【convoy】

Simon_Mao · 2019-03-09T05:05:21.000Z

Lux-Perpetua:

Hi Simon,

Many thanks for your frequent participation here and for the great stuff you have for sale. :+1:

Some questions:

1. Do you offer the S11 host with SMO and OP reflector or OP only? I would like to order 2 hosts with SMO if possible.

18.52€ |Schwarz/silber/grau convoy S11 host|Taschenlampen| - AliExpress

2. Do you see any chance to source high quality bin SST-40 in 5000K? I saw you have 6.500K for sale but neutralwhite would be fantastic.

5.6€ |Luminus sst40 6500k mit DTP kupfer bord|Taschenlampen| - AliExpress

3. Many many thanks for those L6 switches! I would like to get some more L6 tailcap switches and rubber caps again with my next order. Any chance to get these again?

4. Any news so far about the XHP35 boost driver for L2? Would this driver also work in the S11 host (22mm diameter)?

Cheers,

Thomas

1.SMO for S11 is in production now.
2.i’m sorry ,i didnt get 5000K,i will try in future
3.yes,i can send you more if you need
4.i change my plan ,i’m ready to install XHP35 in L6 ,i will get a driver sample (output 2A) in three days

Simon_Mao · 2019-03-09T05:07:39.000Z

sochi111:

Ryzbor:

ad a usable sub 0.5 lumen moon, the current one is too bright for preserving night vision (camping etc.)

Would a red or green light be better for preserving night vision?
Does the switch have an indicator light? Sometimes they call it location or battery power indicator.

there is no indicator ,
I used a translucent button to reserve this function, because later I will launch another H1 version with charging port.

Simon_Mao · 2019-03-09T05:13:20.000Z

adam7027:

Simon Mao:

To: sochi111

following one will be available in one week

max output 2500mA
0.1%moonlight-3%low-30%mid-100%high ,strobe(double-click the switch); if the flashlight is turned off ,press the side switch,flashlight can enter into moonlight mode directly.

Congratulations Simon on the first Convoy headlamp :partying_face:

I will probably have a few questions, if they are not already asked by other members

EDIT:

I already have them (questions, suggestions, requests mixed):

Simon Mao:

it’s too compact to modify it ,but i can supply special version according to BLFers’ requirements

- Currently I don’t know, how the headlamp driver works, only the available modes in the UI. Is the headlamp driver is a buck driver (which converts down from 4.2-3.0V of the battery to the voltage required by the LED, without burning off the excess voltage), so it could be also very good at using low forward voltage LEDs for a prolonged time in low to medium modes? Or that driver works similarly (or identically) to the 7135×N (N: 3,4,6,8) drivers?

- To get the most potential out of this headlamp, access to the LED and optics should be relatively easy (preferably, if a driver would need a replacement in the future, that should be also possible).

- I think, support for TIR lens would be essential for this headlamp, as this can give a great customizability over the form of the light beam - my suggestion would be to support the d=20mm h=12.8mm Yajiamei TIR lens, as they offer a wide range of options.

- A few members already mentioned 18350 tubes. I think, if this headlamp would have 18350 tube as well, it could be a great gift for women - especially, if there will be a few more alternative color for the body (I think, the same red anodization as the S2+ bodies, and the clear anodization variant could be a good starting point).

- I would like to share suggestions about UI for the driver, if you would like to consider them

1.just similar to 7135*N
2.sorry ,the lens is not suitable,i will launch another lens version\
3.yes,i plan to produce 18350 tube and red anodization can be made in the future

Simon_Mao · 2019-03-09T05:17:27.000Z

7YP160214:

What about a strap for the headlamp? Will one be included or will it be sold as a just a right angle light?

no lanyard hole,
of cause i can add some if buyers need it

oweban · 2019-03-09T05:56:53.000Z

Simon, you’re absolutely incredible - I love how you take on all the feedback from the community. Definitely a very good way to keep a loyal customer base

I might wait for an updated H1 with the new UI, but will be placing another order as soon as the S11 drops

maukka · 2019-03-09T06:02:09.000Z

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

They have visible PWM on moonlight and all the other modes use a wrong PWM frequency as well. This also makes the configuration mode advance way too fast and have too fast a strobe.

[Album] Convoy C8+

Also, the tint on those emitters is pretty bad. Worst 219C I have personally seen with a duv of 0.0075 on one and 0.0049 on the other. The focus of the reflector is also very different on my two samples.

Any of this doesn’t matter to me personally since these are just going to be a throwier light for calibration of spheres, but someone who actually uses them might not like what they see.

