Dear Chinese Flashlight manufacturers...

Dear Chinese Flashlight manufacturers,

Please stop including flashing modes and make ‘low’ lower.

Yours Sincerely,

Everybody

Anodized threads too.

Somebody that’s not included in the Everybody grouping that is expressing a love for flashing modes.
They have their use and just because they’re not of use to you, does not mean others don’t want them.

I agree, flashing can become a beacon that save your life if your are lost or trapped somewhere. Although it is indeed annoying in everyday use.

No one wants them ....

anyone who does has a hundred billion pieces of garbage to chose from ...

Lets make the next ten years flashy-free

this ain't no disco

Thank you for inferring that I’ve no value whatsoever :slight_smile:

Next time, please consider your comments and how they may offend, as funnily enough there no doubt are features you like in items we share an interest in that I think are futile.

Low lows are pretty useless for me, I can’t even see the ground with them on a dark night. I don’t see the point in any lower.

I hate strobe and SOS but lots of people like it and think its necessary.

No more “next mode memory,” that is the main thing. I know of not ONE person who likes it.

Yes, next mode is junk. Flashies are ok but I prefer them hidden somehow.

Yeah, it’s not that of a problem if memory resets in few seconds.
But ideal is good memory with Hi-Low-Glow of course. You have plenty of time for blinking manually if you are in need of help. Hidden SOS after 2 cycles is optional.
Also the function when flashlight turns off after use instead of cycling through all modes is the best solution for electronic switches.

  • me.

Anyone think they will actually read this? And if they do, think they will actually listen?

There have been lots of threads like this one...

Probably not. Simon claims to be the manufacturer of Convoy lights and is a member here, but even he doesn't seem to be listening to complaints about battery tubes that are too short.

Well, since we are going to all put our opinions up, my pet peeve is PWM. Some are nauseating and some you hardly know are there: there is probably a range of frequencies to avoid, which could easily be learned and avoided, but isn’t for some strange reason.

I don’t see low low or no flashies as a good thing for the strong majority of people, and if you feel this way, you are most probably a fraction of the already tiny group of flashoholics, so why wouldnt you just get a small edc like Zebralight anyways with lots of modes? I use low relatively frequently in both my single cell lights and my big multi-emitters and I see a need for a low low maybe once per year. So a light that goes high/med/lowlow would cut its usefulness by a lot and I’d rather have low pretty much where it is, so hands off my low mode! Unless its an additional 4th light mode, it would take away a very useable low and in that case, I’d still probably rather have another medium-low mode or medium-high mode. The 4th light mode would cause a deletion of one of the flashy modes anyways, and I see strong reasons to keep both the annoying flashies. I dont ride bikes, but I still accept that flashy is very useful for bikers or auto problems, and I see SOS is even more rarely used but if you ever need it, its worth so much to have in such a circumstance that you couldnt purchase the light (could be your life on the line), so flashy modes I’d prefer to be there, but hidden. But who’s listening here anyways?

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-I don’t quite understand the low-low mode thing. My Trustfire X9 has a fairly dim ‘low’ that isn’t much help when walking the dog at night, and the medium doesn’t render one blind indoors either. I mean, what is the purpose of a low-low mode? Reading at night or looking at a map in one’s car? I thought that was what the AA/AAA/single-CR123 lights were for.

-From the standpoint of a ‘One torch to rule them all and in the darkness find them’ philosophy I might see it but that’s in the same vein as modifying a Prius to do an 11 second 1/4-mile and still preserve it’s fuel economy. If you need a dim light then carry a dim light, alot of them are small enough to not weigh more than one’s keys.

-And I like the blinkies. Strobe drives the dogs nuts and can be useful for signaling/warning as B42 mentioned, even if there is dispute as to the defensive advantage of strobe. SOS is useful too as it provides a near-universal distress message automatically. I’m lost as to why there is the animosity of them being present. It’s two more times you have to move your thumb 1/8” to get from low to high. If you, or someone you regularly come into contact with has epilepsy then I can understand. But otherwise it seems just a pet peeve to me.

i am. not sure china is.

this is probably what they hear

Sounds like more people need to learn to mod……then you can have exactly what you like.

I like all these new flashlights that are coming out. But when people say ‘Chinese’ most of the time they mean budget Chinese. There’s some higher end Chinese brands like Sunwayman, Solarforce, Nitecore, EagleTac, Fenix, etc. that are giving large swaths of the community exactly what they want.

As far as the budget ones go, yeah, I have some gripes myself. I don’t know if I can purchase one more light with the exact same 5 mode, inefficient, low-frequency PWM drivers they’ve been putting out the last few years. Low~~Med~~>High->Strobe-SOS. I don’t mind the disco modes if they are tucked out of the way, but I absolutely will not be forced to cycle through them to get back to low. The only cheap-cheap lights I buy off the shelf now are single modes. I’m also tired of the market being flooded by so many versions of the same models that it takes a major collaboration effort of a community like this just to sort through the fakes and sub-standard versions. The first 100 people buy it and get the constant current driver, the next 100 people get PWM snuck in to save 2 cents on each unit, and the next 100 people get plastic lenses, and the next people get plastic reflectors, and so on, until the model is ruined, then they move on to the next model to water down.

If only I could mod a few extra millimeters onto a battery tube (looking at you Convoy) or anodize the tail cap threads. I haven't learned those tricks yet.

the quest for the perfect flashlight proceeds on…