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1 degree TIR… glad I didn’t pull the trigger on the M21H yet, I wanna see what this sucker will do with SFT-25R!

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Edit: “flashlight sample with 56mm TIR 1degree , SFT-25R , 8A driver”

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I need it. What host was that? Or is that the new side-switch L21B?

M21K with 3X21D head design?

3x21D’s head is much larger.

What LED is this?

Apparently those 1 degree lens were designed for either SFT-25R or LMP Q5 so probably one of them.

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Wait, wasn’t it M21K?

Yes, it’s specifically for the 14500 format. I wondered if the height and diameter information had been published

Definitely not, M21K is shorter. It’s also too small just 5mm outer diameter meanwhile new lens are 56mm.

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@bugme143 , @MineHack7488 , @mcjtom
Sorry I didn’t specify this earlier:
“flashlight sample with 56mm TIR 1degree , SFT-25R , 8A driver”

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Might collect a bit more light than the Z1 does, but I’m curious how the two will compare with the same emitter. I’d be more excited if the 1 degree tir works with an SFT-42R / F45R. I think the Thermals in a light like that one shown above will outperform the Z1.

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The new light will beat the hell out of the Z1 in both output and throw.

On throw mode the Z1 only collects half of the LED’s emission, while a TIR can collect 100%. The Z1 has a 40mm lens against a 56mm TIR, which should almost double the intensity. The Z1 throws a hair under the M21A/C8, while the 56mm TIR rivals the L21B reflector.

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Don’t suppose you know the general size of the host? If it’s M21H size I’ll hold off, but if it’s different I may buy one of each.

I don’t. But it got to be bigger than M21K.

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M21H uses 35mm lens, M21K - 50mm and those new lens are 56mm. That’s around L21B when it comes to size.

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Huh, basically the same as the IF22A. I thought it was a 40mm but I must be getting that confused with something else.

Dope, thanks. Gonna hold off and wait for the drop, then!

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Upcoming e-switch L21 variant maybe?

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Yup, I’m pretty sure you can use IF22A lens in the M21H.

With TIR lens inside? I doubt it, it looks different than Simon’s render of the L21C.

this convoy , size like … skilhunt h200 )))) or another L form fleshligt 18650