Clayman83 · 2019-03-09T06:11:02.000Z

Well, I think that the next version of H1 whith suggested UI, proper modes, tir-compatible,18350 tube, possibility to change Led and charging port will be just awesome. It will be a new Zl killer:)

ToyKeeper · 2019-03-09T06:14:14.000Z

maukka:

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

Maukka measured the PWM speed on each mode:

2.25 kHz moon
17.9 kHz low
36 kHz all other modes

The 36 kHz speed means the driver was flashed with the wrong fuse values.

The 2.25 kHz moon means the driver has a very old version of the firmware on it, from 2016, calibrated for nanjg 105d drivers which were never actually used. This was fixed two years ago, along with some other issues.

If at all possible, I would strongly recommend updating to a newer type of driver, perhaps one with two power channels and an attiny25v or attiny85v chip. This would improve performance and allow for a nicer UI. If not though, it would be a good idea to at least update the firmware on the existing drivers.

Simon_Mao · 2019-03-09T07:48:11.000Z

ToyKeeper:

maukka:

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

Maukka measured the PWM speed on each mode:

2.25 kHz moon

17.9 kHz low

36 kHz all other modes

The 36 kHz speed means the driver was flashed with the wrong fuse values.

The 2.25 kHz moon means the driver has a very old version of the firmware on it, from 2016, calibrated for nanjg 105d drivers which were never actually used. This was fixed two years ago, along with some other issues.

If at all possible, I would strongly recommend updating to a newer type of driver, perhaps one with two power channels and an attiny25v or attiny85v chip. This would improve performance and allow for a nicer UI. If not though, it would be a good idea to at least update the firmware on the existing drivers.

So much thanks ,Ms Tk ,i will send these data to driver manufacturer

Boaz · 2019-03-09T07:53:28.000Z

Marc E:

Lightbringer:

Poor Simon… Everyone wants knurling, and no knurling. USB charging and no USB charging. Metal button and rubber button. X and not X. Y and not Y. Z and not Z. I think I’d just grab a coupla beers and slide down the emergency chute…

That’s only 64 different configs so offer them all, i don’t see what the problem is. The easy way out is to just offer the best light ever. I’d buy that, the best light ever (as long as it can take a 21700). Oh wait, you missed battery options, that’s 192 different configs… still doable imio. (On a slightly more serious note i’m tempted by the S11 and am looking forward to the 21700 S2+, definitely going to get a couple of them.)

Fastech and Convoy made this combo work and it made convoy a huge success here because it basically let people buy pre-made custom lights .two things that slipped over time has been the better tint options ...and better ano colors . The red green purple blue copper etc were a waste of time imho. The Sand is epic and the new designs are very nice . love the C8 and the S11 Glad to see Simon here and hope he can filter thru all the noise .

Simon_Mao · 2019-03-09T08:05:41.000Z

maukka:

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

They have visible PWM on moonlight and all the other modes use a wrong PWM frequency as well. This also makes the configuration mode advance way too fast and have too fast a strobe.

https://imgur.com/a/XqfMM4f

Also, the tint on those emitters is pretty bad. Worst 219C I have personally seen with a duv of 0.0075 on one and 0.0049 on the other. The focus of the reflector is also very different on my two samples.

Any of this doesn’t matter to me personally since these are just going to be a throwier light for calibration of spheres, but someone who actually uses them might not like what they see.

thanks for you data,manufacturer told me that he use ATTINY13A,
he will try 25V,

is it possible to test one more time if you remove the ar-coated glass lens?

and what is the full name of Duv? i want to learn more

ToyKeeper · 2019-03-09T09:02:34.000Z

Simon Mao:

i will send these data to driver manufacturer

manufacturer told me that he use ATTINY13A,
he will try 25V,

I don’t know the details of your situation or your manufacturer, but if you would like newer or nicer drivers, we can probably arrange something. BLF’s two-channel design works well and provides a wide range of output. It could be FET+AMC7135 or 7x7135+1x7135, or it could even use FET+7+1. It depends on how high the high modes should go.

For clicky-switch lights, people seem to like Bistro, Crescendo, and gchart’s ramping UI.

For e-switch lights, if you use an attiny85v MCU, it could run any UI in the FSM suite. The most popular one is Anduril, but it’s also easy to make new UIs. It could be anything you like.

The new Convoy headlamp looks very nice. Depending on your needs and your driver, the headlamp might be a good place to try FSM.

Anyway, there are many possibilities. We should talk in a private message or email if you are interested in trying something new.

