Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

[pennzy]

I live 2.5 hours outside NYC and the influx of people moving in has the local real estate market going bonkers.

[raccoon]

Lots of people from the L.A. area are moving to the Coachella Valley.

It's more spread out here and it's cheaper to live here even though home prices are going up.

The weather is nicer there, but I do like how our area isn't nearly as crowded.

[Katherine_Alicia]

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@Lightbringer

None of the studies supported his claims.

None.

Vitamin C does not prevent or cure the common cold. It does not prevent or cure cancer. It does not prevent or cure AIDS.

There is currently no evidence to support the claim that it has a significant effect on SARS-CoV-2.

And nor should it!
because it`s only Part of the story, it`s like saying petrol (gasoline) will get you from A to B, well it`ll Help if you have the rest of the car/vehocle. but without it the statement`s ridiculous.
our Main defence other than white blood cells is Glutathione, it`s the most powerful antioxident we produce (many time more powerful and effective than Vit C) so much so that it can De-oxidise used Vit C and make it viable again! it`s a Sulpher based organic compound that our body makes, it is Supported by vit C intake sure, as well as Vit E Selenium and a whole host of other things (like the rest of the car).
but to think Vit C and and maybe D or Zinc or Iodine or whatever will single handedly or in combination fix the covid then you`re dreaming!
Even Glutathione our most powerful weapon against it (next to our white bood cells) won`t fix it, but merely limit the amount of damage it can do and speed up repair (that`s its job).
I (and probably millions of others) Wish there were a simple OTC item(s) that we could take to make ourselves safe, but there isn`t, there`s no shortcuts to this, anymore than we can control the common cold

and for the record before anyone thinks I`m bashing these things, I take Vit C and a load of other things daily and have done for years (for different reasons) and I know they work, but I`m also aware of their limitations too, it`s good, but it`s no cure for the covid!

[Joshk]

Woh, woh, let’s not pester Thunderay with science and history lessons. Clearly he has seen the Great Truth. Let me help them.

Should Thunderay (or anyone that agrees with him) find themselves in an ICU dying of Covid, just PM me here on BLF. I will dispatch all the oranges from my fruit bowl to save your life. Upon receiving the contraban, please immediately sign over all your worldly possessions to me. It’s a small price to pay for the gift of life. When messaging me about this miracle cure, we should use a code to protect ourselves from Them. Please use the code donatemybodytoscience.

[MtnDon (Don Miller)]

Oh please let me join in too… Smith’s delivered a bag of oranges two days ago. Lots left. I will donate too.

@Joshk

Woh, woh, let’s not pester Thunderay with science and history lessons. Clearly he has seen the Great Truth. Let me help them.

Should Thunderay (or anyone that agrees with him) find themselves in an ICU dying of Covid, just PM me here on BLF. I will dispatch all the oranges from my fruit bowl to save your life. Upon receiving the contraban, please immediately sign over all your worldly possessions to me. It’s a small price to pay for the gift of life. When messaging me about this miracle cure, we should use a code to protect ourselves from Them. Please use the code donatemybodytoscience.

[Katherine_Alicia]

in the interest of Science again, Oranges aren`t all that rich in Vit C at all, Bell peppers or Kiwi fruit are much better

[MtnDon (Don Miller)]

I have bell peppers too; an orange one and a green one.

[pennzy]

I’m all for eating healthy and staying in shape. No doubt it helps to ward off ailments. Just don’t think it will cure a virus. Vitamin C did cure scurvy though.

Limey | A Moment of Science - Indiana Public Media.

“By the mid-1800’s limes were cheaper than lemons, so lime juice was used instead. The British sailors became lime-juicers, then limeys. Today we’d say the British sailors were getting from the fruit juice was vitamin C. For a while, vitamin C was called the antiscorbutic substance because it prevented scurvy.”

[Katherine_Alicia]

the Orange one will also contain Lycopene, which is very good for you (still won`t fix the covid though! LOL).

[Serlite]

Huh! I never knew bell peppers were such a good source of Vitamin C. I should add more of them to my diet!
If you’re on a budget, there’s also the time-honoured pine needle tea. (Just make sure you don’t use one of the toxic variants of pines.)

[Thunderay]

I have a confession to make… I just… sneezed… I think I got the rona virus from reading some of the “enlightening” comments in this thread

[hank]

How is the vaccine’s efficiency determined?

