I basically had the same experience. 1st shot no big deal, just a sore arm. 2nd shot I had flu like symptoms starting in the evening but fortunately went away the next day. And my wife also only had a sore arm for a few days 
My wife and I got the Moderna shot today. Very well run clinic. In and out in no time. I read today we are reaching a point where we will soon have more doses than willing people to get them. No where close to herd immunity yet so not good.
When I got my Moderna vaccine yesterday, it took at least half an hour of waiting before I got the shot.
The facility was packed full of people waiting in line.
The good news is that I still haven't had any side effects.
(We'll see if I'm so lucky with my second dose.)
Not good for a second reason too: the rest of the world is desperate for those vaccines 
I hope that with the first world using less and less vaccines in a few months time, the production stays in place or even ramps up to vaccinate all the less rich countries, and fast enough to force the remaining pool of coronavirus to become so small that new variants stop emerging. That is decent and to our advantage too.
One of my adult daughters and her husband, got the J&J vaccine yesterday.
10 minutes later, my daughter fainted. She recovered fine, paramedics informed her they see 1 out of 200 faint. No other side effects.
This was a location in San Francisco that treats 8000!!! people a day. They see one person faint every 45 minutes, from the J&J vaccine.
I got the J&J vaccine a month ago, no side effects at all.
I think this is the latest (March 22) what is known about the use of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19:
What is concluded is that with the often limited or poorly performed trials sofar no positive effect is proven, and therefore for the EMA there is no reason to approve ivermectin for use on COVID19. It is a matter of waiting for a good trial for a definite conclusion, but personally I have no high hopes for this one.
So today a friend told me that a person we both knew has died from Covid. Did not believe covid was a real threat. Did not wear a mask unless absolutely forced to, did not want a vaccine, etc. Sadly his wife and part of his family are also covid deniers.
You mean he died of a heart-attack, while having flu, covid or whatever?
Seriously, people should start realising that covid is not the only cause of death.
I live in a relatively small village and so far I haven’t noticed more deaths overall. But I noticed that the few deaths that did occur - all were attributed to covid
True!
You know what else is true? If many people didn’t get infected, they would probably still be alive, even with underlying conditions!…
In the USA, Covid-19 is listed as the cause of death only when it is the cause of death. The SARS-Covid-2 virus can be the cause of death in patients with other existing medical conditions and diseases. If the virus precipitated the death, either by exacerbating another existing medical condition that is independent of the virus infection, or by causing any number of the many health problems caused by the virus alone, the virus is listed as the cause of death. If the virus did not precipitate the death, but the death occurred when it occurred due to another health condition in someone who also happened to be infected with the virus at that time, the death is not counted as a Covid-19 death.
The process is confusing to many people in the general public because: 1) Covid-19 causes a wide variety of health problems that doctors have only gradually come to realize are caused by the virus; 2) many people are listed as dying of a heart attack, or cancer, or another non-Covid-19 medical condition in many cases where they were infected by SARS-Covid-2 and actually died of complications from Covid-19, but were not tested and are not even aware they are infected with the virus (a test is most-often not done in these cases, leading to an undercounting of the number of people who died of Covid-19); and 3) many people, even medical experts and authority figures, are promoting misleading information about how the Covid-19 death numbers are counted (example: Dr. Deborah Birx made such a comment).
What’s the point of this? I can OD or poison myself on any OTC medication/supplement or food or heck even water if it’s consumed improperly. This is like saying ‘don’t drink water’ because the ‘FDA has knowledge of people dying from improper water consumption’.
I beg anyone who may have read the linked article on the FDAs own website to re-read it with a critical eye. This excerpt in particular
Do you see anything dishonest about this? Manipulative maybe? Can clinical trials not cause harm? Does the word ‘can’ [cause harm] mean ‘will’? Does the existence of incidents where people misuse a drug make the drug unsafe? Also, did these people die who took ivermectin improperly? If they took human formulation ivermectin in the same dose, would there be an issue? Has no-one needed medical support from the vaccines yet? Notice they only mention the veterinary use of the drug in this paragraph and not the human applications — how do you think this influences your perception before [maybe] reading on?
In a world were it’s a comfortable truth that a miracle vaccine was developed for a novel coronavirus and it was tested 95%+ efficacious in a few months and mass produced and distributed as early as 9 months after the world acknowledged the virus, how is simultaneously unbelievable to think that there is at least ONE other way to help treat the disease ?
Nobody, and I mean absolutely nobody knows the long term risks and effects of any of these vaccines. The vaccine also does nothing for somebody critically ill from the virus.