TheOnlyDocc · 2019-03-09T10:01:15.000Z

for the H1.
Looks nice. But i hope you will work something out with ToyKeeper.
Would be really nice to see a attiny85v based driver with Anduril!
@Simon Mao
Do you have more information on the frosted lens (light transmittance . . .)?

skinny_tie · 2019-03-09T10:55:09.000Z

ToyKeeper:

Simon Mao:

i will send these data to driver manufacturer

manufacturer told me that he use ATTINY13A,
he will try 25V,

I don’t know the details of your situation or your manufacturer, but if you would like newer or nicer drivers, we can probably arrange something. BLF’s two-channel design works well and provides a wide range of output. It could be FET+AMC7135 or 7x7135+1x7135, or it could even use FET+7+1. It depends on how high the high modes should go.

For clicky-switch lights, people seem to like Bistro, Crescendo, and gchart’s ramping UI.

For e-switch lights, if you use an attiny85v MCU, it could run any UI in the FSM suite. The most popular one is Anduril, but it’s also easy to make new UIs. It could be anything you like.

The new Convoy headlamp looks very nice. Depending on your needs and your driver, the headlamp might be a good place to try FSM.

Anyway, there are many possibilities. We should talk in a private message or email if you are interested in trying something new.

Using ToyKeeper’s firmware (either Bistro or something FSM-based) in the new models would give them some of the best UIs available and a huge advantage over the competition (at least those that aren’t also using TK’s firmware). A triple-channel driver at a convoy price would be great too.

ToyKeeper · 2019-03-09T11:39:59.000Z

skinny_tie:

Using ToyKeeper’s firmware (either Bistro or something FSM-based) …

FWIW, the S2+ and C8 already use Biscotti, which is a slimmed-down copy of Bistro. But there were some issues and miscommunications back in 2016, so some buggy drivers were produced. I thought that had all been straightened out long ago, but maukka got an affected light just this week… so I guess not. I’m hoping we can find a way to finally resolve everything. … and if possible, it’d be nice to do some upgrades too.

djozz · 2019-03-09T12:25:39.000Z

some buggy drivers were produced

Not some. I have bought a few Convoy lights over the last years and have not seen a “fixed” biscotti driver in any of them, i.e. the desert tan S2+ that came out more than 1.5 years after the bug was discovered did not have a fixed driver.

Unfortunayely however fantastic the Convoy flashlights are (I’m a huge fan of them), it seems that Simon’s expertise and his interest is not the driver and that is a real drawback. He is offered help from BLF, you were doing a great job helping him with biscotti TK, but then he does not recognise the problems with the wrong fuse in the thousands of lights that he sells and moreover does nothing to fix it but decides that the drivers work good enough with the bug (IMO they don’t)

Ryzbor · 2019-03-09T12:32:53.000Z

This should work good with eliminating the donut hole in OP/SMO reflectors with leds like the Luxeon MZ or a Nichia E21 quad . Very exited. But it looks heavily frosted compared to the Zebralight lenses, I don’t know if this is on purpose.

@Simon if you have the chance to buy 3500K SST-20 emitters, certainly do it. From what I recall they have a rosy tint, combined with the not overly warm (white is still mostly white) CCT and high CRI and R9 this led could have a 219B light quality.

Convoy lights are mostly used by non-flashoholic people or muggles, however you want to call them, so the UI should be simple, Anduril would we way over the top. However I would love to see a Andurill “Lite”, scaled down to the simplicity of the RampingIosV2 but remaining the advantages it has over it.

djozz · 2019-03-09T13:36:47.000Z

If you remove the throw with a frosted lens, you also don’t need a 40mm reflector, the beam will be the same from a much smaller S2+ with a frosted lens. Only in specific illumination it is still handy because the shadows that this light casts are a bit softer than from a narrower light source.

TheOnlyDocc · 2019-03-09T13:52:48.000Z

@djozz
Could the frosted lens help to smooth the artifacts from a 3V XHP50?

Convoylover · 2019-03-09T14:16:40.000Z

djozz:

some buggy drivers were produced

Not some. I have bought a few Convoy lights over the last years and have not seen a “fixed” biscotti driver in any of them, i.e. the desert tan S2+ that came out more than 1.5 years after the bug was discovered did not have a fixed driver.

Unfortunayely however fantastic the Convoy flashlights are (I’m a huge fan of them), it seems that Simon’s expertise and his interest is not the driver and that is a real drawback. He is offered help from BLF, you were doing a great job helping him with biscotti TK, but then he does not recognise the problems with the wrong fuse in the thousands of lights that he sells and moreover does nothing to fix it but decides that the drivers work good enough with the bug (IMO they don’t)

I’ve bought some S2+ which did have an improved Biscotti driver (slower flashes when in config mode), so something was improved! I don’t need all the complicated settings, so I often bought the simpler 3/5 mode drivers, which have one big disadvantage: the audible squeal. It should have a higher PWM frequency, or twice as low! Now it resonates in the springs…