Coronavirus

EXCERPT

Realistically, the most expedient way to collect efficacy data would be to vaccinate people who are going to keep exposing themselves to the virus as if it didn’t exist. Unfortunately, people who would behave like that are also unlikely to participate in a vaccine trial. So since the trial volunteers don’t have the benefit of knowing how protective the vaccine will be, they go about their lives and don’t necessarily go out of their way to catch the virus, placing themselves at unnecessary risk of serious illness and death. So then if you are running the trial, you just have to wait…and wait…and wait. And then at some point, you have enough people that have caught the virus and you can measure efficacy by comparing the stats on the people who received the vaccine and the people who got the placebo…
…
… For the Pfizer vaccine, the trial enrolled 43,538 participants. Their analysis evaluated 94 confirmed cases of COVID-19 among trial participants, 85 of whom had received the placebo (85 infected placebo volunteers / 94 total infected volunteers = 90.42% efficacy).

Now, it’s important to realize that these are interim results. They are among the earliest results that could be shared with the public with any measure of confidence. The trials will continue to collect data that takes longer to collect (a sufficiently large number of infected volunteers for improved statistics, long-term efficacy data, data on adverse effects). So these trials are not over. Volunteers will be followed up for a couple of years. That’s just how vaccine trials work. But the interim results are sufficient, in the estimation of the vaccine developers, to share with the public and, potentially, so that they can seek early FDA approval given the seriousness of the pandemic….

[pennzy]

Want the grocery store isle all to yourself? Sneeze.

[jp9mm]

@pennzy

Want the grocery store isle all to yourself? Sneeze.

I usually have 3-4 in a row

[hank]

Alas.

Hospitalizations set new record as U.S. toll nears 250,000

An Ohio wedding left dozens with the coronavirus, including the bride and groom: ‘It starts to take a toll on you’
By Andrea Salcedo

When Mikayla Bishop began walking down the aisle in October, the bride immediately noticed that even though she had provided masks, almost no one was wearing one.

Now, more than two weeks later, she said, 32 of the 83 guests at her Cincinnati-area wedding have tested positive for the coronavirus, including three of the couples’ grandparents. Bishop and her husband, Anthony, also contracted the virus.

Even with the lack of masks and the warnings from experts about the dangers of large indoor gatherings like their wedding, she said the couple was shocked by the fallout….

[hank]

A scientist’s viral tweet called Elon Musk ‘Space Karen’ — as a way to defend...

“Rapid antigen tests trade sensitivity for speed. They return a result in [less than] 30 minutes, but can only detect COVID-19 when you’re absolutely riddled with it….”

[Lightbringer]

@NorthernHarrier

Where did I demand an unlimited amount of proof that will never be enough? Google “reductio ad absurdum argument.”

It happened right here. No idea who did it or what was being debated (don’t really care, either), but someone trots out a study/paper/whatever, and someone else starts poking holes in it, the authors, etc. “The sample size was too small.” “It wasn’t a double-blind study.” “The study author beats his wife and hates cats.” Whatever.

@NorthernHarrier

There’s a reason the US Federal Trade Commission requires multiple competent and reliable scientific studies to substantiate health claims in advertising: because that’s the standard that people with knowledge and experience in the relevant fields say is necessary to show that a product actually has an effect on a particular disease or health condition.

Everyone is free to believe whatever they wish to believe, at least in the US. But that’s not the same as saying that something has been proven to provide x, y, or z benefit.

Okay, riddle me this, Bat Man… Who would fund a study to show that, say, echinacea boosts the immune system? Or vitamin C? Or anything that doesn’t have patent protection?

There’ve been studies (funded by pharmcos) intended to destroy echinacea, using parts of the plant (stems and roots, I think) that had the least amount of whatever’s the good stuff in the plant. But unless one of those pharmcos can use echinacea and patent the process to keep anyone else from $elling it, they won’t fund any study that shows it has any benefits at all.

Let someone else play that game of endless proof (hey, some people are like a dog with a chew-rag that they Just Won’t Let Go), but I wouldn’t play it.

[Lightbringer]

@pennzy

Want the grocery store isle all to yourself? Sneeze.

It’s a lot easier to fake a sneeze than to fake a stinkyfart. Especially on command.

Both work, incidentally.

Ooh, maybe a spray-can of some mercaptan. Make it a good cabbagefart or broccolifart…

[pennzy]

@Lightbringer

@pennzy

Want the grocery store isle all to yourself? Sneeze.

It’s a lot easier to fake a sneeze than to fake a stinkyfart. Especially on command.

Both work, incidentally.

Ooh, maybe a spray-can of some mercaptan. Make it a good cabbagefart or broccolifart…

First off, thanks for not bringing up my spelling as I just realised isle should have been aisle.

Second, and I am repeating myself but ” I use to sneeze to cover a fart, now I fart to cover my sneeze”.

And is it realize or realise?

Ah F it. Everyone is used to my spelling by now.

[Unheard]

@Lightbringer

Okay, riddle me this, Bat Man… Who would fund a study to show that, say, echinacea boosts the immune system? Or vitamin C? Or anything that doesn’t have patent protection?

Science funded by public money. Medical universities. Some countries still support independent research.