But here we are 6+ months past the time that Ivermectin had enough real-world data that a relatively small group of doctors and practitioners was able to release a emergency use guidance that has gotten support from many places around the world yet there hasn’t been an approved clinical trial performed thus far. Really?
I ask what it might mean if a cheap-safe-and-effective prevention and/or treatment was validated to those that are pumping around trillions of dollars and endless surveillance and control laws all on the tab of C19?
Another question I ask is why anyone is afraid of a drug that has been in use since 1981 with millions of data points and is PROVEN safe, yet people are knocking down doors to get in line for a <1 year old, never before approved RNA vaccine? If it’s not fear, then why shut down other ideas?
How many people do you actually think compose these ‘larger government bodies’? Are any of these guidelines not technically ‘statements perpetuated by a few?’ Or are we talking about the number of dollars rather than the number of qualified personnel?
I cannot answer any of those questions, for you.
If and when my doctor or Health Department notifies me that Ivermectin, Chloroquine, Massive doses of Vitamin D, Meditation, Red Light Therapy, or any other promising alternative treatment has been approved, I will be happy to consider the option.
Corona has taught me that different people have different comfort zones regarding all aspects of pandemic responses… I cannot begin to tell others how to take care of themselves. I have to follow my own comfort zone, and they do too. I dont expect what works for me, to work for everyone. And Im not going to try to change peoples minds.
Some are deniers, some are argumentative, some follow medical advice, some prefer to follow alternative health options…
Do whatever makes you comfortable, and I will do the same.
No response merited.
Family COVID:
- I got it (3 days in the hospital)
- my older sister had it
- my older sister's husband had it
- my 2nd sister had it (in the hospital, 5 day remdesivir treatment)
- my brother-n-law had it
- my brother-n-law's wife had it
- my brother-n-law's wife's mother had it
- my older sister's son and wife had it
- my 2nd sister's daughter and husband had it
- my older sister's son-n-law had it
My wife, our 2 daughters, son-n-law, and their 2 daughters did not get it so my immediate family has been mostly spared.
I know there's a few missing here that got it, like nephew's daughter, etc., but the point is most of my extended family got it, yet the county most of us live in is rated at ~12%.
At work, it's been rampant, probably where I caught it. They've had a dozen at a time get it, shut down the buildings for periods, and know we are on "Essential Workers Only" status. In my immediate group of 5 people, 4 of 5 got it. I don't know all that got it because the company doesn't say, but seems like about 25% to 40%, maybe more, got it.
The secretary to the president at the company for like 20-25 years, she retired about 2 years ago. Her husband died from it, her son died, from it, and she got a serious case but is still fighting.
This all is in the same county I live but 25 miles away.
Here is some rather good news, a pretty well done study (although not peer-reviwed yet) was done on budesonide, an asthma drug that is inhaled, as a treatment for people with COVID-19 who have an underlying condition. The drug keeps some people out of hospital, and shortens the disease by on average a few days. The gains are not dramatic but significant, and the drug is cheap and has little side-effects.
I am also not telling anyone what to do or how to feel. I am asking questions to hopefully spark additional critical thinking and evaluation of the information that exists, or sometimes more importantly doesn’t exist.
The questions I asked in response to your post are not personal attacks. I respect you, and hope to receive the same.
I truly did not see any point the FDA article made except that 1) The FDA never ran clinical trials on Ivermectin for C19 treatment 2) Ivermectin is used in animals and humans, and there are a handful of conditions it’s approved to treat/cure ranging from rosacea and parasites 3) taking medications not intended for humans poses a health risk.
My interpretation of a comment/response to the OPs topic that was just this article led me to assume that this is supposed to be a case-closed denial of the FLCCC and their work fighting C19 with many treatments that also include Ivermectin as a key component. I feel if someone would actually spend time to research the group of doctors and the see the thoroughness of their treatment protocols, they wouldn’t reply with the FDAs sidestep of the topic.
Yup, some people just have to downplay COVID-19 every chance they can.
There's no use reasoning with them either.
Thing is, I’m a biologist and I actually could dig in and read most of the articles about testing new treatments, understand what they were doing and find out what is promising and what is not.
But I don’t have to because there are people at the EMA who are better in this stuff than me and whose job it is to screen through all the new treatments and find which ones to approve. And I trust them to do their job well, so if they report that thusfar the ivermectin trials reports are not convincing enough so say that the stuff works I simply believe what they are saying, they for sure know better than me.