver does… how many modes, what order, what spacing? Is this our L6 driver, or isn’t it? Gonna wait for more information…

atbglenn · 2016-07-28T13:43:58.000Z

DB Custom:

I like that attached momentary as well, but it doesn’t say exactly what this driver does… how many modes, what order, what spacing? Is this our L6 driver, or isn’t it? Gonna wait for more information…

Good idea to wait till we get the official word from Simon

Beachlogger · 2016-07-28T13:55:13.000Z

I think I’ll grab a couple of spare drivers from Simon also
Will this driver also run a mt-g2 also?

DB_Custom · 2016-07-28T14:45:34.000Z

6V is 6V, whether that’s 2 or 3 pairs (quad or double triple) of 2S XP-G2’s/XP-L’s/XM-L2’s or an XHP-50/70 or MT-G2.

That’s confusing huh?

A quad set up with 2 series 2 parallel would use 6V.

Setting up 6 of the 3V emitters in 2 series 3 parallel would also require 6V.

And of course, the big MT-G2 comes in a 6V variant as do the XHP-50 and XHP-70.

This driver should run any of these set-ups, up to and maybe a little over the 5A it’s rated at (power boost with a resistor mod, but I don’t know how much it can take)

Beachlogger · 2016-07-28T15:07:17.000Z

Thanks, yes confusing :student:

sidecross · 2016-07-28T17:31:43.000Z

DB Custom:

6V is 6V, whether that’s 2 or 3 pairs (quad or double triple) of 2S XP-G2’s/XP-L’s/XM-L2’s or an XHP-50/70 or MT-G2.

That’s confusing huh?

A quad set up with 2 series 2 parallel would use 6V.

Setting up 6 of the 3V emitters in 2 series 3 parallel would also require 6V.

And of course, the big MT-G2 comes in a 6V variant as do the XHP-50 and XHP-70.

This driver should run any of these set-ups, up to and maybe a little over the 5A it’s rated at (power boost with a resistor mod, but I don’t know how much it can take)

My Fenix FD40 uses one 26650 battery with the CREE MT-G2 what driver does Fenix use?

beam0 · 2016-07-28T18:40:19.000Z

Slayer1:

Argh…got to wait for my L6 N2-3A. No stock in BG.

Its showing: “Usually dispatched in 6-9 business days” Does this mean its not in stock?

It looks like the 1C is out of stock though, because it shows: “Expected restock on 31st July 2016”

beam0 · 2016-07-28T18:45:08.000Z

The Miller:

When carried like a 26650 purse the L6 is nicely balance idk how it pans out with 18650 cells but the weight of 26650 cells make it balance just right

Thanks, that’s useful to know.

Lund1660 · 2016-07-28T18:45:24.000Z

You have to desolder the switch to put in the driver correct? I couldn’t get the switch out without desoldering the wires from the driver.

djburkes · 2016-07-28T18:51:14.000Z

That is correct, the switch sits on a shelf in the side of the light so you can’t pull it or the driver out without desoldering the wires.

beam0 · 2016-07-28T19:35:03.000Z

I have a question about the design of this light that’s been bugging me.

Exactly why was it designed for 2 batteries when there are now drivers available to operate the xhp emitter with only one battery? Since the batteries are in Series what is the advantage? Voltage is doubled, but capacity is not (same mAh as only one battery) Correct?

Unless there is a major disadvantage to those drivers that uses one cell, wouldn’t a better design have been 2 x 18650 in parallel for double the capacity and “physically” parallel in the tube (side-by-side) making the light much shorter and more compact with the benefit of longer lasting battery power .

(2 good high or medium drain 18650’s doubled in parallel could be as high as 6000 to 7000mAh?)

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Also is there a single cell “host only” version of this available or being considered?

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I’m not knocking the light, I like it, just wondered about an alternate design that could have advantages.
Sorry if this has been already discussed here I haven’t followed the entire thread and it’s too massive to search it at this point.

staticx57 · 2016-07-28T20:01:40.000Z

beam0:

I have a question about the design of this light that’s been bugging me.

Exactly why was it designed for 2 batteries when there are now drivers available to operate the xhp emitter with only one battery? Since the batteries are in Series what is the advantage? Voltage is doubled, but capacity is not (same mAh as only one battery) Correct?

Unless there is a major disadvantage to those drivers that uses one cell, wouldn’t a better design have been 2 x 18650 in parallel for double the capacity and “physically” parallel in the tube (side-by-side) making the light much shorter and more compact with the benefit of longer lasting battery power .

(2 good high or medium drain 18650’s doubled in parallel could be as high as 6000 to 7000mAh?)

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Also is there a single cell “host only” version of this available or being considered?

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I’m not knocking the light, I like it, just wondered about an alternate design that could have advantages.
Sorry if this has been already discussed here I haven’t followed the entire thread and it’s too massive to search it at this point.

Theoretically capacity is doubled since you are drawing less current so the net wattage is the same. I.e. 3.7 volt 10 amps is 37 watts and 7.4 volts at 5 amps is still 37 watts. So if a single 5000 mah 26650 has 18.5 watt hour capacity a single 26650 will power it for a hair over half an hour adding another will increase runtime.